Noveske vs. Colt 6920/40

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Think I have narrowed it down to these two rifles. From what I understand the Noveske is twice the price as the Colt, is it worth it? Which would you get? Looking forward to hearing two cents.
 
depends entirely on which noveske

the features of the noveske rifles are clearly listed on their website. which features appeal to you?
 
Does Colt make a middy upper yet? I'd like to get a 6920, but prefer the middy configuration to the shorty.
 
I dunno, I'm no hardcore AR expert, but to me, for the money of a Noveske, You could get the Colt with a nice Optic, some Mags and a decent amount of ammo. That'd be my vote.
 
Does Colt make a middy upper yet? I'd like to get a 6920, but prefer the middy configuration to the shorty.

A big reason Bravo Company (BCM) rifles are so popular - Colt level (or better) quality with a crazy variety of configurations to choose from.

You can put together a BCM middy for a bit over $1000 and have a rifle that is equal or better in quality to the Colt.

$420 BCM Mid-Length Upper Assembly http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-mid-16.htm
$30 MOE Mid-Length Handguard http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Magpul-MOE-Enhanced-Handguard-BLACK-p/mag440 blk.htm
$160 Auto BCG http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-...Auto-M16-p/bcm bolt carrier group auto mp.htm
$45 BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-GUNFIGHTER-Charging-Handle-GFH-Mod-4-p/bcm gfh mod 4 556.htm
Your Choice of Rear Sight http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-Rear-Iron-Sights-s/56.htm
Complete Lower http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Lower-Receiver-Groups-M4-AR15-s/117.htm
 
If money is not an object, go Noveske. They are one of the very best AR style rifles made. They have outstanding customer support and the fit and finish on them is second to none. If price is a big issue, go Colt. It will perform as good under normal operating conditions.
 
Really depends on what Noveske you are looking at. A basic middy is around 1400 bucks which is only a few hundred more than the 6920 and not much more than the 6940. One of the things you pay for with the Noveske is the match grade barrel. My Noveske was very accurate for a chrome lined AR.
 
The rifle is for putting a big smile on my face. That and home defense.

As stated already it depends which Noveske but they have plenty of models that would serve fine for home defense but so will a Colt. If you want accuracy you can get a Noveske with a stainless steel barrel which neither the Colt 6920 or 6940 have. If you want to put a silencer on it Noveske also has the switchblock option. Noveske also has mid length options. If none of those things are a concern i don't see much reason to pay the extra for a Noveske. If it were me though i'd instead go for a light profile barrel such as that of the Colt 6720 or one from BCM or Daniel Defense. The gov't profile barrel makes not sense on a civilian AR.
 
Really depends on what Noveske you are looking at. A basic middy is around 1400 bucks which is only a few hundred more than the 6920 and not much more than the 6940. One of the things you pay for with the Noveske is the match grade barrel. My Noveske was very accurate for a chrome lined AR.

This post is more or less exactly what I was going to write. Chrome line Noveske barrels are surprisingly accurate. When comparing a basic colt to a basic Novekse with similar features a Noveske just isn't that much more, particularly if you buy the upper and put it on a lower you've assembled. Going that route they Noveske can be the same or even less if you shop it right. For roughly similar money for roughly similar features I'd rather have the Noveske. As others have said many Noveske models offer features that may or may not be something you want and thus may or may not be worth the money to you.

Both are good guns. I'd happily own a Colt (or BCM). If you set one of each on a table and let someone walk away with one I doubt very many people would take the colt. Thus, if money is not a big issue I'd get the Novekse after carefully considering what features I want.

As to the accuracy of chrome lined Novekse barrels as discussed above.

From an interview with John Noveske found here http://www.defensereview.com/novesk...ecce-carbine-john-noveske-interview-part-one/

Crane: Right, o.k., now you’re double-chrome-lining your barrels, or some of your barrels, not the stainless steel barrels, but the…

Noveske: The N4 Light Carbine and N4 Light Recce barrels.

Crane: Light Carbine barrels. You’re double chromin’ ‘em, and obviously, you must be getting a pretty nice even chrome job on there.

