NYS pistols

[Superpsy]

I know there is a thread similar to this one...but I didn't want to hijack it. Below is an email I recently sent to a buddy who lives in OH.

I never realized what a pain in the butt buying a handgun in NYS is. I was thinking sometime soon about getting a fun handgun like a Heritage Roughrider .22 just for plinking and getting used to handgun. But here's what I have to do...first I have to apply for a permit to even own a handgun (100 bucks for background checks etc.) If I get approved I can buy a gun but not possess it (weird) then I have to go to the county courthouse and register the handgun on my permit THEN I can take the handgun home. Is Ohio so crazy? did you have to pay 100 bucks for background checks and stuff?

What are other states like?

 

[marriedguy1]

The last pistol I bought I picked it out, filled out the background check form, go approved, picke dup ammo, went to cashier and paid. No extra charge for the background check. I went straight to the range that day. No courthouse registration or permit to own a handgun or anything like that.

 

[GT]

In CT you have to get a permit to possess a handgun (no permit for long guns).
However, that one permit allows concealed carry EVERYWHERE except a school and Federal facilities.

The permit is effectively "shall issue".

Very easy and useful.


G

 

[Taurus 66]

It's more than that. $110 is closer to the amount. You have to be a NY resident for the past two years or don't bother applying. You need four references (friends, co-workers, but NO family members). All four of your references must be in the county for which you are applying. Cool eh? Then you get fingerprinted, then you wait ... and wait ... and wait.

When you get the permit and go to make a purchase, you take the sales receipt with you to the county clerk's office, they take the serial number on the receipt and type it to the back of the permit, for a small fee of course.

 

[mikeb3185]

new york pistol permit

i am on active duty orders so one of my references had to be my commanding officer. then to buy a handgun you pick one fill out paperwork, turn in your "purchase coupon", pay. then you recieve handgun and immeadiatly drive and secure it. within 5 days take recipt to courthouse where they put it on your permit (at which point you may then carry/shoot), and give you a new purchase coupon. oh and dont forget "add on fees"


also was told within the nest year nys pistol permits are changed to a drivers license sized card

 

[Deanimator]

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=p...81&as_maxd=2&as_maxm=8&as_maxy=2006&safe=off&

In Ohio I:

Go to the club, see what's advertised on the for sale board. If the seller isn't at the range, I call the number on the ad. We either meet at the club or at his house. I give him money. He gives me a handgun... or two or three.

OR

I go to a monthly club meeting. It's one of the two meetings where there's a swapmeet. I see something I like. I give the owner money. He gives me a handgun... or two or three.

None of this accounts for haggling over price...

 

[Standing Wolf]

Here in Colorado, the tough parts are:

1.) Choosing the gun
2.) Figuring out how to pay for the gun
3.) Hanging around the gun shop up to half an hour while the "background check" is being conducted

 

[chaim]

Wow, I thought MD was bad. $100 for your permit background check and then a trip to the courthouse after purchase!?! Is this for every purchase or just for the first? If that is every purchase I'd have spent a couple thousand+ on background checks alone over the past 6 years or so. I guess it must cut back on buying something to see if you like it and then trading/selling it for something else if you decide against keeping it.

Here in MD for handguns and "regulated" long guns (so called "assault rifles for the most part) you pay for a state police background check (I don't remember the exact amount but it is pretty negligable, something like $8 or $15), then you wait the required waiting period (just over a week). Of course, the gun does have to be on the state police approved handgun roster so many guns aren't available and many new guns take a while to become available, and they also have to have a fired shell casing provided by the manufacturer which also takes quite a few guns out of consideration for purchase in MD.

 

[Joe7cri]

I received my New York Permit in 4 mos., and I was very happy because I was told it would be close to 6 mos. Got the letter in the mail, went to the court house that day to pick up permit, when to the store that evening to pick up pistol. It was like receiving an early birthday present

 

[Azrael256]

Around here... Go to store, pick out gun, show CHL, pay for gun, drive home. The BS session with the shop employees (as mandated by Texas law) is longer than the purchase process.

 

[atlctyslkr]

In Georgia:

1) Pick out gun at shop
2) Pass NICS (if permit holder NICS not required)
3) Pay for gun and then it's yours to take home, shoot at the range, or any other lawful purpose

(Just don't take it to Wal-Mart or you might get hit on the public gathering law )

 

[Arcli9ht]

What county in NY are you in?

In Otsego (and delaware and schoharie) it's different.

The permit was 109 bucks to get, 10 for the permit, 99 for the background check. 11 days after handing in my refs, I had the unrestricted carry permit in my hand. My refs were from the county I moved from, not the county I was in. I had my two former scoutmasters, an old codger friend, and the head of the local civic association as references. Now, as long as I live in Otsego, this permit is good for life. No renewals. That is the reason for the purchase coupons, so an old permit holder can't be a convicted felon and then add pistols to their permit. Doesn't do anything about the ones they already have.

