Obama:Guns No,Porn Yes

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We should have both porn and gun shops near the children. The title of the thread makes it seem as if there is something wrong with porn. Is there?
Dude what is wrong with you? :banghead:
Have you ever had a child? You want a Messed up kid you show them porn. I know I have a really bad off younger brother that got exposed to porn at an early age.

Show a kid a gun with some education and nothing happens gee go figure!

I have a porn shop near my house and yes they most certianly do draw all sorts of unsavory types. I also have a gun shop near my house and though you do see a suspicious person once in a while they are not interested in molesting my kid and I have no problem taking my kid there.

Give me one reason we should allow porn shops near children please!:cuss:
 
We should have both porn and gun shops near the children. The title of the thread makes it seem as if there is something wrong with porn. Is there?

Not for adults in private. For kids, yes there is.
 
Where's the party that realizes neither issue is federal? These are local zoning issues that have bupkus to do with any enumerated power.
 
What about gun shops staffed by nekkid women? I guess we'd need to restrict those to the surface of the moon :D
 
Who buys porn at a store anymore anyway? I would've thought the internet would've wiped them out.
 
Have you ever had a child? You want a Messed up kid you show them porn. I know I have a really bad off younger brother that got exposed to porn at an early age.

And this is exactly what so many of the anti-gun folks say all the time. My cousin's kid found the gun and shot himself, guns are bad and we should ban them.

Stores, whether they sell guns, porn, liquor, or car parts, will attract customers they are designed to attract. A skanky store attracts skanky customers. We've all seen the auto parts stores that look like chop shops, the liquor stores with drunken bums vomiting in the alley alongside, and the gun shops that stock nothing but Jennings pistols and seem to always be full of gang-bangers. On the flip side, there are the places like Fascinations, a perfect example of a clean, professional, respectable "adult entertainment" store.

Basically, if you want freedom for yourself, you've got to let everyone else have it, even if you don't particularly like what they do with it.
 
The big problem is that it seems that allot of people seem to want the government to make their decisions for them and several people want to run everybody's life for them from guns, adult enter., to what we eat.

I don't get the new socialistic "thing" them seems to the way of this countries future. From the national to the local governments.

Live and let live.

Basically, if you want freedom for yourself, you've got to let everyone else have it, even if you don't particularly like what they do with it.

Very well put.
 
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Have you ever had a child? You want a Messed up kid you show them porn. I know I have a really bad off younger brother that got exposed to porn at an early age.

And this is exactly what so many of the anti-gun folks say all the time. My cousin's kid found the gun and shot himself, guns are bad and we should ban them.
Ian that is a good media tactic, Partial quote on your part. And why would anti gun folks say
Have you ever had a child? You want a Messed up kid you show them porn. I know I have a really bad off younger brother that got exposed to porn at an early age.
I have never heard any talk of porn from an anti gun group.
let me negate your post with the rest of mine.
Show a kid a gun with some education and nothing happens gee go figure!

Basically, if you want freedom for yourself, you've got to let everyone else have it, even if you don't particularly like what they do with it.
I agree so long as it does not offend or harm unsuspecting individuals like children(who have no idea what it is) There are things that can indeed wait until people are older.

Back to my thinking sorry but there is zero reason a porn shop should be allowed near a school(colledges excluded)
 
Please don't veer OT.Obama must be stopped.Concentrate on this Socialist's idea's for our future gun right's:

Obama outlined his anti-gun plan that includes increased penalties for the interstate transportation of firearms. The maximum penalty now for bringing a gun across the border is 10 years in prison. Obama is proposing to make it a felony for a gun owner whose firearm was stolen from his residence which causes harm to another person if that weapon was not securely stored in that home. [!!!]

He's proposing restricting gun purchases to one weapon a month and banning the sale of firearms at gun shows except for "antique" weapons. Obama is also proposing increasing the licensing fee to obtain a federal firearms license.

He's also seeking a ban on police agencies from reselling their used weapons even if those funds are used to buy more state-of-the-art weapons for their agencies. Obama wants only those over 21 who've passed a basic course to be able to buy or own a firearm.

He's proposing that all federally licensed gun dealers sell firearms in a storefront and not from their homes while banning their business from being within five miles of a school or a park. He's also banning the sale of 'junk" handguns like the popular Saturday Night Specials.

Obama is requiring that all people working at a gun dealer undergo a criminal background check. He's also asking that gun manufacturers be required to develop safety measures that permit only the original owner of the firearm to operate the weapon purchased.

Additionally, he wants an increase of the funds for schools to teach anger management skills for youth between the ages of 5-13. Obama is also seeking to increase the federal taxes by 500 percent on the sale of firearm, ammunition [sic] -- weapons he says are most commonly used in firearm deaths.
 
