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Officials in CT stunned by "civil disobedience"

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That sounds like really good news (would have been better if there had been ZERO) but have any more credible news sources picked this up? I couldn't find a link to where Blaze got the story.
 
Glenn Beck picked up on the story and reported it on his radio show as well as his site.

http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/02/13...icut-gun-owners-defy-new-assault-weapon-laws/

The FreeRepublic, AR15.com and other pro-gun and conservative and alternative news sites have all picked up the "Blaze" story.

“This is amazing. Lead story on The Blaze right now: officials in Connecticut stunned by what could be a massive statewide act of civil disobedience,” Glenn said on radio this morning. “I want you to remember: This is Connecticut. This is New England. This is provincial. These are not cowboys. These are hardcore liberals for the most part. Even the conservatives are liberals in Connecticut.”

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Blaze probably picked up on this story and then added their own twist to it.


"Dan Haar: Untold Thousands Flout Gun Registration Law"

http://articles.courant.com/2014-02...1_assault-weapons-rifles-gun-registration-law



""I honestly thought from my own standpoint that the vast majority would register," said Sen. Tony Guglielmo, R-Stafford, the ranking GOP senator on the legislature's public safety committee. "If you pass laws that people have no respect for and they don't follow them, then you have a real problem.""

Sounds like Civil Disobedience to me
 
This will certainly be something to watch.

Here's hoping we have more massive, more public, and more defiant non-compliance and that the law is simply shown to be toothless.

Nothing says "by the people, for the people" more than universal refusal to adhere to a bad law.
 
Lets just hope the lawyers and prosecutors don't follow up and charge these American people.
 
Actually, if they try and charge and prosecute somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 people, including rounding them up via gun shop records or whatever else, that could be quite a boon to our cause.

The publicity would be HELLACIOUS for them. Literally, giving the lie to every "no-one's coming for your guns" platitude the banners and grabbers ever told.

They won't do it, of course. It would be death for them. Which puts our side in the very enviable position of having defeated a bad gun law through non-violent civil disobedience. We might just stand on the brink of a VERY powerful new movement in our cause.
 
More likely, they cherrypick a few folk (the least savory of the lot, and therefore the least sympathetic to Ma and Pa 'Murrica) for prosecution and let the rest slowly lose their nerve over time. We NEED them to do something dramatic one way or another, and they know that. So they do nothing dramatic that's sympathetic.

Leastways, that's what I'd do if I wuz them.
 
It would be better that our side take the lead and sue the state over this instead of waiting for a few examples to be made to frighten the rest into compliance.

If, as this shows, the state has made a bad faith effort to help the citizens comply with the law or those subject to regulation have rejected the law then the advantage to our side needs to be pressed.
 
As for validity, it was reported on the tv news the other night. Stunned is a good word. It will be interesting to see how they proceed to enforce this law. Maybe they'll wait until it clears the courts before they start enforcement? Why enforce a law that may very well be overturned anyway? That would be a huge waste of money and egg on their faces. Very interesting, indeed.
 
Civil disobedience sounds like a good idea right about now.

And remember it's much harder to illegally confiscate what isn't registered. :)

Edit: Well said SleazyRider!
 
Sam1911 said:
Actually, if they try and charge and prosecute somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 people, including rounding them up via gun shop records or whatever else, that could be quite a boon to our cause.

The publicity would be HELLACIOUS for them. Literally, giving the lie to every "no-one's coming for your guns" platitude the banners and grabbers ever told.

They won't do it, of course. It would be death for them. Which puts our side in the very enviable position of having defeated a bad gun law through non-violent civil disobedience. We might just stand on the brink of a VERY powerful new movement in our cause.
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Very good post Sam. I think you are correct, I'll be keeping an eye on this.
 
Sam1911 said:
Actually, if they try and charge and prosecute somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 people, including rounding them up via gun shop records or whatever else, that could be quite a boon to our cause.

The publicity would be HELLACIOUS for them. Literally, giving the lie to every "no-one's coming for your guns" platitude the banners and grabbers ever told.

They won't do it, of course. It would be death for them. Which puts our side in the very enviable position of having defeated a bad gun law through non-violent civil disobedience. We might just stand on the brink of a VERY powerful new movement in our cause.
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I agree completely, but I think that the ones doing the gun grabbing would frame it differently. I think they'd say that they aren't going after the law abiding's guns, just the criminals who didn't comply with their "commonsense" legislation.
 
If the state does decided to prosecute NH may have tens of thousands fewer gun owners. I know I wouldn't mess around playing politics with an issue that could turn me into a felon. A felony convictions is a "scarlet letter" that follower a person for life.
 
it is a dangerous game. i think CT is out over their skis. the plan almost certainly was to repeal drug laws first, then you would have space in prisons for all the new firearm felons.
 
I think they'd say that they aren't going after the law abiding's guns, just the criminals who didn't comply with their "commonsense" legislation.
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FIFTY TO ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND "criminals" made overnight? Sure. That will go over real well.

Not getting compliance doesn't create a bunch of evil-doer felons. It simply is a refutation of a bad law that the people WILL NOT follow. When you must prosecute everyone (or some huge fraction of society) prosecution means nothing. It loses all legitimacy.

For one thing, they CAN'T. They can't prosecute everyone, they don't have the resources to even begin. It would be a decade before they even got all the court dates lined up. Since they can't prosecute everyone, they won't prosecute anyone.

If they start subpoenaing 4473s from gun shops to go find all the gun owners who didn't register, Wayne LaPierre might as well move his office to Hartford because the NRA will have a constant stream of photo-ops of "gov't thugs" rounding up good people and confiscating their guns. It would be the "OH NO! They were RIGHT!" moment for so many Americans who've always claimed the NRA was a bunch of fear mongers and alarmists stirring up trouble to get donations.

They won't hand us such a great lever to use against them. If they did this, the NRA'd likely break 8 million members by 2015.
 
The state officials talk about sending out a reminder notice to gun owners.

If they had this ability to notify them via letters, why didn't they do it in the first place, rather than take the chance of creating criminals?

As a permit holder, who's address they damn well know, I was never officially notified. They took all kinds of short cuts and now it's coming back to bite them in the butt. They relied on stories in the printed media, which not everybody reads, or could say they didn't see. This is on their own heads.
 
i was with you up to here:
Since they can't prosecute everyone, they won't prosecute anyone.
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they certainly will prosecute several
 
The trick will be convincing folks to hold firm and risk a lot -- a very great deal, I understand -- to still refuse to comply, even after the notices go out.
 
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