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OKay maybe this is a crazy idea, accurizing surplus

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by akolleth, Apr 21, 2008.

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  1. akolleth

    akolleth Member

    Feb 20, 2007
    Got thinking about this, I have heard tell that many surplus rounds are as innacurate as they are because of inconsistant bullet weights and charges. So I am wondering if I can increase the accuracy of the surplus rounds by pulling them, and reloading them with consistant values of their orignal componants.

    1- Pull 10 rounds, one at a time, measuring grains of powder used in each case to get a base charge range for the powder used in the cartridges(that way I know how much of the unknown powder was in each case, and therefore an acceptable range to put back into the cases)

    2-- Pull rest of them, dumping all the powder in a hopper

    3- Weigh all the bullets, and segregate based on weight variances.

    4- Reload using consistant charges of the pulled powder (ONLY in the range of charge values found from the 10 pulled original cartridges), and creating batches of similar bullet weight.

    I know many would say its alot of work just for surplus, but I don't know, it seems like it could be a lot of fun for me.

    Any issues that you can think of?
  2. cracked butt

    cracked butt Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    SE Wisconsin
    I've done that exact thing with reloading turkish 8mm ammo several yeras ago- I got somewhat better accuracy and downloaded them by about 2 gr as well.

    The biggest thing I'd worry about is using different lots of ammo which might have different powders in them.
  3. HJ857

    HJ857 Member

    Jun 14, 2007
    We are brothers in arms my friend.

    There are a few of us that follow this trick to varying degrees. From simply replacing the factory bullet with a better bullet to fully customizing the load.

    When I've relayed information on this there are always folks that think it's a waste of time. But if you reload brass cased ammo, you'll find that customizing surplus ammo is a LOT less work.

    What you have listed is a perfectly good procedure. However you'll find that the bullet weights are all over the place. If you sort to matching weights, you'll end up with fewer bullets than empty cases.

    I customize 7.62x39 and find that 123.5grain bullets are the most common and also shoot the best.

    But to get a decent quantity of them I allow for a variance of 123.3 to 123.8 grains. My next sort batch is from 123.9 to 124.7 grains. These shoot very close to the same as the 123.5 bullets, everything else becomes a plinker or practice bullet.

    I dump the powder and load with IMR 4895 with a reduced load and it's a great deal more accurate than the factory stuff. Ramshot TAC also works very well for a hotter load at the same weight charge.

    I experimented with neck sizing and also trimming the cases to a standard length but ultimately I determined that it made no appreciable difference in the final load.

    In my view, consistent bullets and better powders make a lot of difference.
    Or, consistent bullets and a consistent powder charge will make a noticeable difference.
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