Noveske: Yes. I have a tolerance that is equal to a match-grade barrel.

Crane: Equal to a stainless barrel?


Noveske: Well, that doesn’t mean anything, because there’s a lot of different makers of stainless barrels, but there is a kind of an unspoken match-grade tolerance in the custom barrel world of 2/10ths of a thousoundth concentricity, or…in uniformity of bore diameter from end to end, and I spec that out on my chrome-lined barrels.

Crane: Are you the only guy that’s double-chrome-lining ‘em?

Noveske: That’s not the right [terminology]. "Double-chrome-lining" implies that I’m chroming twice. I’m chroming once to the technical data package requirements for the M249 machine gun [FN M249 Squad Automatic Weapon a.k.a. FN M249 SAW], which call out for a chrome thickness that is approximately twice the thickness of an M16 or an M4.

[Later in the interview during a discussion of his stainless barrels versus the chrome lined ones.]

Noveske: Stainless barrels–and I’m not sayin’ this from what I’ve shot. This is reports from customers—The typical end-user report on my stainless barrels is about .6 MOA, and the Light Carbine barrels, most everything I hear is sub-MOA, and that means it can be three quarters of an inch [3/4" MOA] or half an inch [1/2" MOA].
 
I would get a Noveske if accuracy was a big factor, otherwise the Colt should be more than adequate. Not saying a Colt won't be accurate just not to the level of a Noveske.
 
I love my Colt 6940. I put an Eotech on it and bought some pmags and a few odds and ends and it is just perfect for me. I have one other AR that I assembled (20" A3 style) and really have no desire for other AR style rifles as the Colt is just so darned good and versatile.

I feel that the price I paid was a good value for quality of the gun and to have spent any more would not be prudent as it is doubtful to me that other makers product would be significantly better.

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A lot of it comes down to which Noveske. Personally I think the most basic Noveske is going to be as good as any Colt made AR. There are some Noveske models that are probably superior to a Colt. The truth is Colt makes one of the best AR's on the market for the price, IMO you can't go wrong with a Colt AR.

That said I love my Noveske mid length and given the choice between it and the 6920 I would choose the Noveske.
 
RatDrall

Nice list, but where can you find a BCM lower for sale, that is actually in stock?
I mean yes, you can find some (IMO kinda high dollar) stripped chainsaws, but I believe you mentioned complete.

Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places, but they seem to all be sold out.

Not trying to be an ass here. Really and truely, I just wanted to know where?
 
Noveske barrels are the best in the industry. If money was no object the Noveske is cream of the crop. But the Colt IS the gold standard and is no doubt a fantastic rifle as well so if having money left over to accessorize is important you will be will served with the Colt, and as long as you are happy with the 16-inch carbine configuration. You are comparing two of the most well-regarded names in the AR world, so you can't go wrong either way. Also have a look at the Knight's SR-15E3, they are great rifles in the same ballpark as Noveske, speaking quality- and price-wise.
 
the noveske has quite a few superior features. again, it all depends on whether or not those things are interesting to you.

e.g. an improved magwell, do a lot of mag changes?

also, a lighter and longer rail (so you can put your hand much farther out without 3rd degree burns)

also also a blackout flash hider, shooting in the dark much?

also also also gunfighter charging handle

etc etc
 
They are both excellent guns. I think you will be more than happy with either one.

I say that if buying the Noveske won't interfere with your finances, or your ability to get the accessories and ammo to go with it, get it. If you can afford it, I think it is probably worth it.

I have a Colt, and what I most want for my next AR is is a Noveske. Some day...
 
I had both and kept the Colt when I had to sell one. Not because the Noveske was the lesser weapon, I'd say it was the opposite, but because the Noveske fetched more money and being the basic model didn't do anything for me better than the Colt.

When I get around to building my SPR/RECCE, Noveske will be at the top of the co tenders list.
 
If money was no object, Noveske is my choice every time.

If you want to save a bit and still get an excellent rifle then the Colt will serve you well. I would say it really boils down to your budget.

With Noveske you get the premium name brand which fetches more money for the same quality (and probably better) than Colt.
 
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