Ohio CHL Reciprocity Agreements - No Texas, So...?

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Ohio doesn't recognize a Texas CHL. As a Texas resident, I hate traveling to locations where I can't carry. But even though Ohio won't let me carry, I can still have a gun with me during my Ohio excursion, correct? I assume that I would have to lock it and keep it in the trunk of the car or something, but as long as I didn't carry it on my person, it would acceptable to fly into and out of Ohio. Or maybe I'm just asking for trouble?

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Well, I just called the Ohio attorney general's office and asked them about the options. When it comes to guns, there are none. The man there said that weapons are weapons to them. I asked about long guns (rifles/shotguns and the ability to have one with me in my vehicle or hotel room - not concealed on my person), and his response was, "Weapons are weapons in the eyes of Ohio. If you fly into an airport in Ohio and don't have an Ohio CHL (he said CHL, but he may mean proper Ohio documentation, whatever that is), you may be arrested."

It sounded to me like he was simply saying, "Don't bring any guns to Ohio unless you live in Ohio." He, more specifically, and in my opinion, sounded a little like, "Don't bring any guns to Ohio unless you live in Ohio because we don't like them..." I could be wrong about my impression, though.

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Ohio will send Officer Daniel Harless (Canton Police Dash Cam Movie Star) to your hotel and explain the dangers of firearms in Ohio if you show up with weapons.:eek:
 
That's garbage. There was a law passed about 30ish years ago that state that you can have a gun in a locked case in your trunk separate from the ammo, in any state in the union so long as you're passing through.

As to bringing in guns from out of state, are you serious? Ohio is not New York. The keys to remember in Ohio:

1. no guns in the passenger compartment unless in a locked case, unless you have a CHL, if that can't be helped, the action has to be locked back and ammo separate
2. no centerfire caliber magazines over 30 rounds, especially in cinci/columbus
 
Not that this is legal advice, but I'm from Ohio, and everyone outside of Canton seems pretty good with guns stored reasonably. I was pulled over a couple months ago and told the trooper I had a CCW and I actually had to spell it out to him. They don't seem to care, and for what it's worth, we welcome the gun community here. Also, there is a law here that prohibits local municipalities (Cleveland) from making stricter laws than exist in Ohio as a state. I also believe the law is that you need to separate the gun from the ammo to the extent it would require you to pull over and stop the vehicle to produce a loaded firearm.
 
Since you don't have an Ohio recognized permit, you can't have a loaded gun with you at all. Not in your car glove compartment, under the seat, in a locked case, et.al. If it is loaded, you could be arrested.

Your right to transport unloaded firearms is the same as any other Ohioans rights if they don't have a CCW permit. Just put them in the trunk (preferably in a case) separate from the ammo and you are good to go.
 
Since Ohio is constantly revising theri CCW law to conform to other states, the lieklyhood of reciprocity with Texas improves, but is not yet a reality. As stated above, you can bring, store, and transport weapons here, just not enjoy being CCW loaded and on one's person. You can participate in shooting events, hunt, target shoot in apporved places, and, I believe, arm yourself in your hotel room, etc (after all, it is your temorary home), and defend yourself if necessary, as long as you are not violating some CCW or other fireams law. Self defense IS permitted in Ohio.:)
 
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Well, I just called the Ohio attorney general's office and asked them about the options. When it comes to guns, there are none. The man there said that weapons are weapons to them. I asked about long guns (rifles/shotguns and the ability to have one with me in my vehicle or hotel room - not concealed on my person), and his response was, "Weapons are weapons in the eyes of Ohio. If you fly into an airport in Ohio and don't have an Ohio CHL (he said CHL, but he may mean proper Ohio documentation, whatever that is), you may be arrested."

It sounded to me like he was simply saying, "Don't bring any guns to Ohio unless you live in Ohio." He, more specifically, and in my opinion, sounded a little like, "Don't bring any guns to Ohio unless you live in Ohio because we don't like them..." I could be wrong about my impression, though.

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Complete and total B.S. (the AG office phone-answerer).

1. You can open carry your handgun fully loaded outside a vehicle without a license in Ohio.

Source: http://www.opencarry.org/oh.html

2. Inside the vehicle, the handgun must be unloaded and in a closed container. That's it. Not locked. Not separated from the ammo. Just in a closed container.

Source: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.16
(see paragraph (C))

Further down in that statute you will find that all magazines for the gun must be unloaded as well in the vehicle.
(see paragraph (K)(5)(a))

If you want to fly to Ohio with your handgun, the closed and locked case with your unloaded handgun in it that you have to have to fly with it in your checked bags anyway is perfectly acceptable in Ohio.

What a bunch of FUDD you question has elicited....
 
