Ivy Mike
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Exactly why Vegas is the perfect place for conventions! Plenty of hotel rooms. Covid transmission rate is considerably lower than Texas. And the only school in Vegas is UNLV which, lets admit, is not something anyone cares about.
NRA cancels the Annual Meeting in Houston
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mcb
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So your saying the NRA can do no wrong? The NRA is rapidly become more of a liability than an asset to the Pro-2A community. Sending them money right now is more likely to be use to buy WLP a suit or spent on bankruptcy lawyers' fees than used to fight anti-2A efforts. Open you eyes and do some real research on what is going on in the NRA and its senior leadership and you will see a deeply flawed organization that is not doing anything good to improve its bad situations. I have no doubt Bloomberg is smiling at the NRA situation, the NRA is a dumpster fire and that is being kind, but that does not mean I will accept the betrayal by the NRA leadership just to spite Bloomberg. That blind support of the NRA is atleast partially to blame for the current situations. The NRA membership let WLP and his cronies run unchecked for too long and now we are paying the price.
I didn’t say they can do no wrong. I’m saying that Bloomberg is executing his plan, just like he said he would, using his tools and abilities, coupled with the weaknesses of his intended enemy. The 2A is being Sun Tzue’d from all sides. With all the other corrupt and dirty swamp entities out there, doing way worse stuff than WLP and the NRA, anyone who doesn’t see that this is driven by Bloomberg, his apparatus’, and his agenda simply isn’t seeing the forest for the trees, and is not remembering some relatively recent history.
The NRA is going down. He said he’d do it, and he is.
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mcb
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The NRA is being "Sun Tzue'd from all sides" deservedly so IMHO but not the 2A we are seeing several other pro-2A groups stepping into the void that the NRA is leaving. I know my pro-2A money has mostly been going to FPC. It is a shame the NRA is self-destructing but they are not the only pro-2A group and in the NRA's decline several other groups are picking up the slack. Look for one that matches your beliefs and support them while we wait and see if the NRA can right itself.
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Well, I just saw a news story that the NRA 2022 event will be in Houston, on Memorial Day weekend, 2022. We’ll see if that one actually happens.
For a brief moment, I had posted that I had seen this in an e-mail. I was mis-remembering my pre-caffeinated inter-nettin’, from first thing this morning. I corrected this, with an editt.
For a brief moment, I had posted that I had seen this in an e-mail. I was mis-remembering my pre-caffeinated inter-nettin’, from first thing this morning. I corrected this, with an editt.
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News story link, about NRA 2022 event:
https://abc13.com/nra-houston-2022-exhibit-new-dates/11061484/
https://abc13.com/nra-houston-2022-exhibit-new-dates/11061484/
“while we wait and see if the NRA can right itself.”
It will not be allowed to. But; it really doesn’t matter as long as some group with millions of members takes up the mantle. We need representation in the crooked swamps of politicians, because we certainly don’t have any from anyone elected.
It will not be allowed to. But; it really doesn’t matter as long as some group with millions of members takes up the mantle. We need representation in the crooked swamps of politicians, because we certainly don’t have any from anyone elected.
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Ivy Mike
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Amen! There are so many groups that actually work to support gun rights and more closely match their base's political ideology. The Socialist Rifle Association is a staunch advocate of safe, responsible gun ownership and also engages in educational programs and promotes mutual aid programs to assist people in need. There is ZERO reason to waste money on the NRA anymore. If you're a right leaning gun owner, the GOA is a good option. If you're a left leaning gun owner, the SRA or Liberal Gun Club might be for you. Are you LGBT? The Pink Pistols is there.
Right now is something of a grassroots renaissance for gun ownership in America.
According to Grass Roots North Carolina, the NRA held their meeting in Charlotte NC. Weird how no one knew 
Cut and paste from their email:
Gun Rights Supporters:
Did you know that the NRA just yesterday held its annual meeting right here in Charlotte? You could be forgiven for not knowing, since NRA leadership apparently didn’t want you to know.
As you’ve probably heard, the NRA is subject to legal action to dissolve the organization by leftist New York State Attorney General Letitia James over allegations that NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and others “looted” the organization, including allegedly misappropriating $64 million of members’ money.
So to avoid accountability from members, apparently the NRA decided to have an annual meeting nobody would attend. After cancelling its annual meeting and convention in Houston, ostensibly due to “COVID,” NRA leaders quietly and belatedly rescheduled it for Charlotte this weekend, presumably because the bylaws require having some type of annual meeting.
Of course, that was after they apparently ensured that they utterly controlled who would attend by changing the minimum notification in the bylaws and changing what constitutes a quorum to 100 people (yes, at an organization claiming millions of members, a “quorum” for its annual meeting is 100 people).
