someguy2800
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Because the original was either not profitable, or not profitable enough...
Now for my 7.62x39 rifle to come in!
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Because the original was either not profitable, or not profitable enough...
troy fairweather
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it was there best selling bolt action.
someguy2800
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The oracle was DPMS's best selling rifle and now they are out of business. Just because you sell something doesn't mean it was profitable.
BreechFace
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But DPMS went out of business, they didn't discontinue their best seller.
someguy2800
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They discontinued being in business, because they failed to make a profit.
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Personally, I think they discontinued it because its a race to sell the cheapest to be made for the most profits. It's painfully obvious to me anyways.
Let's see:
New CZ offering: Extruded aluminum, no fancy wood with finishes, nitride or phosphate type finish
527: Steel, blued, wood stock
And the new offering is expected to sell at a higher cost, cha-ching!
Which one is going to have more margins? And they'll promote it as better than the past.
Let's see:
New CZ offering: Extruded aluminum, no fancy wood with finishes, nitride or phosphate type finish
527: Steel, blued, wood stock
And the new offering is expected to sell at a higher cost, cha-ching!
Which one is going to have more margins? And they'll promote it as better than the past.
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BreechFace
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One has to analyze their P&L's, overhead costs (see upper management siphon of money), extreme increase in competition (all the new AR manufacturers), etc. to understand why they failed to make a profit. You are assuming their best seller was losing them money, I don't have the insider information to suggest that. At the same time I'm in the same boat as to my reasoning behind CZ discontinuing their 527, but something tells me I'm correct with my above post.
maxxhavoc
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I got an inline compensator for mine, it quieted it down a good bit from the shooter's (and bystander's) positions.
someguy2800
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The cost of everything in the world is going up at an alarming pace, you can't keep making the same product with higher expenses and maintain your profit margin without also increasing the price. At a certain point the market will not tolerate that price when there is competition and you have to figure out a way to cut expense. Cost cutting is not always about greed, sometimes its a simple fight for survival. If they had thought they could continue to sell the same thing at a higher price maybe they would have done so, and perhaps they could have, but you have to place your bets sometimes.
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CoalCrackerAl
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I found a Radical arms AR 15 in 7.62x39. for 500.00. I wonder if my plated bullet loads would operate it? I loaded them with 9 grains of unique.
I do not know much about AR'S. I don't want an AK because of no scope rail/mount.
I do not know much about AR'S. I don't want an AK because of no scope rail/mount.
someguy2800
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That would be unlikely to cycle the action
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CoalCrackerAl
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Thanks for the reply. I need to be patent. Im thinking the Howa's are held up in the shipping port mess in Cali.
troy fairweather
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I like the howa just not the bottom plastic, worth the money getting a metal one.
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CoalCrackerAl
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Im going with a walnut stock. 
high country
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Im going with a walnut stock.
Best of luck tracking one down, and definitely post up pics when you get it!
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CoalCrackerAl
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Im thinking after the new year they should start to hit the racks.
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