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CCW at NRA Annual Meeting

Discussion in 'Legal' started by 45crittergitter, Feb 25, 2005.

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  1. 45crittergitter

    45crittergitter Member

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    Does anyone know if CCW with permit is legal at the NRA Annual Meeting in Houston? Source of info?
     
  2. glockman

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    Nra Ccw

    NOPE! As a life member, it has been my experience that the NRA NEVER allows ccw. Go figure.
     
  3. lostone1413

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    That seems strange. I though they were for us gun owners. Guess when they talk about no gun control they are talking about the sport shooters. Been a life member for over 25 years but seems when it comes to the true meaning of the 2nd the NRA tries to shy away. I think for the ones who believe the 2nd is about self defense the GOA is way more apt to fight for your rights.
     
  4. feedthehogs

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    I would say the problem is not the NRA but the convention centers that the NRA leases and their rules and regulations.

    Most county owned buildings have bans on CCW due to concerts and other such events that are held there.

    When the NRA was in Orlando, it was governed by the local laws which prohibited CCW in the convention center.
    Metal detectors were used.
     
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    That is mentally retarded. You would think an org the size of the NRA would be able to shop around until someone decided they were going to allow CCW in the meeting place.

    Again, the NRA disappoints.
     
  6. Jeff OTMG

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    As of Sept 1, 2003 I do not believe that cities may inact restrictions on CC on public property. The airports use to be restricted, but not anymore. I don't remember seeing signs at the George R. Brown Convention Center the last time I was there either.
     
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    I have a hunch the G.O.A. would respect our right to keep and bear arms.
     
  8. rick_reno

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    They should offer an "after-life" membership - where you give them all your assets that are easily convertible into new suits for Wayne - and this membership would allow you CCW at the gatherings.
    Fear not, when the going gets rough in Congress for gun rights - they'll be there fighting for the best compromise they can arrange.
    Think about this...without the gun control issue, how many members would the NRA have?
     
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    That makes no sense to me, and seems stupid. If you can't carry at an NRA meeting, what the hell is the NRA fighting for? They oppose restrictions on where we can carry, and they fight for expansion of the list where carry is legal. If this is about anything but the rules set down by the owners of the convention halls, then this is a hypocrisy problem. And as someone said, I would think that the NRA could find a place to hold its convention that would not get hung up on legal carry by those who have been vetted by the permitting agencies. :banghead:

    I mean, people carry all over inside the gun shows they have here in S. FL. Yes, they ask people to unload and put a cable-tie around their actions at the door, but ... um... who does that? I sure as hell don't like the idea of it. And the vendors are carrying fully loaded, right? So if gun show venues apparently allow it, what's the NRA's excuse?


    And to the guy above me who implies that the NRA is deliberately not winning the fight for carry freedom... What is it you think they could do that would make gun rights unassailable at any time in the future? I don't see the fight for Second Amendment rights as analogous to the perpetual war against drugs and/or crime that the police cannot afford to win. If we gave up the fight against drugs, we'd actually win in the long run. But not so with the fight against gun control.

    -Jeffrey
     
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    "And to the guy above me who implies that the NRA is deliberately not winning the fight for carry freedom... What is it you think they could do that would make gun rights unassailable at any time in the future?"

    Okay to answer your question, how about they stop supporting incumbent pols regardless of their actual record? How about adopting the goal of changing votes instead of counting them?

    For me its gotten to the point that everytime I get one of those letters(fewer later) asking for money, I get out my checkbook and write one to the GOA. Then I send a note telling the NRA why they dont get my support. So far all I've gotten back are meaningless form letters.
     
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    I love threads like this. They always seem to bring the NRA-bashers out in droves, spouting inaccurate and wildly speculative disinformation.

    First, no one has posted any factual information that CCW will be prohibited at the annual meeting. Second, were this the case, no one has posted any evidence that this is due to NRA policy, and NOT the bldg owner.
     
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    From the terms linked to by 45crittergitter:
    So, what's the chances that the NRA annual meeting could be considered a "gun show"?
     
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    I'm thinking that the convention center is City of Houston property, and may be prohibited by Texas state preemption law from banning CCW. Anyone know?
     
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    Hm...

    well, there were no checks done when it was held in Reno a few years back.
     
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    Texas law does exempt any city owned or leased property from prohibiting concealed carry. However, sometimes they still check for firearms or will spread misinformation. For example, when they hold the State Fair in Dallas you are legally allowed to carry there but they have wanders and you have to be pulled aside and a Dallas PD officer has to check your CHL and allow you in. Not sure if they would do the same for this or not.
     
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    45crittergitter is correct. The City of Houston cannot restrict carry in city owned buildings unless they are already no CCW zones in state law. Convention centers are not on the list. I'll let you know on the 15 of April when I show up properly attired whether the NRA will allow it or not.
     
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    From http://www.nraam.org
    If they don't allow exhibitors to sell guns or ammo, it's probably not a gun show.

    "The Exhibit Hall will contain one of the largest and best displays of firearms, accessories and related items in the country. Manufacturers and their representatives will be on hand -- you can discuss technical issues, handle arms and equipment and find out all the latest information. Many exhibitors will have items for sale (no firearms or ammunition). Extensive private collections will be displayed by NRA affiliated gun collector clubs. Guides and outfitters will also exhibit."

    I guess if they try to disarm you illegally, the NRA will help defend you?
     
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    That gets back to the "metal detector" rule of concealed carry. If there is a metal detector then you can't carry. If there is no metal detector, you can carry. That is how I determine where it is legal and illegal for me to carry in the PRK.
     
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    I just received an email reply back from the NRA about this issue.

     
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    As long as it isn't posted with a 30.06 sign you should be fine. Has anyone verified if they have a sign or not?
     
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    Nice response from the NRA. Now it's as clear as mud.

    http://www.nraam.org/exhibitor/
     
  24. TexasRifleman

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    That response from NRA is a load of BS.

    Texas SB501 basically says that buildings owned or leased by a government entity may not be posted prohibiting carry unless it's already on the no-no list (jails, courts, schools, etc).

    Text of SB501

    According to the web site http://www.houstonconventionctr.com the convention center does belong to the city and therefore CAN NOT post 30.06 signs.

    Some cities and counties are working under the idea that if a property is leased out (convention center to NRA) then the person leasing (NRA) can post if they wish, but this has not been upheld in court yet. The Texas State Rifle Association is actively looking for cities violating this:

    TSRA letter concerning SB501

    So, if NRA tells you that you can't carry in the convention center because Houston doesn't allow it, that's a lie and shows ignorance of the laws that NRA claims to help to promote.

    There is no legal reason carry would be prohibited during the convention unless NRA wishes it to be that way, period.
     
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    what42, have you replied to the NRA with the true answer? You can carry in that building, although it has been confusing and a pain trying to get cities to comply with the law that was passed in 03 prohibiting cities from posting thier own property. I believe the NRA in simply ignorant of the law in this case, I don't think they are conspiring to prohibit concealed handguns.
     
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