I agree we dont need the government to make the choice for us. If you think porn is wrong then dont purchase it. I wish such an industry never existed as pornography; but since it cannot be statisticaly associated with negative violent consequences you dont have government grounds to ban it. The government's job is to maintain order not think for you. "Live Free or Die" as the folks in New Hampshire say.
 
Guns: constitutionally (hence federally) protected

Porn: notsomuch

However, there is a good argument to be made that neither should be the realm of the fed.gov (except perhaps for the Fed to continue to protect the first).
 
Guns: constitutionally (hence federally) protected

Porn: notsomuch
What of the 1st amendment?

As Thurgood Marshall said "If the First Amendment means anything, it means that a State has no business telling a man sitting in his own house what books he may read or what films he may watch."
 
Where's the party that realizes neither issue is federal? These are local zoning issues that have bupkus to do with any enumerated power.

A good point. What does the proximity of gun shops to schools have to do with interstate commerce?
 
Soybomb I could not agree more free speach is exactly that. However where do we draw the line? Actualy we shouldnt have to draw a line folks should know what is offensive and extreem and keep that to them selves per se. For example we should not have laws saying we cant stand around and call gay folk fags or black the "n" word or women "bit**es" bescuse we know its offensive. Unfortunatly in this selfish world we live in some think only of them selves and could care less of others. And because of that there is a crowd that thinks they have to protect every one from everything in the political world to me they are the liberals who frequently use the weak as an emotional motivator to pass all sorts of laws. Which when you look at the most basic laws its already covered. For example you can not commit murder so lets ad on murder with(pick a weapon of choice) and repeat this step for every weapon you can think of. Sure every one is free to speak anything or print anything they want but they have a price to pay for being offensive.
I hope some of this makes sense it does to me right now in my sleep deprived state I might come back and reword some later.
 
A good point. What does the proximity of gun shops to schools have to do with interstate commerce?
Hey, you never know. Maybe there's a problem with kids in Kansas City, MO walking to nearby gun shops in Kansas City, KS.
 
Obama is neither sick, perverted, or twisted.

To claim he is such is only distorting our own knowledge about our enemy.

He is actually extremely smart and wily like an old fox who had been avoiding hunters for months.

He knows what is the opium of the masses. And he knows how to keep the masses ignorant regarding grave issues.

Over the years, porn has been one of the greatest brainwashing agents in human history, much greater than opium itself.

Please allow me to explain

When the British imperialists entered China in the 19th century, they forced the Qing Emperor Daoguang to sign a treaty that allows the trade of both porn and opium. The British also sent agents (Chinese traitors) into the dynasty's main armies, to introduce the mostly peasant population in the army to smoke opium and use pornography.

The effects of this can be certainly seen during the Taiping Rebellion. The Taiping rebels failed to overthrow the Qing because the ordinary peasants and soldiers alike feared that they will lose their opium and porn once the Taipings unified the country, destroyed the Qing Dynasty, and kicked the foreigners out of the country. Therefore, in the provinces of Hunan and Huabei, even though they were occupied by the Taiping Army, their citizens still sided with the dynasty. In Hunan, a majority of the peasants joined the Qing forces.
The Taipings also failed to capture Shanghai because the city is mostly run by the puppets of foreign corporations who had been brainwashed and totally dependant on porn, opium, and escorts. Once they realized that the Taipings were a threat to their "freedoms", they raised countless money and funds to help the foreigners fight the Taipings.

The Taiping rebellion occupied vast swaths of China that were NOT under Qing or foreign influence. However, any Chinese at that time who even had a SLIGHT bit of Western influence refused to join the Taiping cause. Most of the Confucian mandarins and scholars sided with the Qing Dynasty in suppressing the rebellion because all of these high class gentry men enjoyed "exclusive luxuries", and by now, you should all know what these exclusive luxuries are. No way were they going to give up their dainty call girls with tiny feet or their treasured opium pipes to live a life of hard work and helping others. No way were they going to give up their nice little opera houses and all of the girls dancing for them.

So what is my point exactly? Has brainwashing done it's damage here?

Pornography was there to stay, and in Guomingdang China, the Zhongyang Zhenfu(Nationalist Government) promoted pornography and many of the funds given to them by the United States, Germany and Britain to equip their armies with modern weaponry were used to hire the best and most exotic prostitutes for their officers. By now everybody who studies political science should know that these funds given to them by the various Western countries were not used to benefit the Guomingdang regime. It was meant for them(the Guomingdang) to purchase objects of moral decadence so these other tiny foreign countries such as Germany, Japan, and UK would finally have a way to control China and it's vast population with only limited military resources. These countries already seen what happened to their forces in Africa when they faced lightly armed but extremely determined fighters. Imperialism pays a tough price. The ones who win the chess game of imperialism wins the jackpot essentially, a nation, it's resources, and unlimited free labor. Those who lose the chess game becomes crushed and broken beyond repair, and they themselves WILL become the target of imperialism by their arrogant and sneery neighbors. This is pecking order on a vast social scale. And it is an example of Social Darwinism being applied so thoroughly that not even a millimeter of land is overlooked.

