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Officer hit in buttocks when own gun goes off during A-C-C game

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by gunsmith, Mar 13, 2004.

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  1. gunsmith

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    (oops) ( I guess it's ok for cops to carry concealed at sporting events cause they are much safer around guns then you or I,who would never be able to carry at NC sporting events like this)
    http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=1708932
    Greensboro, North Carolina-AP -- Police say an off-duty police officer's concealed gun went off during the Atlantic Coast Conference quarterfinal game between Maryland and Wake Forest on Friday night.

    The gun accidentally discharged about midway through the second half, slightly injuring the officer in the buttocks. Police say no other injuries were reported.

    Laura Mullinax, a watch operations specialist with the Greensboro Police Department, calls the incident a "purely accidental discharge." Police say the officer was from another state, but would not say which one.

    Authorities say the officer was in violation of North Carolina law, and an investigation is ongoing. Maryland won the game, 87-to-86.
     
  2. DigMe

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    I don't understand your statement in light of the fact that they clearly state that he was breaking the law and that there is an investigation. Maybe he thought it was ok but apparently no one else did.

    brad cook
     
  3. David Roberson

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    I think gunsmith's point is that the gun-banners say that only cops should have guns because they are highly trained in their use and are safe around them, whereas us average serfs are not. In this case at least, here's a cop who: a) either didn't know the law or else simply didn't care about it; and b) clearly didn't have adequate gun-handling skills to be carrying a concealed weapon. A handgun doesn't just "go off;" it was fired either through deliberate choice or negligence.

    To shed some additional light on this incident for non-NC residents: In this state it's illegal to carry concealed at any event for which there is paid admission.
     
  4. DigMe

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    Ah, ok my bad. It's early! I thought he was saying that the guy didn't get in trouble.

    brad cook
     
  5. GunWares

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    I wonder what brand of pistol it was? :cool:
     
  6. MishMash

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    Whoa!
    Good thing these guys are so highly trained. That way they get only "slightly injured" when they shoot themselves in the butt.

    I feel much safer now.
     
  7. RED-DOG 40

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    I was informed by a retiired police chief , also a CCW instructor, that most officers rarely practice/train with there weapons until it is qualifying time. And then (people ) say, we are not responsible enough to have the RKBA , when we constantly are practicing and updating ourselves with our weapons. I am confident in saying this from what I have read on THR and being around other CCW members. :D
     
  8. Billmanweh

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    funny
     
  9. Nightfall

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    Another gun injures another innocent user. When will we learn these firearms can't be trusted! :rolleyes:
     
  10. Preacherman

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    Your new PC police force at work - turning the other cheek? :D
     
  11. jsalcedo

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    Man charged in coliseum shooting

    3-13-04

    By Russ Rizzo, Staff Writer


    Updated 2:55 p.m.

    GREENSBORO -- Darren I. Sanders, an off-duty officer who accidentally shot himself inside the coliseum Friday night, was charged today with a misdemeanor weapons offense.

    Sanders, 37, was treated for minor injuries and released from Moses Cone Hospital, Greensboro police Capt. Gary Hastings said.

    Sanders shot himself in the right buttocks with a .40-caliber Glock, a popular handgun for police departments throughout the country, Hastings said.

    Police charged Sanders on Saturday with illegally carrying a pistol into an assembly where admission is charged.

    Sanders, an off-duty homicide detective from the Baltimore Police Department, accidentally shot himself during an ACC basketball game Friday night between University of Maryland and Wake Forest University, police said.

    According to Hastings, Sanders stood up to cheer at the game and adjusted the gun as he sat down, causing it to fire.

    The gun was in a holster inside his pants and did not have a manual safety, Hastings said. However, it's equipped with a "safe-action" on the trigger designed to make firing by accident more difficult, Hastings said.

    Matt Brown, director of the Greensboro Coliseum, said Sanders did not have permission to carry a gun inside. Greensboro police Chief David Wray said he contacted the Baltimore Police Department to complain about the incident.

    After the shooting, Baltimore Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti told officers that Sanders was a security guard for him.

    Hastings said police are still trying to determine if Sanders was at the game with Bisciotti.

    The shooting prompted coliseum officials to begin using metal-detecting wands to inspect all people entering the coliseum Saturday.

