OH Governor Keynote Speaker at Pro-Gun Grassroots Event!

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For those that don't know, this is absolutely huge for a state like Ohio that has had anti-gun Governors for many, many, many years that would never give firearm advocates the time of day...

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Ohioans For Concealed Carry is thrilled to announce that Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has accepted our invitation to serve as keynote speaker at OFCC's fourth annual family picnic, the Party in the Park. His office has confirmed that the Governor is eager to speak to our members and supporters at this great event being held on the afternoon of Saturday, September 29th in Liberty Park of Powell, Ohio (just north of Columbus).

OFCC is also pleased to welcome several other distinguished guests that are scheduled to speak to our membership. Ohio Representative Michael DeBose (D-Cleveland), who was formerly an opponent of concealed carry until he experienced firsthand an armed mugging attempt that convinced him to obtain a Concealed Handgun License will join Tactical Defense Institute (TDI) proprietor and past OFCC Award Winner John Benner. TDI is one of the leading firearms and tactical training facilities in the country.

Also speaking will be Brian Patrick from the University of Toledo. Professor Patrick has presented at numerous pro-firearm events, such as the 2006 Firearms Law and Second Amendment Symposium held at the George Mason School of Law in Arlington, VA.

Tickets are still available for this wonderful family-friendly event! We welcome all like-minded friends to share in great food, fellowship, and a chance to interact with the first outwardly pro-gun Governor to be elected in several years to the highest office in Ohio.

Dozens of excellent door prizes will be given to attendees, including a brand new handgun!

Tickets are available by CLICKING HERE!
 
I plan to attend

But I cant wait to see how the Highway Patrol who will be handling security deal with all of us legally armed folks, both concealed and unconcealed! The usual directive to return your gun to your car isn't gonna fly too well with us! :neener:
 
I do hope that people will not create incidents that would backlash on this significant indication of hope for Ohio. It would be shortsighted. It's okay to win.
 
Makarov, I understand your concern, and trust me... this won't be an issue. When we contacted the Governor's office with the invite (and a lot of persuasion since the beginning of the year), they knew what we were about and we even specifically spoke up and reminded them during finalizing things, "you realize that almost everyone there will be legally and responsibly armed."

We've had high-profile speakers at every single Party in the Park picnic and this has never been a problem.

I also want to thank Robert for his words. I'm sure the Governor has the same expectations that we all do - hundreds of well-mannered, responsible, law-abiding citizens enjoying good food and good fellowship with other activists. We expect tons of media presence - print and TV.

This definitely isn't the place for showing your buddy your carry piece in the crowd.

Hope to see a lot of people there!
 
MeanStreaker, your organization has my sincere congratulations and so does Ohio's Governor and his staff. The Ohio that emerges from your brief description of them and this event is not the same whacko state I knew up until just a few years ago.

We used to go to Columbus and Cleveland frequently--several times a year--on business until the Columbus mayor and others came up with their own gun control laws that caused us to divert our meetings elsewhere. (Even Ohioans welcomed the excuse to travel to Florida instead of meeting in Columbus, by the way.) Many people travel by car, as do we, and find it prudent to have legally permitted firearms for self defense. When Ohio became a crazy quilt of fiefdoms with their own gun control laws it became unrealistic to drive there and risk violating those laws when traveling. So we revised some decades long business practices.

The irony is that almost immediately after doing so we became grateful to the mayors and city councils of Columbus, Toledo, and other Ohio cities. If they hadn't created insurmountable problems we would have continued to meet in Ohio despite the obvious attractions of Naples, Jacksonville, and other Florida locations during the Fall and Winter. You have no idea how fast someone responds when asked to choose between Naples, Florida, and Columbus, Ohio, for a December meeting. I doubt that we'll ever change venues back to Ohio, but it might be nice to dine in German Village again sometime and see old friends in their area.

Again, congratulations to sane, responsible people in your organization and Ohio state government. I wish you all great success.
 
Good News Indeed!

Thanks Meanstreaker.
I had visions of the Highway Patrol, operating under SOP. As in, arrive early, secure the gates, Nobody gets in without going thru security and the metal detectors. "BEEP" "Whats that?" "Officer I am required to inform you that I have a concealed carry license and I am armed at this time." "Thats fine, you'll need to take your gun back to your car." "Nope, I dont think so." I'll let you all fill in the rest.
I'm glad to know this has been handled with the usual competence and professionalism. I should have been expecting that.
btw, have you considered how you're gonna handle President Thompsons Secret Service detail?
 
