Oh No ! My Glock shoots left.

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I had the same issue once upon a time. Grip high, lock both elbows and squeeze tight (as hard as you can) you should be back on target. If you don't controll the recoil the gun will be off as you have described.
 
AK103K said:
Its been "normal" for me for years now. Im not talking one or two guns either, Ive got at least a dozen of them.
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The fact that it's going on with multiple guns is further evidence that it's not normal. Sure, you found a workaround that serves you, but why not have the issue addressed? I'm guessing this issue is exclusive to your Glocks, and none of your other pistols have/need it. Further evidence something isn't quite right with the way you're manipulating the firearm.

Obviously whatever you want to do, I'm just saying I don't understand the mentality. To each his own, I guess.
 
Further evidence something isn't quite right with the way you're manipulating the firearm.

Obviously whatever you want to do, I'm just saying I don't understand the mentality. To each his own, I guess.
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Whats to understand? The gun shoots to POA, with and without the sights. So wheres the problem?

As I said earlier, I tried all manner of things trying to figure it out, and didnt get anywhere, nor did I ever see things change. Not that it really matters, as again, the gun shoots where I look, with both the sights or pointing, so who cares?

If it were an accuracy issue, or issue shooting the gun naturally, I could see trying to reconcile it. To me, its not worth the bother. Just a couple of cranks on the sight tool, and Im good to go.
 
If it were an accuracy issue, or issue shooting the gun naturally, I could see trying to reconcile it.
To me, its not worth the bother. Just a couple of cranks on the sight tool, and Im good to go.
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It's not really a issue with shooting it. I shoot the thing OK. Not great, but OK. In this little test
I put a hundred rounds into a 6” target at ten yards with only three outliers. Right handed, left
handed, supported and not. So for the guns intended purpose I guess it's OK. But clearly I am doing
something wrong. I would like to get it straight.

For now, I think I need to find a few people that shoot Glocks well. Shouldn't be that hard.
 
OK for those of you that said I was flinching, please give yourself a gold star and my thanks again for your great advice.

The short version :
Loaded up 6 mags last week, hid 5 snap caps in the mags. Stopped at the range on the way home from work. Shooting OK till I come up to a snap cap.
My hands clenched harder just at the time that the gun would have gone off if it had a live round in it. Five snap caps, five obvious flinches.
I would have never thought I would flinch with a full sized 9mm.

Oh well, at least I have a direction to go now.
 
Lots of dry fire practice may help you with your flich. When shooting live fire you have to force yourself not to do it. When you notice yourself about to snatched the trigger, just start over again.

In regards to shooting left when shooting right handed, and shooting right while shooting left handed; try modifying your trigger finger placement. I tend to push the muzzle to the opposite side of my shooting hand if I only use the tip or first pad of my trigger finger. The angle for me is not conducive to a strait back trigger press. I find that I need to sink more finger into the trigger to get a strait back press, so I use the first joint. Your results may vary depending on hand size and finger length, but it is worth investigating.
 
I have had to drift the rear sight to the right on Glocks. On particular G17 the edge of the rear sight was almost out of real estate, as in, almost off the side of the slide. But I shot it dead on, to the tune of qualifying with 4/4 shots inside a realistic outline of a heart on the bad guy target at 25 yards, and equally centered groups all the way in shooting faster.

IMO if a shooter consistently puts rounds centered on the target it isn't worth worrying about where the rear sight rests.
 
Shooting right handed, left support hand, right eye. The gun shoots about one inch left at ten yards.
Shooting left handed, right hand support, left eye. The gun shoots about one inch right at ten yards.
Shooting right handed unsupported, right eye. The gun shoots about three inches left.
Shooting left handed unsupported, left eye. The gun shoots about three inches right.
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The good news is your gun is probably fine.

The bad news is that your trigger pull is inconsistent and it upsets the sight picture, which you aren't seeing until you look at the target because you shoot with your eyes closed, or without looking at your sights.

Re-center your rear sight. Watch the front sight intently as the trigger breaks. Strive valiantly to maintain that perfect sight picture as the trigger breaks. Even the best shooters in the world practice this.

I'm far from perfect, and if I'm watching I can call my pulled shots.
 
Re-center your rear sight. Watch the front sight intently as the trigger breaks. Strive valiantly to maintain that perfect sight picture as the trigger breaks. Even the best shooters in the world practice this.

I'm far from perfect, and if I'm watching I can call my pulled shots.
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I practice that every day. Done it a bazillion times. The sights alignment holds rock solid, and they dont move a hundredth of a whisker when the trigger breaks.

Of course, the rear sights on all my Glocks, are still on the right side of the slide, where I had to push them, so my rounds go where the sights are looking when those triggers break.

Hmmmmmm.......:D
 
All my handguns, including 4 Glocks, all have the rear sight centered, and shoot center if I do my part.

Rifles now, they do tend to need fine tuning. My FAL barrel is barely undertimed, so my rear sight is adjusted to compensate. My Garand shoots left with the rear sight centered. Of course those rifles have a couple feet span between sights.

If the OP shoots left with one hand and right with the other, it ain't the pistol doing it. It's design makes it repeatable. It doesn't know which hand the OP is using, or how to change point of impact, especially at 10 yards.
 
daisycutter said:
Rifles now, they do tend to need fine tuning. My FAL barrel is barely undertimed, so my rear sight is adjusted to compensate. My Garand shoots left with the rear sight centered. Of course those rifles have a couple feet span between sights.
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If your pistol skills are equal to your rifle skills, you'll find that your pistols need need fine tuning just as much as rifles do.

A rifle with 2 feet between the sights that's 3 inches off at 100 yards means that the rear sight needs to be drifted .020".

A pistol with 6 inches between the sights that's 3 inches off at 25 yards means that the rear sight needs to be drifted .020".

Of course, if your skills are such that you can't hold a meaningful group in a particular case then it's pretty irrelevant.
 
I really don't think it is the Glock's fault. Pistols are very difficult to shoot because of their designs and short barrels. That could be the reason we give our troops rifles for combat.
 
A have quite a few semi autos and my Glock is the only one that naturally points high shoots center left for me. I have played with all the Gen4 backstrap options and a slightly modified Grip Force Adapter solved the "naturally pointing high" issue for me and careful trigger finger placement combined with a small sight drift has really helped center my shots. All good, except in a SD situation, perfect trigger finger placement may not be an option.

I have decided it is all relative since it is a SD gun and 1/2" off dead center at 30' may not be all that important.

I will say my G19 is the last gun I would ever take to a Bullseye match but it's simplicity, low mag cost and availability of parts make it a great product.
 
The guns on either side definitely have the rear sights drifted to the right side of the slide. The one in the middle, to the left side. That owner must have been a lefty. :)
 
Yes, on closer examination I think your right, but none are extreme.

From my personal experience and from what I have read Golck triggers need a little different trigger technique.
 
All of mine look pretty much like the one the right.

Ive tried everything suggested trigger wise, and saw no difference. They shoot where I aim them, and shoot where I point them.
 
All my Glocks, Gen 3 and 4 shoot left (I'm right handed). When I shoot left handed with support they will shoot right. I can cover my 15 yard group with my hand easily. Factory and aftermarket sights are all centered on the slide.

If I concentrate on trigger pull POI is POA.

Lots of trigger time and dry fire. Experiment with trigger pull and depending on hand size, finger length, you may need to use much more or much less trigger finger.
 
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