Even if you are a voting member of the NRA, you might not have gotten notice of the meeting. (I’m a voting member, but I didn’t get notice, and neither did all but a couple of people I spoke to – people who are probably not on the NRA’s “naughty list” like I am.) Even those who got notice reportedly didn’t get it until late this week, days before the meeting.
Don’t take my word for it. My friend Jeff Knox, son of the legendary Neal Knox – the former NRA vice president who was removed from the NRA board for advocating reforms – just did a piece on it for ammoland.com. Says Jeff:
“Under the new Bylaws, the Association is just required to meet the minimum announcement requirements of the state in which the Association is incorporated – New York – which offers several options for alerting members to a meeting. The easiest and cheapest of those options is for the Association to publish an announcement at least once per week for three weeks prior to the scheduled meeting, in a newspaper in the local area of the Association’s primary business location” (presumably, New York).
Inaction at the NRA annual meeting
But wait, there’s more: There was nothing to be voted on at the meeting, the board of directors having already been decided upon (everyone on the preferred slate was re-elected, of course, and all of the write-ins failed).
The single resolution – to dump LaPierre & Co. – was reportedly tabled without a vote. Oh, yes: The NRA also reportedly claimed credit for state-level gains like we’ve made in North Carolina, despite the fact that the NRA lobbyist has been seemingly absent for our entire legislative session.
Cut and paste from their email:Gun Rights Supporters:
Did you know that the NRA just yesterday held its annual meeting right here in Charlotte? You could be forgiven for not knowing, since NRA leadership apparently didn’t want you to know.
As you’ve probably heard, the NRA is subject to legal action to dissolve the organization by leftist New York State Attorney General Letitia James over allegations that NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and others “looted” the organization, including allegedly misappropriating $64 million of members’ money.
So to avoid accountability from members, apparently the NRA decided to have an annual meeting nobody would attend. After cancelling its annual meeting and convention in Houston, ostensibly due to “COVID,” NRA leaders quietly and belatedly rescheduled it for Charlotte this weekend, presumably because the bylaws require having some type of annual meeting.
Of course, that was after they apparently ensured that they utterly controlled who would attend by changing the minimum notification in the bylaws and changing what constitutes a quorum to 100 people (yes, at an organization claiming millions of members, a “quorum” for its annual meeting is 100 people).
Even if you are a voting member of the NRA, you might not have gotten notice of the meeting. (I’m a voting member, but I didn’t get notice, and neither did all but a couple of people I spoke to – people who are probably not on the NRA’s “naughty list” like I am.) Even those who got notice reportedly didn’t get it until late this week, days before the meeting.
Don’t take my word for it. My friend Jeff Knox, son of the legendary Neal Knox – the former NRA vice president who was removed from the NRA board for advocating reforms – just did a piece on it for ammoland.com. Says Jeff:
“Under the new Bylaws, the Association is just required to meet the minimum announcement requirements of the state in which the Association is incorporated – New York – which offers several options for alerting members to a meeting. The easiest and cheapest of those options is for the Association to publish an announcement at least once per week for three weeks prior to the scheduled meeting, in a newspaper in the local area of the Association’s primary business location” (presumably, New York).
Inaction at the NRA annual meeting
But wait, there’s more: There was nothing to be voted on at the meeting, the board of directors having already been decided upon (everyone on the preferred slate was re-elected, of course, and all of the write-ins failed).
The single resolution – to dump LaPierre & Co. – was reportedly tabled without a vote. Oh, yes: The NRA also reportedly claimed credit for state-level gains like we’ve made in North Carolina, despite the fact that the NRA lobbyist has been seemingly absent for our entire legislative session.
What is climbing is Covid numbers that are predominantly among the vaccinated, proven in Israel and Wales. Hospitals are reporting they are full, yet floors are closed and beds empty because they are understaffed by 30% and are preparing to dismiss even more. They only count staffed beds, no actual.
Covid is just the excuse as said, Houston is a poor venue, exhibitors are cancelling because it's a poor show, expenses are higher due to inflation, it's mostly a public venue with little to report in sales directly. They are conserving their expenses for SHOT, which makes money. There, real buyers come with lists of what they want to order and actually do so. NRA - mostly political theater. And when the theater has a bad rep, many fewer show up. It's not like inflation, schools in session, your own childs football game, and being a poor choice on the calendar helps.
I've been to Gilcrest in September renting a beach condo, the off season is nice, but a major gun show where you need kids out of school to get attendance up and vendors to willingly display demands a summer date to exploit it. The NRA chose the date to back out from the beginning.
chicharrones
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I may be missing something here. The George R. Brown in Houston is similar to other convention centers in this state, and I've been to many for trade shows in my industry outside of firearms. That side of downtown Houston is similar to the side of Dallas where the Kay Bailey Hutchison convention center resides. Right on the line of nice downtown amenities and near poor areas. Same same, just looks different to people that prefer one over the other.
