not ruger, what did i do?

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i have a ruger lcr 9mm, its my only handgun and my wife gave me some money yesterday and told me to go shopping :D i was gonna get another lcr 9mm, don't know why i like two of the same gun but that's the way i am i guess. the shops had no lcr's and to order a 9mm the price has went up, i gave a little over $440 just before Christmas now all the shops want $519 or more + tax. so i looked around and somehow came away with a 22lr/22mag black widow, it wasn't bad i thought at $360 otd with 6 boxes of cci 22mag ammo and 1 bulk box of federal 22lr. 1st question is who owns one and how are they? second are they lower profile sights than whats on it? couldn't get a pic as my camera is not working but here is the pic from the web site. thanks




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I have one, which I purchased after reading some impressive accuracy claims about the base model mini revolvers that don't have rear sights at all.

How are they? They are like a trained chicken.

https://youtu.be/xSgFDxMKoH0

Pretty much a constant source of puzzled "huh"s from, well, just about everyone. But people who have owned chickens recognize that yes there is probably something special being shown. Still...huh.

I keep waiting for an opportunity to whip mine out and shoot a rabbit for dinner, but I'm not holding my breath. :)


The sights in your picture look taller/higher profile than the sights on my revolver.
 
i have looked online but haven't found any place that sell low profile sights. i can't find them on the N.A. arms website either, will call tomorrow.
 
mine are adjustable windage only, there is an allen wrench with the gun that loosens a screw on the front and rear sight and they can be moved left-right. i hope i can find some smaller sights.
 
Just remember how much juice you give up out of a short barrel like that, for the most part 22lr handguns are nothing more than a toy if you ask me. You can only shoot real small animals, as you lose expansion and all the good stuff you need to kill cleanly.
But if you want a toy, NAA makes a nice little toy! Well made, nice look, not a lot of change out of your pocket for it either. I hear with the smaller grips they're hard to handle, but with the bigger folding grip I don't mind 'em.
 
thewillweeks said:
Just remember how much juice you give up out of a short barrel like that, for the most part 22lr handguns are nothing more than a toy if you ask me. You can only shoot real small animals, as you lose expansion and all the good stuff you need to kill cleanly.
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I think it is wrong to imply that if a firearm isn't optimized as a combat weapon it isn't a useful tool.

They can be used to kill small animals but they can also be used for target practice, slaughtering farm animals, whatever fishermen use tacklebox guns for, and anything else that a 2" barrel .22 magnum or LR can be used for. No different than a J-Frame, sp-101, lcr, etc..
 
Shot one today. What is it, roughly a 20lb trigger? I know deliberately pull, but jesus. Shot better than I thought it would. Kinda snappy. Louder than the 130gr 38s I was shooting.
 
dead is dead no matter how you get that way. .22 in the head is better than a .45 in the wind. that being said with todays medicine you can survive extensive wounds that in the old days even a small wound could get infected and kill you with a little time. i own two of the small .22 revolvers and they are not my main line of defence, but as a last ditch chance to stay alive. i carry a ruger mk-11 SS .22 with a 4-3/4" barrel in long walks in the tame woods(no big animals) and i don,t feel under gunned. to me the lowey .22 is not a toy. eastbank.
 
trentcwwilson said:
Shot one today. What is it, roughly a 20lb trigger?
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Mine feels closer to 5lbs.

You may be noticing the small surface area of the trigger. The contact area between trigger and finger is probably 1/4th of what you'd expect on a K frame or the like. That really changes how we perceive trigger pull for obvious reasons.

Or maybe there is something wrong with the gun you tried.
 
I have a Black Widow and carry it every day, much of the time it is the only gun I have with me while on the farm. I have often used it to dispatch garden pest. A rabbit will let a tractor get pretty close and I can usually hit it if the rabbit is inside 25'. There are a number of specially developed suppliers of 22wmr ammo for short barrel handguns and it works well. The 22lr cylinder is useful both of less expensive target work and general fun. The 22wmr can be effective on rabid coons and possums. Enjoy your new NAA-BW it is a great gun.
 
It's a perfect gun for guys like me who don't wear pants often, and is more often in basketball shorts than shorts with a belt.
 
a .22 out of these super short barrels is only generating around 40 ftlbs of energy.....dangerous for sure, but hardly a man stopper......i mean hell, i have air rifles that put out more muzzle energy....

you are also handicapping any accuracy with a tiny grip and super short sight radius.

there is an argument for carrying .22 for SD in something like a ruger 22/45.....

but these NAA revolvers are NOT serious SD tools.....
 