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So how to control a nation as large as China, with it's vast population, and history and culture so deep that most are willing to die than to be subjected to a foreign rule? Just how? Militarily, any foreign foe would be crushed, despite his technological innovations. Military invasions would stand no chance against an entire citizenry mobilized. Japanese Emperor Hideyoshi lost over 100,000 men in a futile attempt to invade China in 1542.
The modern imperialists are smarter. Brainwashing the citizenry proved to be much more efficient than outright aggression. And the use of porn and opium, two of the most dangerously addictive and detrimental substances in known history, proved to be a snare that many people failed to realize.
Thus a great lion, being shot at and poked at with spears, will charge, roar and decimate his attackers. However, a great lion who has licked a plate of opium laid out for him by cunning trappers, will find the substance extremely satisfying, and he will go after it, seeking for more of that strange substance, until he realizes that he has fallen into the trapper's pit.

When the Communists finally liberated China in 1949, they realized that destruction of the foreign menace will also involve great logistic and educational planning. The root of all the peasant ignorance and their gullibility has to be eliminated first. The opiates of the masses have to be torn up by the roots and burned, and the message has to be sent out to everybody so they will understand if someone is just trying to be their friend or to brainwash them to turn against their own country.

So what is it that I am trying to tell you, my fellow Conservatives?

Barack Obama himself knows the precise and extremely complicated mechanisms of social history. He has even included the words "social darwinism" in his speeches and texts. He understands how to instantly ensnare and control and entire population without losing money and manpower and possibly human lives. He understands how proud Americans are of their heritage, and that most Americans are decended, not only physically but psychologically, from the same stock that stood so valiantly against global tyranny at Lexington, Concorde, and Bunker Hill. Yet, gaining unlimited control of such a populace will elevate him to a new status of power few men have ever enjoyed. Fighting them and trying to conquer them outright will result in horrendous losses for him. As a person who has studied and understood the workings of social darwinism and imperialism and knkow them so intimately, he will resort back to an extremely old and effective tactic. Entice them, lure them, make them smile, make them follow you, make them act on your orders, make them turn against each other, make them believe that if they lose their material goods such as electronic entertainment, they will suffer, so make them buy more. And more. And more. And more. Place more shows onto the media. More Desperate Housewives. More Wife Swaps. More Lost, and American Idol, and Ultra Dance.

They can't fight against that. The founders used their longrifles and cartridge boxes against outright tyranny. How can arms be used against electronic enticement and harmless advertising? Better yet, make all of their children attend public education. It is a perfect chance to turn them against their conservative traditions.

And present American culture is ripe with such potentials. There are Playboys everywhere, and Hustlers, and Howard Stearns. It is just a manner of getting them into peoples' heads more efficiently and making the material more readily available.
However, there is the problem with social mutations. If there is Social Darwinism and Social Evolution, there is Social Mutations. Once a while, you will get the fighter, the resister, the fearless leader. The person who throws away all attempst to brainwash him and return his beloved country to it's roots and traditions. Abnd likewise, brainwashing is so effective, these mutants can also effectively "brainwash" many people to join their cause. At it's peak, the Taiping Movement had almost 5 million fighting members and over 7 million sympathizers. And even though they failed to destroy the Qing Dynasty and it's foreign puppet-string holders, they inflicted a mortal blow to the Dynasty, and the Dynasty did die from it's complications 40 years later.

The solution: get rid of the roots of resistance. As a student of such global political agendas, Obama is aware of Chinese politics as well as 19th century European imperialist tactics. He wants to avoid the mistakes that the imperialist made, and in the meantime, increase his own profits and power.
Imposing gun control is the best solution. Not only restrict guns, but make it so that the already brainwashed population will hate them and loathe them. Therefore, if a Social Mutation occurs sometime in the furture, the mutation will no longer be able to put up a significant resistance.

It is the picture perfect environment to start a dictatorship, twenty-first century style. The raw materials are already there. The elements are already present in the beakers, test tubes and pipettes. All it takes is a mad scientist, an innovative genius, a cunning tactitian, to mix these elements together and at the right proportions to create hellfire.


I want to thank everybody for taking the time to read.
 
Porn = 1st amendment

Guns = 2nd amendment

I say let those establishments (and any others) be anywhere they want. It's not like the kids are going to be entering either a porn or gun shop and buying stuff. Heck, the kids probably can't even GET past the front door of the porn shop. People need to stop being so touchy feely. Yes, little Johnny, there is indeed guns and porn in the real world. Get used to it.
 
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