In 2013 the NRA convention in Houston seemed to be fully packed during the weekdays that I attended. People were walking shoulder to shoulder and people lined up to get into speaking events. I don't know why school kids matter in any convention that isn't something like anime or comicon. Working folks simply took the day off, as did I and others I knew.
Comparing this NRA gig to SHOT? Yep not the same kind of show. Industry versus public, like mentioned. If vendors bail out from the NRA gig due to wanting to cut back budgets for industry shows, I get that. My company has pulled back on trade show booths depending on market reasons on some years.
In 2013 the NRA convention in Houston seemed to be fully packed during the weekdays that I attended. People were walking shoulder to shoulder and people lined up to get into speaking events. I don't know why school kids matter in any convention that isn't something like anime or comicon. Working folks simply took the day off, as did I and others I knew.
Comparing this NRA gig to SHOT? Yep not the same kind of show. Industry versus public, like mentioned. If vendors bail out from the NRA gig due to wanting to cut back budgets for industry shows, I get that. My company has pulled back on trade show booths depending on market reasons on some years.
chicharrones
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Yeah, us Texans need to work and do what we need to do keep that income rolling in. For me and the company I work for, that means abiding by customer's health and safety requirements for entry. Otherwise, we don't get the job.
Large companies with traditionally high safety standards have temp checks, mask requirements, etc. Small mom and pop companies may or may not have stringent requirements.
Which directly corresponds with 30.06 signage. If there is a 30.06 sign, the likelihood of anti-covid measures goes up dramatically.
mcb
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NRA board re-elects Wayne LaPierre as CEO and executive vice president
We need a list of the Board of Directors and how they voted.
ETA: https://taitnra.substack.com/p/summary-of-the-nra-annual-meeting
The board is made of up 76 people I believe so 27 absent, 3 abstaining.
Delusional.
We need a list of the Board of Directors and how they voted.
ETA: https://taitnra.substack.com/p/summary-of-the-nra-annual-meeting
The board is made of up 76 people I believe so 27 absent, 3 abstaining.
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2005 and 2013 you could not stir them with a stick on all days. George R Brown area was bustling with people for the show. Now today may be another story because of the current regime. Hidalgo the County Comm is very anti gun and playing this covid thing to the hilt. Turner is well, I can't say that here. This guy ran for mayor for years and never got elected until there was no one left to run. I grew up in Houston and like other large cities it is heading downhill fast. There is a large gun show outfit that use to have a show once a month at GRB but has not been allowed to do so. I'm glad I got of there a few years ago...
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I went to the large gun shows they held at the Cow Palace in San Francisco several times a year for almost 30 years before they decided that wasn’t an appropriate use of the facility.
Skylerbone
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In some circles COVID is its own conspiracy with hand picked arguments on all sides. What I can say from personal experience as 1 person who didn’t vaccinate...it sucks. I’ve lost the last 3 weeks or so of my life, not fully conscious of when I got sick or how many days I spent in an isolation ward.
At present a compressor unit is feeding me oxygen so I can work toward getting back to normal. Weight loss, 21 lbs in 16 days or so. No 20 miles of cycling a day as I can’t walk 100 yards without fatigue. All of this to say that while none of us may relish Government concerns over COVID spread, it is a true concern, regardless of which group those cancellations affect.
Whatever Wayne and the NRA are dealing with internally, well, better those vendors pulled out and let this one pass with the timing being where we are. I hope any of this makes sense on the little sleep I’m getting, but I don’t judge the cancellation as a conspiracy, even if some NRA higher ups planned for the potential.
Stay safe.
At present a compressor unit is feeding me oxygen so I can work toward getting back to normal. Weight loss, 21 lbs in 16 days or so. No 20 miles of cycling a day as I can’t walk 100 yards without fatigue. All of this to say that while none of us may relish Government concerns over COVID spread, it is a true concern, regardless of which group those cancellations affect.
Whatever Wayne and the NRA are dealing with internally, well, better those vendors pulled out and let this one pass with the timing being where we are. I hope any of this makes sense on the little sleep I’m getting, but I don’t judge the cancellation as a conspiracy, even if some NRA higher ups planned for the potential.
Stay safe.
Folks, I've closed and opened this one a dozen times that went unseen over the last few days. We keep going back and forth over the on topic line in so far as talking about COVID. I am not unsympathetic to the issue. I'm truly not. But it is simply off topic for THR. However, there is at least one thread running on COVID over on https://notechtyranny.com/index.php
The site is owned by the same owner as THR and a few of the mods are the same too. But the mission is vastly different. Everything off topic here is fair game there. Maybe take a look.
As far as this one, we are done.
The site is owned by the same owner as THR and a few of the mods are the same too. But the mission is vastly different. Everything off topic here is fair game there. Maybe take a look.
As far as this one, we are done.
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