Robert, trust me... we buckeyes feel your pain. :) I hope that you can come back to visit Ohio and breathe easy now that we got preemption to become law in March of this year and there is now one uniform set of gun laws to follow, instead of the crazy patchwork of thousands of laws that used to exist when some cities decided they can pass whatever they want to infringe upon our rights.
 
Thanks for the post! An hour isn't too far to drive for this, thanks for the heads-up.
 
While I consider myself a right-winger, having a conservative Democrat from the rural south eastern part of the state is not a bad thing for gun rights here in Ohio. (he broke ranks with the Democrats while he was in the House of Representatives and voted AGAINST renewal of the AWB) Now if only he'd slash taxes...
 
This sounds like a great event. Its nice to see Strickland is pro gun, this should help him in upcoming elections with people who usually vote another way. I know its legal in Ohio but not usually treated that way, but would open carry at something like this be approriate or just a way to get thrown in jail? I dont have a concealed carry permit but would like to openly carry without causing myself any trouble? Any ideas? or am I being too optomisitic thinking that would not get me into trouble eventhough its legal.
 
So I was telling someone about this thread and mentioned that I might have to rethink my attitudes towards Ohio.

He laughed, told me that Cincinnati's Mayor Mark Mallory recently refused to fire a starters pistol because he "didn't like the symbolism," and suggested that it might be nice to meet in Virginia sometime.

Sigh.
 
He laughed, told me that Cincinnati's Mayor Mark Mallory recently refused to fire a starters pistol because he "didn't like the symbolism," and suggested that it might be nice to meet in Virginia sometime.
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Ohio is up there as far as gun rights go. Aside from the 'local laws' it was never bad, but those laws are gone now so we are about the same as KY or IN. Don't listen to the city-folk - they are in a different world, and are by far out-numbered by us country folk.
 
Aside from the 'local laws' it was never bad, but those laws are gone now so we are about the same as KY or IN.
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Ratzinger, I don't understand and I hadn't kept up with developments in Ohio since we gave up on it. Do you meant that local laws such as those in Columbus, that outlawed firearms legal in the rest of the state, are no longer in force? That would be good news indeed.
 
Ratzinger, I don't understand and I hadn't kept up with developments in Ohio since we gave up on it. Do you meant that local laws such as those in Columbus, that outlawed firearms legal in the rest of the state, are no longer in force? That would be good news indeed.
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Yep. We just passed a state law that makes all those BS ordinances in the big cities like Columbus and Cincinnati null and void. I love Ohio.
 
Aha! I just hadn't realized how much things had changed in such a short time and I almost didn't bother reading this thread. It should be sponsored by Ohio's Chamber of Commerce.

My hat is off to all of the people and politicians who helped make the change. I would not have believed it possible.
 
The conceal carry laws still need some work, but the preemption was the biggest one to win. The mayors of Cinci and Cleveland are fighting it tooth and nail, trying to get it over turned, "for the children", but it's not going to happen. If pulled over, you have to notify that you are a carry permit holder and that you are carrying. In Columbus, Toledo, or Cincinatti, you might be hassled for carrying, but there's no legal ground for the DA to stand on and you'd have a suit to buy that next set of guns with.
 
Robert, On Dec. 12 we got HB347 passed. This fixed a few things with our concealed carry, but the bigger thing is we got preemption, which did away with all gun control laws that 80+ municipalities had put in place. It got rid of Columbus' AWB, and various silly other restrictions around the state. Cleveland Mayor Jackson is still stomping his feet, but his police chief told his officers that they will abide by the law, not the mayor.

HB347 was vetoed by Gov. Taft. The House came back the same day and overrode his veto. The Senate come back a couple days later and overrode his veto. This was the first Gov. override in Ohio in 30 years, and it was on OUR BILL!:D

Buckeye Firearms and NRA-ILA were the guiding forces in getting this one passed! I personally attended every single hearing for HB347. And there were A LOT of them. Here is a link to the override:
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/article3432.html

We are tickled to death to have pro-gun Gov. Strickland in the Statehouse now. Now if we could just get the Republican leadership to move some gun bills for us.:(
 
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Ratzinger, I don't understand and I hadn't kept up with developments in Ohio since we gave up on it. Do you meant that local laws such as those in Columbus, that outlawed firearms legal in the rest of the state, are no longer in force? That would be good news indeed.
Yep. We just passed a state law that makes all those BS ordinances in the big cities like Columbus and Cincinnati null and void. I love Ohio.
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Ditto that. I hated driving anywhere near Columbus with even a lowly M1 Carbine when those laws where in place.