    Contact Russ Rizzo at 373-7021 or rrizzo@news-record.com
     
  12. tc300mag1

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    imagine that it was a glock :)
     
  13. 7.62FullMetalJacket

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    Well, police are better qualified for this activity; do not try this at home :rolleyes:

    Now the owner is vouching for the moron as if it is OK as long as he was on a "security" detail. :scrutiny:
     
  14. P95Carry

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    Oh why, oh why ... does a gun always ''go off'' .... damn those reporters. It is ''DISCHARGED'' ..... by means intentional or unintentional ... sheesh ... :banghead: :banghead:

    On a less ''ranty'' note .....
    Hahaha .... so this guy has four buttocks eh, two each side (or more??? :p ) .... so he would have a wider choice to shoot at. Hahaha! :D

    (harrum .. sorry!).:eek:
     
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    they really should move the safety to somewhere other than the trigger

    :neener:
     
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    The Glock is not an idiot proof design.


    That's why we Glock owners prefer that idiots such as this don't purchase one. :neener:
     
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    glock

    glocks are not idiot proof, they are idiotic.
     
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    (LEO) Man charged in coliseum shooting

    Man charged in coliseum shooting

    3-13-04

    By Russ Rizzo, Staff Writer

    Updated 2:55 p.m.

    GREENSBORO -- Darren I. Sanders, an off-duty officer who accidentally shot himself inside the coliseum Friday night, was charged today with a misdemeanor weapons offense.

    Sanders, 37, was treated for minor injuries and released from Moses Cone Hospital, Greensboro police Capt. Gary Hastings said.

    Sanders shot himself in the right buttocks with a .40-caliber Glock, a popular handgun for police departments throughout the country, Hastings said.

    Police charged Sanders on Saturday with illegally carrying a pistol into an assembly where admission is charged.

    Sanders, an off-duty homicide detective from the Baltimore Police Department, accidentally shot himself during an ACC basketball game Friday night between University of Maryland and Wake Forest University, police said.

    According to Hastings, Sanders stood up to cheer at the game and adjusted the gun as he sat down, causing it to fire.

    The gun was in a holster inside his pants and did not have a manual safety, Hastings said. However, it's equipped with a "safe-action" on the trigger designed to make firing by accident more difficult, Hastings said.

    Matt Brown, director of the Greensboro Coliseum, said Sanders did not have permission to carry a gun inside. Greensboro police Chief David Wray said he contacted the Baltimore Police Department to complain about the incident.

    After the shooting, Baltimore Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti told officers that Sanders was a security guard for him.

    Hastings said police are still trying to determine if Sanders was at the game with Bisciotti.

    The shooting prompted coliseum officials to begin using metal-detecting wands to inspect all people entering the coliseum Saturday.
     
  19. Travis McGee

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    "The gun was in a holster inside his pants and did not have a manual safety, Hastings said. However, it's equipped with a "safe-action" on the trigger designed to make firing by accident more difficult, Hastings said."

    Glock....

    Some think it's sort of like carrying a cocked and locked 1911, with the safety off. The 1911 won't go off either, unless your finger or something else contacts the trigger.....
     
  20. PATH

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    Never mind the misdemeanor, how is he going to live down shooting himself in the hind quarters. Thankfully he is okay but that was piss poor gun handling, no?

    The officer should be subject to the same laws as everone else in this instance. It is also a fortunate happenstance that a round did not strike someone other than the officer. Remember, don't bring a firearm to aplace where it is not legal regardless of your status as A LEO! No special dispensation for this chap. He messed up and should take his lumps just as anyone else would! Obey the law!
     
  21. Abominable No-Man

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    It's funny, in a sick kind of way. Then again, from some of my personal experiences, it's not so hard to believe. It's my personal belief that probably 95% (conservatively estimated, too) of cops aren't really into guns. A smaller percentage can't shoot very well. Maybe it's a sign of the times.

    There are lots of cops who are into guns and who are very good marksmen, but IMO they are the exception rather than the rule. Several years ago, I had the occasion to be in the right place at the right time, when a little cross-training was going on with a local SWAT team and a MP
    SRT unit. As it happened, one of the SWAT team guys was performing the PMI for the M4. Don't know if he was joking or not, but I overheard a quote that went something like "and this is called the forward assist, but we haven't been told what it's for yet.":eek:

    ANM
     
  22. glocksman

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    Really?
    Care to expand on this 'observation'? :rolleyes:
     
  23. Standing Wolf

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    Anybody else would have been hit with a felony.
     
  24. larry_minn

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    I carry a Glock regularly. I have used Uncle Mikes swede holster (very soft) and NEVER had a problem. Next thing to Mex carry. If THAT won't cause a ND without my putting finger on trigger nothing will. HE messed up.
     
  25. WR Olsen

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    "Never mind the misdemeanor, how is he going to live down shooting himself in the hind quarters. "

    I will not mention the department (which is far fromwhere I presently live)but several years ago an officer named Sharp managed to discharge a round while he was holstering his pistol.

    For the rest of his career he was known to friends and others as "Sharp Shooter"
     
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