M-Cameron said:
a .22 out of these super short barrels is only generating around 40 ftlbs of energy.....dangerous for sure, but hardly a man stopper......i mean hell, i have air rifles that put out more muzzle energy....

you are also handicapping any accuracy with a tiny grip and super short sight radius.

there is an argument for carrying .22 for SD in something like a ruger 22/45.....

but these NAA revolvers are NOT serious SD tools.....
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And a hi point is? I disagree. We shot this turd at 3/5/7 yards, which is tennessee carry class range, and it shot extremely accurately. More accurate than I though it would be. As far as a .22 for carry, that's a debate for a different thread. .22 mag is better than no gun. Just pray you don't have to reload...
 
M-Cameron said:
a .22 out of these super short barrels is only generating around 40 ftlbs of energy....
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Incorrect. The gun in question throws a 40gr. bullet at 1050fps for 98 ftlbs of energy at the muzzle.

M-Cameron said:
.dangerous for sure, but hardly a man stopper......
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Even if true, who cares? Men aren't the only things that need stopping.

M-Cameron said:
you are also handicapping any accuracy with a tiny grip and super short sight radius.
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The gun in this thread has a roughly 3" sight radius and a solid 3-finger grip. Accuracy? The reviews I've read say they average 1.25" groups at 10 yards. That's plenty accurate as far as I am concerned.


M-Cameron said:
but these NAA revolvers are NOT serious SD tools.....
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Who cares about SD? Even if you do, who are you to say what is serious when you don't appear to know the most basic facts about the weapon under discussion?
 
Incorrect. The gun in question throws a 40gr. bullet at 1050fps for 98 ftlbs of energy at the muzzle.
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yeah, there is no way you are getting 1050FPS out of that thing.......at most you are getting 700-800fps

1050 is what i get out of my 20" barrel....
The gun in this thread has a roughly 3" sight radius and a solid 3-finger grip. Accuracy? The reviews I've read say they average 1.25" groups at 10 yards. That's plenty accurate as far as I am concerned.
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and how long does it take to shoot those groups?.......if you spend 30-60seconds per shot, then yeah, ide believe it.

Who cares about SD? Even if you do, who are you to say what is serious when you don't appear to know the most basic facts about the weapon under discussion?
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im pretty sure people claiming to carry them as a backup and a primary CCW care about SD.........

and i dont know the most basic fact about the weapon?.....how did you gather that? from my one post you are able to calculate all of my knowledge on a given firearm? you must be good.
 
I got this one. If you're getting that velocity out of a 22 mag rifle, I suggest you buy one that can shoot. I was getting 2" groups with less that 2 seconds between shots. And I can see it as a backup, but many are carrying them as primary.
 
M-Cameron said:
yeah, there is no way you are getting 1050FPS out of that thing.......at most you are getting 700-800fps

1050 is what i get out of my 20" barrel...
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A 20" barrel should be running closer to 1800fps for this cartridge...you do know what cartridge this firearm chambers, yes?

and how long does it take to shoot those groups?.......if you spend 30-60seconds per shot, then yeah, ide believe it.
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I have no idea how long it would take you, but considering that it has better sights than most J-frames I imagine 2-3 seconds per shot is more realistic.

im pretty sure people claiming to carry them as a backup and a primary CCW care about SD.........
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Why do you think that? A lot of people carry guns (including concealed carry) who have zero concern about self defense.

Example1: after a recent copperhead sighting near the chicken coop, I carry mine when in the back yard on the off chance I'll be able to snuff the little egg-eater quicker with it than with a shovel. It is concealed carry,but it is in defense of breakfast eggs, not self.

Example 2: the CHL instructor I used flat out said to the class that his entire reason to carry was to exercise his 2a rights because if he didn't they would errode. He dismissed self defense as a non-issue.

and i dont know the most basic fact about the weapon?.....how did you gather that? from my one post you are able to calculate all of my knowledge on a given firearm? you must be good.
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You don't know the round it fires, the muzzle velocity, the sight design or radius, the grip type, the muzzle energy...you haven't shown that you know anything about it whatsoever, as far as I can tell. Can you tell us the model name?
 
not ruger, what did i do?
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You did what you wanted, bought what you wanted and now are the only one that has to live with your decision. What difference does it make what the rest of us think?
 
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