We are tickled to death to have pro-gun Gov. Strickland in the Statehouse now. Now if we could just get the Republican leadership to move some gun bills for us.
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Yes but Ohio is one of those states where I ask: What else do we need? Other than some bits with the CCL, what else is there - nullification of the MG ban? Vermont Carry? :p
 
but would open carry at something like this be approriate or just a way to get thrown in jail?
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Eric, come on down! You're more than welcome, as this is the biggest endorsement for grassroots gun rights ever! All legal carry is welcome, but we are warning people that open carry will make one a much stronger magnet for the media. So if people aren't comfortable talking in front of a camera with someone that is more likely than not trying to put an anti-gun spin on a report... please feel free to point them towards OFCC staff at the event and we can handle media inquiries. Other than that, open carry with pride. It's legal in Ohio.

Robert, sorry if my post about preemption way up this page got lost in the shuffle. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions. You can also wade through our webpage for all the gory details as all of the recent victories in Ohio have been something that OFCC has been fighting for for years! Of course, all thanks has to go to the thousands of our members and supporters that targeted the most important legislators that were "on the fence". We continually singled out and highlighted these key votes on our webpage and forums through the hairy days when voting took place in Columbus and legislators are on record saying that the thousands of calls/emails/letters they received really made the veto override a reality. Some big-city mayors are fighting it, but OFCC isn't going to let that happen without fight after all of our hard work. Here's a link I posted about the NRA and OFCC joining up in lawsuits to support preemption against the city of Cleveland:

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=279957&highlight=ofcc

Ratzinger, there's definitely a lot that still needs fixed in Ohio, and we're hard at work at it. We're getting face time with the Gov and providing a packet of legislative proposals that need to get passed in Ohio:

--Personal Protection While Dining - so a licensee that isn't drinking can carry in a restaurant that happens to serve alcohol.

--Definition of "loaded" handgun - as this is very gray in the law right now

--Allowing people to keep their handgun in their vehicles, even if parking lots are posted

As well as about 8 other important proposals. Stay tuned to ohioccw.org web site for updates on these pushes.
 
Now just to get the CHL wording changed to "license to carry concealed firearms" or better yet, "concealed weapons". Right now, most lawyers read it as ONE gun allowed to be carried. Whatever happened to the idea of a backup gun?


I retract my complaint....


2923.12 Carrying concealed weapons.

(A) No person shall knowingly carry or have, concealed on the person’s person or concealed ready at hand, any of the following:

(1) A deadly weapon other than a handgun;

(2) A handgun other than a dangerous ordnance;

(3) A dangerous ordnance.

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(C)

(2) Division (A)(2) of this section does not apply to any person who, at the time of the alleged carrying or possession of a handgun, is carrying a valid license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun issued to the person under section 2923.125 or 2923.1213 of the Revised Code or a license to carry a concealed handgun that was issued by another state with which the attorney general has entered into a reciprocity agreement under section 109.69 of the Revised Code

...

(D) It is an affirmative defense to a charge under division (A)(1) of this section of carrying or having control of a weapon other than a handgun and other than a dangerous ordnance that the actor was not otherwise prohibited by law from having the weapon and that any of the following applies:

(1) The weapon was carried or kept ready at hand by the actor for defensive purposes while the actor was engaged in or was going to or from the actor’s lawful business or occupation, which business or occupation was of a character or was necessarily carried on in a manner or at a time or place as to render the actor particularly susceptible to criminal attack, such as would justify a prudent person in going armed.

(2) The weapon was carried or kept ready at hand by the actor for defensive purposes while the actor was engaged in a lawful activity and had reasonable cause to fear a criminal attack upon the actor, a member of the actor’s family, or the actor’s home, such as would justify a prudent person in going armed.
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So by my reading, pretty much any weapons are legal to carry as long as you're not breaking the law. Neat!
 
Other than some bits with the CCL, what else is there - nullification of the MG ban?
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There's no MG ban in Ohio. There is an often misunderstood law that makes it a higher penalty offence to commit a crime with an MG or 31+ round mag.


I would like to attend this event, but can't.

Not sure this belongs in "Legal." Not sure for "Activism" either. Maybe best in General so more Ohioans can hear about it.
 
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