As a long time Buckeye, I am dismayed at the absence of reciprocity involving states that recognizes our ccw licenses as being valid in their state and us not theirs. All of which points out the need for a federal permit system that is inclusive of states having ccw license holders recognized as being legitimate nation-wide.
 
I am dismayed at the absence of reciprocity involving states that recognizes our ccw licenses as being valid in their state and us not theirs. All of which points out the need for a federal permit system that is inclusive of states having ccw license holders recognized as being legitimate nation-wide.
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I'm in Ohio as well. For some states, Ohio doesn't reciprocate because that particular state may have no training involved in getting a concealed carry permit/license/card/etc. I know I know, the NRA Basic Pistol course and 2 hours on the range I did for my CHL really isn't much of a 'training' requirement in Ohio, but there it is anyway.
And remember, some states don't recognize Ohio's CHL either.

PLEASE.....we do not need a 'federal permit system' for concealed carry! What we need to do is abolish ALL requirements for a CCW permit of any kind.

no centerfire caliber magazines over 30 rounds, especially in cinci/columbus
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That is the State of Ohio law and it is not exclusive to Columbus or Cinci.
30 rounds max mag capacity for center-fire and 50 rounds max mag capacity for rim-fire. It's worded really gray though (ties into automatic weapons).
But even this sure beats the individual silly city laws that were active here just 6 years ago!
Ohio is making progress every year! Only 22 days until I can legally concealed carry into Applebees finally! We're making progress. ;)
 
That is the State of Ohio law and it is not exclusive to Columbus or Cinci.
30 rounds max mag capacity for center-fire and 50 rounds max mag capacity for rim-fire. It's worded really gray though (ties into automatic weapons).
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Can you site where this is in the ORC? I'm quite sure I have seen those Glock 33 round mags at gun stores and gun shows in Ohio. Even in the Cincinnati suburbs. I don't have a Glock so I have had no reason to really check them out though.
 
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Can you site where this is in the ORC? I'm quite sure I have seen those Glock 33 round mags at gun stores and gun shows in Ohio. Even in the Cincinnati suburbs. I don't have a Glock so I have had no reason to really check them out though.
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http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.11

2923.11 Weapons control definitions.
As used in sections 2923.11 to 2923.24 of the Revised Code:

(E) “Automatic firearm” means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger. “Automatic firearm” also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges.

(K) “Dangerous ordnance” means any of the following, except as provided in division (L) of this section:

(1) Any automatic or sawed-off firearm, zip-gun, or ballistic knife;
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http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.17

2923.17 [Effective 6/29/2011] Unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance – illegally manufacturing or processing explosives

(A) No person shall knowingly acquire, have, carry, or use any dangerous ordnance.
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The magazine capacity limit in Ohio was 18 rounds for many years, until the legislature was asked by the AG to up the limit to 30/31 rounds, to cover the multitude of carbine, M16, etc, 40 rounders already floating around the state. That 18 round law was on the books, but never enforced, so Ohio had as many high capacity mags as any "free" state. The higher (greater than 31, i.e.: drum mags, 32 & 36 round mags) capacity mags make any gun that they are in a "dangerous ordnance" under Ohio law, making them as regulated as machineguns, grenades, suppressors, etc, and subject to diffeent laws regarding ownership, storage, security, than other regular fireams. It is confusing, but those that play with weapons under the "dangerous ordnance" section need to get an understanding of the Ohio sections. Little of this applies to CCW, though, as the stipulation in Ohio's CCW law is handguns only anyway, unless you violate the 31 round or more rule on magazines.
 
OK, I'm going out on a limb here but as a WV transplanted to TX I have asked the same question about why WV and TX won't grant reciprocity. Turns out it is because WV only does a state background check and not a federal one, so TX won't recognize WV. Reciprocity being what it is . . . WV wont recognize TX either. So, when I drive home to WV to visit the family, I am good in TX, AR, TN, KY and then have to unload and case in my home state where both dad and brother are licensed.

Sigh.

So, it may be that TX is the one that won't recognize OH. TX, being one of the few states that grants a CCW to out of state residents - obviously has to do a federal background check (and really, every state should be). The TX code states that TX will not grant reciprocity to any state that does not at least equal TX requirements.

So - find out if OH is not not doing a federal check - if they are not, there's your answer.
 
As a long time Buckeye, I am dismayed at the absence of reciprocity involving states that recognizes our ccw licenses as being valid in their state and us not theirs. All of which points out the need for a federal permit system that is inclusive of states having ccw license holders recognized as being legitimate nation-wide.
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What part of the 2nd Amendment would give the Congress jurisdiction over issuing permits?
 
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