NOW Is the Time

[JCooperfan1911]

We all know the crazy ridiculousness that is the metallic cartridge gun and ammo market now. 22s for $0.40 a shot, 9mm four to five times as expensive as it once was.

Well now is the time for black powders guys. Absolutely no issue finding components and the prices haven’t budged a bit. Still the same as pre COVID. Here’s a fine Kentucky rifle:



From an economics standpoint, one shot of a .45 Kentucky rifle cost about $0.35. This is half the going rate for a 9mm cartridge these days! And no surprise here the Kentucky rifle takes much longer to reload. A full day on the line can be shot for just a few dollars with a black powder. One can spend hours relaxing at the range and not drain the bank! In terms of time at the range vs money spent, it is EXPONENTIALLY cheaper!

Add the fun challenge, the smoke n’ fire, the BOOM, the smell of the gunpowder, and it’s incredibly fun too! You can get into the weeds and learn all about the history as well.

If anyone here is on the fence about black powder, NOW IS THE TIME TO EXPERIENCE THEM.

 

[Fyrstyk]

Flint locks forever. I can shoot all day at the range for less than $20. My lead is from salvaged scrap, and I buy powder in bulk amounts, and I can even find and knapp my own flints if required.

 

[troy fairweather]

I wish I had the money to order the kibler I want, powder is always a worry tho.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

Beautiful rifle.
I would like to delve into BP, both long guns and revolvers.

 

[JCooperfan1911]

Beautiful rifle.
I would like to delve into BP, both long guns and revolvers.

You should!

 

[Armored farmer]

Full shooting enjoyment without the feds. Trust me boys, you're gonna love it.

 

[Armored farmer]

I even have a new old stock ....unfinished...brass 1851 navy kit by CVA that I would consider selling.....to a good home, of course .
If someone wants a winter doldrums project to keep themselves occupied for a few weeks.

 

[troy fairweather]

I even have a new old stock ....unfinished...brass 1851 navy kit by CVA that I would consider selling.....to a good home, of course .
If someone wants a winter doldrums project to keep themselves occupied for a few weeks.

I maybe interested in the kit.

 

[Armored farmer]

We'll talk pm troy and not derail this thread more than I already have.?..apologies @JCooperfan1911.

The bp world of shooting has much to offer, especially in the times we are in now. I csn attend a full sanctioned nmlra shoot and have a ball all afternoon shooting 4 or 5 matches, and only fire maybe 25 shots. I will feel great satisfaction with an afternoon of only 20-30 shots. I just don't get that with modern guns. I need hundreds for the same satisfaction.
Maybe its just me?

 

[Mike OTDP]

On top of that, the guns have personality. Cartridge guns, especially the newer designs, have the personality of a hammer. They are tools. The muzzle-loaders are your friends.

 

[CraigC]

No arguments here!

There's been talk that Kibler is going to come out with a Hawken kit.

 

[brewer12345]

No arguments here!

There's been talk that Kibler is going to come out with a Hawken kit.

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What a beauty! If I win the lottery I want a Pedersoli SxS 10 gauge and a purty one like that.

 

[CraigC]

Pistols too!

 

[Armored farmer]

No arguments here!

There's been talk that Kibler is going to come out with a Hawken kit.

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You had better meet me at pall mall next March with that beauty.(if they have it)

 

[1KPerDay]

Absolutely no issue finding components and the prices haven’t budged a bit. Still the same as pre COVID.

Seen/priced any Remington #10 caps lately?

 

[JCooperfan1911]

Seen/priced any Remington #10 caps lately?

Other caps are available that work well and there are always flintlocks. Seen the price of literally any cartridge or reloading component lately?

 

[Armored farmer]

For the record, don't be afraid of flintlocks. I have found them to be every bit as reliable as caplocks. You just need to mind your Flintstones.

 

[Shortgrub]

And watch that ya don't get Mr. Slate. No Spark.

 

[Cowhide Cliff]

For the record, don't be afraid of flintlocks. I have found them to be every bit as reliable as caplocks. You just need to mind your Flintstones.

More reliable in my experience and twice the fun.

 

[Mike OTDP]

Try a matchlock.

 

[Steve S.]

There is a place for both BP weapons and modern firearms; I would love to own a classic, very well made Hawkin in .50 or .54 but I have yet to locate my kind of quality - hard item to find these days. In turn, I would not like to enter a foreign or domestic battle with a BP rifle these days - there is a place and need for both.

 

[Fyrstyk]

There is a place for both BP weapons and modern firearms; I would love to own a classic, very well made Hawkin in .50 or .54 but I have yet to locate my kind of quality - hard item to find these days. In turn, I would not like to enter a foreign or domestic battle with a BP rifle these days - there is a place and need for both.

For a very good Hawken reproduction, take a look at the Pedersoli Rocky Mountain Hawken. Probably the best production gun out there unless you go custom.

 

[Steve S.]

Fyrstyk, I would love to purchase/ own a very well made custom Hawkin - can you point me in the right direction?

 

[arcticap]

Fyrstyk, I would love to purchase/ own a very well made custom Hawkin - can you point me in the right direction?

There's a lot of custom Hawken builders, one being WB Selb.
Although the reports are that he can take up to 36 months to complete a rifle depending on his back log.

WB Selb website: --->>> https://www.hawkenrifles.com/index.shtml
An example of a completed WB Selb rifle. --->>> https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...le-case-colored-unfired-.cfm?gun_id=101547048
A thread about WB Selb: --->>> https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/w-b-selb-hawken.107814/

 

[Fyrstyk]

Fyrstyk, I would love to purchase/ own a very well made custom Hawkin - can you point me in the right direction?

Check out the "Muzzleloader Forum" there is one offered for sale.