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Old Army Rugers--A Question or Two

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Montana Billy

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Why are there so few Ruger Old Army revolvers in the 5-inch configuration for sale or auction? Why are there even fewer of them in stainless steel? What should I be prepared to pay for one (in stainless) if I can find it? How do they compare to Uberti, Pietta, etc?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
 
The ROA is no longer in production, there is talk it may come back for a short run. The 5 inch SS are the lowest build numbers and command the highest prices. $600+ for a like new revolver is a ball park price.

The Ruger is head and shoulders above all other cap and ball revolvers. It is a complete modern design, that resembles a 1858.
 
i think their nice. i dont own one. but it is the revolver that i shot that started my love for these types of guns. i have seen 2 for sale used for $500 & both were stainless. cabelas & 1 on www.huntingne.com on the for sale page. i like the adjustable rear sight on them
 
You can get a 1858 Remmie with the rear adjustable sight. Its called the shooters revolver.

Yes and no. Both Pietta and Uberti make Remington repros with adjustable sights.

But the "Shooter's Revolver" isn't one of them. It's a Pietta with special features for competition shooting - a gain-twist barrel, proper relationship between cylinder and barrel diameter, etc. It doesn't have adjustable sights, I guess because they aren't permitted in whatever shooting class it's designed for?
 
I had a stainless that I loved to shoot, cleaned up easy. It got stolen in a home invasion while we were at work. About a week later, I found a blued used one in almost new finish except for a little rust pit on the outside of the barrel just down from the muzzle on the left side. It was in a gun shop in a nearby town and he wanted just under 100 bucks for it. I asked him if the price tag was a typo, he said he was getting out of the BP thing. I couldn't dig my wallet out fast enough. :D

BOTH these guns, I've found, shoot high, even with the rear sight screwed to the bottom position. I have to compensate my sight picture, but they shoot 2" groups at 25 yards with round ball or Lee 220 grain conical. Now, that, folks, is modern cartridge revolver accuracy and much better than I've been able to get done with the colt replicas. However, I have not gotten any trigger time with a Remington. Friend of mine has a cheap Remington and he likes the way it shoots. I mean, the colts just have such rudimentary sights on 'em, there's just no real way they can compete IMHO for accuracy even if the particular guns is well made and tight.

I've given thought to getting a Remington stainless 58. I am not certain as to whether I would want one of the target guns, or a 5.5" with fixed sight. I'm thinking the 5.5" with fixed sight would be more what I'd want, though. The old army is a HUGE, heavy gun. A smaller Remington would fit well into my little growing collection along with maybe a Sheriff's model of some Colt in .36 for a smaller gun, yet. For now, for cap and ball, I have the Ruger and a Remington .31 CVA. The Remington is fun, but not real accurate. The Ruger is a helluva shooter, amazing gun. Of course, it fits in my collection with my .45 Colt and .357 Blackhawks, too, I guess. :D It's every bit the quality gun that those Blackhawks are.
 
Madcratebuilder. have you heard anymore news on a possible re-introduction of the ROA? I sure hope they produce it again. I missed my chance to buy one when I worked for Cabela's(with a nice employee discount) and wish to redeem myself.
 
they are out their. U just have to look around. U will find a nice one. i want one to. but the Walker has to come first. so i can join the BIG BOY club. then the piggy bank will work for a SST ruger. if the dam housing market would just turn so i can lay bricks again.
 
Madcratebuilder. have you heard anymore news on a possible re-introduction of the ROA? I sure hope they produce it again. I missed my chance to buy one when I worked for Cabela's(with a nice employee discount) and wish to redeem myself.

The possible re-introduction is in the rumor mill at the Ruger forums. If Ruger does make a run I'm sure they well not be inexpensive.

You can still find a reasonable price if you keep looking, by reasonable I mean $350-400. The $200-250 days are long gone I think.

There is an increased interest in BP revolvers lately, the possibility of fire arm restrictions and the fact they are a 'non' fire arm has made them attractive to many shooters. It has effected the price of used revolvers quite a bit.
 
I have looked long and hard at my Ruger and it seems to me to be a combination of Colt, Remington and Rogers and Spencer. I suspect that Ruger took what they considered to be the best features of each and used them in their product, and a good job of it they did. To me the grip is definitely Colt. The cylinder has Remington safety notches for the hammer. the nipple area resembles the R&S more than Remmies or Colt. The loading lever is definitely more R&S. There are other similaraties in grips etc but the ones Ive indicated are the most obvious. I agree that Ruger is the better made of all revolvers.
 
Just a note on the adjustable sighted Remingtons: they are not "legal" for use in the SASS Frontiersman category. They are OK wherever BP is allowed as a propellant.
 
roa sucks. If they shot worth a damn Ruger would still be making them and everybody would be happy. He quit making them because nobody (to speak of) would buy the damned thing....
 
Thank you for the opinion. Now I at least know where I stand.

I bought one, and it's without a doubt the best bp percussion revolver I've ever owned or shot (I own 15). Hands down.
 
Well, go buy another 15. Then set a target up at 150 yards and put somebody else beside of you with a Walker and then see how quick you regret spending that money....
 
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roa sucks. If they shot worth a damn Ruger would still be making them and everybody would be happy. He quit making them because nobody (to speak of) would buy the damned thing....

Colt Walker, 1851s, 1860s, 1861s and Remington 1858s, et al suck. If they shot worth a damn Colt and Remington, et al would still be making them and everybody would be happy. Colt and Remington, et al quit making them because nobody (to speak of) would buy the damned thing....

Somebody is starting to look silly....and it ain't me...:D
 
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Moutinous Dog.. I am a gentleman. No way in hell would I dis-respect Mr. MyKeal. He has helped me out on here too many times. However, I was speaking with Mr. MyKeal, not you, so I would kindly suggest that you find yourself some business and stay out of mine. You to Mr. ClamBake or whatever your name is....
 
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