(OH) Thieves Burglarize Home, Take High-Powered Automatic Weapons

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...shoot through homes...
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Anybody else think of an .88 Magnum when you read this? (Yes, I know it was shoots through "schools," not "homes.")

I wonder if he has a CCW and was a targeted after the "public records" were published in a paper somewhere.
 
What (insert favorite intelligence insult) stores an M-60 and a selective fire Uzi in a cheap RSC?!?! That's, what, $40,000 worth of hardware that's awfully difficult to replace?
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YES Where was the 2 ton safe these should have been stored in?
 
These should have been locked away in a 2-ton, all-steel vault, with a good alarm system both on the vault and the residence.
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+1 That's just good common sense. no one in his right mind would leave a perfect 10 caret diamond out where it could be stolen by a burglar, so why leave something like these out there???
 
who has a transferable M-60 ($25K+++) and lives in an apartment? Sounds like a ??? to me.
 
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Yikes. That doesn't sound like fun.

I'm going to take the high road and not pre-judge the guy. I live in an apartment, and own an NFA item (a silencer), but it's just because I'm only going to live in Tucson for about two years, and it's cheaper and easier for me to rent at this time.

Maybe the guy was looking for a home, or didn't want to bother with home ownership at this time? Maybe homes weren't affordable there? I have no idea, but it's not my place to judge. Many apartment buildings have weight restrictions so as to avoid structural damage -- a 4,000lb safe would have been prudent, yes, but perhaps not an option in the apartment.

In the event that one's storing a machinegun in one's property, whether in an RSC or safe, an alarm and a little wireless camera set to transmit picture/video to a remote computer or email address sounds like a good idea.

Either way, three NFA items (M60, Uzi, and silencer) have been stolen, and two of them are irreplaceable machineguns. I hope that the guns are found, those responsible are charged and tried, and (assuming the guy is innocent until proven guilty, and the guns were "legitimately" stolen) that the guns are returned to their proper owner.
 
Probably right there Texas, I'm the guy who begs his wife for 100$ to buy a 91/30, needless to say, I don't estimate NFA prices very well.

:D
 
Ok I dont get it, a guy owns a full auto M-60 in original condition valued at $$$$$ and a full auto uzi worth at least a few grand. And he puts them in "Safe" proboly an RSC that could be pried open? That doesnt sound smart to me. If I spent massive amounts on my guns I would not have them in some RSC.
 
Well, it would seem to me that if a guy had some cool automatic rifles, and was worried they would be outlawed and confiscated soon, he might want them to get ‘stolen’ so it no longer appears he has any automatic rifles. My bet is that they are buried somewhere in Montana on some land he owns.
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Interesting theory...
 
Well, it would seem to me that if a guy had some cool automatic rifles, and was worried they would be outlawed and confiscated soon, he might want them to get ‘stolen’ so it no longer appears he has any automatic rifles. My bet is that they are buried somewhere in Montana on some land he owns.
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Are you aware of any pending legislation or other discussion in legal circles regarding the legality of NFA firearms?

As far as I know, the NFA's remained pretty much the same since 1934. In 1986, new machinegun sales to civilians was prohibited. But otherwise, I can't think of anything in the legal or political circles that would have anything to do with full-auto stuff.

Sure, HR1022 would cover semi-auto "scary guns", but not machineguns.
 
A drive-by with an M60 may be in your future... remember the scene from The Great Escape, at the French cafe? Not an M60, but something similar.

"Detectives say thieves stole two high-powered automatic weapons that were meant for war and can cause a lot of destruction, reports News 11's Lisa Rantala."
Journalistic writing quality seems to be going down further and further.

Then there's the crazy things the fellow said. Yes, .308 can go through cars... but did you have to say so?

"Because he wanted to be remembered for his insightful one liners..."
Maybe so.
 
"...Now deputies want the weapons off the street,..."

If the deputies are so highly concerned about the weapons walking around out on the street, why don't they just go out on the street and pick them up??? :confused:

L.W.
 
My theory,
He probaly had them insured and sold them to someone he knew without having to do any paperwork on the buyers part. Then attacked his own safe and reported his NFA stuff stolen to collect the insurance money.
 
Keep it THR folks, a lot of NFA avoidance conspiracies flying around here. Also too much name calling of someone we do not know, who really blew it big time in my book
 
He probaly had them insured and sold them to someone he knew without having to do any paperwork on the buyers part.
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Why would he sell it without paperwork? The only reason it's worth $50K is because of the registry. Without it's legal status, it's just a 25lb rifle that shoots really fast, that you can be sent to prison for.

It can't be worth anywhere _near_ $50K as an unpapered weapon.

Well, it would seem to me that if a guy had some cool automatic rifles, and was worried they would be outlawed and confiscated soon, he might want them to get ‘stolen’ so it no longer appears he has any automatic rifles. My bet is that they are buried somewhere in Montana on some land he owns.
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Again, why would he do that when he could, y'know, sell the M60, buy over 100 semi-auto AR-15s, and then bury those in Montana? Which would you rather have, one MG section, or a company of riflemen?


Anyone want to guess what an _illegal_ M60 or Uzi is worth on the street? I'll be a full-auto Uzi with suppressor isn't worth more than a couple grand, ditto for the M60. Whereas worth maybe $8K and $50K when transfered legally.

So far as insurance fraud, I'm not a claims adjuster, but I'd imagine he'll have a hard time getting $50K when his investment was stored in a pryable safe.

-MV
 
If you click on the link in the original post there is a link to a video of the news story on it. There is some visuals of the safe and some other stuff in his place. Make of it what you will.
 
So far as insurance fraud, I'm not a claims adjuster, but I'd imagine he'll have a hard time getting $50K when his investment was stored in a pryable safe.
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I have a policy on a BAR for $34K and there is nothing at all in there about how I store it.

It only asks for the location where storage will occur. No inspections either.
 
it sounds to me like this.... [insert moronic epithet] knew he screwed up by putting basially a mercedes in a tin can. he wants it back bad and thinks that if he can get the media's attention folks will look for it harder.

hence the "oh yeah, it can blow away airplanes and make craters five miles away" kind of talk.

the thing is the more he talks like that the less likely he's ever going to get it back.

and he will be forever remembered as the guy who pooped in his own... well you get it.
 
The next thing we need is that M60 being used in a crime. It will probably jam, but still...
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I admit, I laughed. :D

However, the M60 will be all but useless to the criminals if they didn't take ammo or links. Or a linker. Hand-linking ammo's a royal pain in the butt, and without links, they'd be able to very slowly and very awkwardly fire one round at a time.
 
Insurance JOB!!
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Well that would be tough really.

If insurance pays, it's not like he can EVER show up with that gun again.
He couldn't sell it later because it's going to be marked stolen forever.

The market for MGs is crazy, if he just wanted cash he could have sold it in a second.

That scenario just doesn't make sense.
 
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