Procedure to buy a pistol:
1. Call FFL arrange details, have him order the gun(s).
2. On the way to the FFL (on a weekday) drop by the county sheriffs office, pay 3 or 6 bucks for the purchase coupons.
3. Drive to FFL (3 hours... a long trip, but he is the only dealer in the state that I trust)
4. Fill out NICS, get approved.
5. Fork over cash (the hard part).
6. Drive home and go shooting.
7. Within 30 days, mail registration info to the sheriffs office, or drive there again and give them the info in person. (and swing by the ommegang brewery on the way home.)

My understanding is that except for step 2 or 7 (which takes all of two hours) this procedure is no different from what it would be in any other state.

After moving from NYC, I am pretty happy up here. If land values in VT were lower however...

 

[gunsmith]

private party or store?

look in newspaper for an AK (or a pistol of some kind) for 3 or 4 hundred call the guy or gal up give them $ and drive home with gun, some people insist on seeing your DL to make sure yer a NV resident...if you want you can have the state of NV run a check to make sure yer alright but there aint no obligation too.

Or if I go to a store I gives the guy some money, show him my ccw and take the gun home.
No background check if you have a ccw, no waiting time even if you don't...instant background check.
Hanging out and jawing takes longer then buying every time.

And beieve it or not some of my old pals from my ol home town (NYC)
wonder why I don't wanna live back in the big apple.

 

[Taurus 66]

My refs were from the county I moved from, not the county I was in.

I think this question is directed at me. That's what I meant when I was talking about county references. It's just you fall under a different type of circumstance. So what I said and what you are saying are one in the same.

I'm in "Maggie Brooks" land, better known as Monroe County. One thing I forgot (if I may add) is that during the process of turning in the application, fingerprintings, etc, the county clerk at this time is going to take the money order, and it MUST be a MO ... no cash, no debit card, no personal check. To further step up the difficulty by a factor of 1, it cannot be just any MO. It MUST be from the USPS. MOs from stores, banks, or credit unions are unacceptable. I kid you not.

 

[whm1974]

As bad as they say IL is it way better then NY. At least outside Chinago and/or Cook county.

Here If I want to buy a handgun I can just go to a shop, pick one out, fill out the paperwork, and pick it up three days later. Next day for longarm. And I need a FOID card which is only 5 bucks.

-Bill

 

[ugaarguy]

Wow, I never realized how nice it is to be a Ga. native and stationed in Idaho instead of somewhere else. I need to get my Idaho permit so I don't have to do NICS, but that's never taken more than 5 mins for them to call it in. In Idaho I go to the store, pick out what I want during the legally mandated pre purchase BS session, hand them a copy of my orders with my military ID card, fill out paper work, let them take 2 or 3 mins to call NICS, get approved, pay, commence the legally mandated post purchase BS session, drive home. In Ga its much the same but substitute Ga drivers license for orders and military ID, or add carry permit to GADL and skip NICS as well. Here in Idaho I also have the hear what someone in the squadron has for sale and see if I want it option.

 

[CNYCacher]

The $100+ is only to get your permit, which you need before buying your first gun. I am still waiting on my permit, most likely for another 3 months and 7 days

and swing by the ommegang brewery on the way home.

Three Philosophers with that dark chocolate they sell there, MMMM-BOY!
Rare Vos ain't that bad either!

 

[Bulldozer]

As for long arms in NY, there is no waiting period. Just a NICS check.

It's the handguns that they create an Olympic hurdle course for!

Of course, they still have that silly 10-rd magazine clip law in effect too.

 

[KaiserBen]

I just had to fill out the 4473, wait for the background check, and hand over a purchase permit. NC isn't the best, but it isn't bad.

 

[TonyB]

In NY is varies by county..I'm in Rensselaer county,not bad compared to neighboring ones.If the pistol clerk is in the office,I can get the gun the same day($3 fee)..To et my restictions off my permit,I took an extra NRA course and wrote a letter to the Judge..not too bad.I think alot of it has to do with the pistol clerk..she's AWESOME!

 

[Essex County]

What part of VERMONT don't you guys understand? Essex

 

[Prof. A. Wickwire]

In NY is varies by county..I'm in Rensselaer county,not bad compared to neighboring ones.If the pistol clerk is in the office,I can get the gun the same day($3 fee)..To et my restictions off my permit,I took an extra NRA course and wrote a letter to the Judge..not too bad.I think alot of it has to do with the pistol clerk..she's AWESOME!

TonyB,

You aren't kidding. Joyce is the best friend a CCL holder in Rensselaer County can have. I called her with a question and she called me back at home with the info.

Sincerely,

Prof. A. Wickwire

 

[MLB]

It does cost a bit to get a concealed carry permit in NYS, but you do need to weigh that against the fact it is a lifetime permit (unless revoked). No yearly or reoccurring fees.

Well, it costs a couple of bucks to add a handgun to your permit, but that's not even ammo money.

 

[Lupinus]

here you go "I want that one and (X amount) of ammo for it" fill out paper work, get approved, pay, have fun.