Old School/New School.....

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Elsewhere on the Net, I got called "SO Old School" by someone of tender years and experiences.

No matter, words hurt only if we accept them. And, I'm modern enough for my purposes. I did start to think about what constituted "Old School" and "New School". I didn't find any guidelines, but did find some examples.

Hardware.....

Old School, Browning Superposed, Browning A-5. Winchester SX1, Models 21,12 and 97.

New School, Browning Gold, Browning Cynergy.Winchester SX3 and 101. Benellis.

Old School, 870 Wingmaster.

New School, 870 Express.

Old School, Ithaca 4E SBT.

New School, BT99.

And Software.....

Old School, knowing shooting books fall under Dewey Decimal System #799 and reading Brister, Buckingham, Little and Missledine to learn about shotgunning.

New School, Googling the above and surfing the Net for gun sites like this one.

Old School, following a good dog up a fenceline with a shell in your old H&R single and your heart pounding when the pup swings into a solid point. The covey erupts and the shot goes true.

New School, following two good dogs across a strip of CRP land and finding your heart pounding just as hard as the one skids into a point, the other backs, and a covey that owes its very existence to Quail Unlimited and folks like us explodes into the air. Your Italian SxS finds the line and speaks.

What examples can you think of?....
 
new school folding tactical foregrip with tactical light, attaching to tactical rail system free-floated from tactically coated receiver mounting Aimpoint behind Eotech behind 50mm scope flanked by three pairs of back-up iron sights, accompanied by three-way-adjustable cheekrest with vibrating massager function set atop an M4-type collapsible stock even if the base firearm is a reproduction blackpowder derringer.

old school a gun
 
In many ways I am old school. Most of my guns are so old that steel shot will ruin them. My old Stevens 311 still shoots good. My SKB 900 still shoots as good as a multi-thousand dollar gun.

I can't add anything to your list. I can fiddle a bit with a computer but I'd rather study from an old book such as Brister's or O'Connor's. These old eyes get tired of computer glare. I no longer own a single shot nor do I miss it.

I think that I have broken the mold by stating that one of my favorite guns is a Nova polymer 20 gauge. It is light and handy for these old bones. I well remember the bruised shoulders from the old Iver Johnson Champion. I was sitting in high cotton when I got my first semiauto from Sears. It still sits in it's elegant beauty in my safe with that handy Lyman variable choke on it. Not a speck of rust after 40 years.

My Browning A5 still is sitting in its place of honor. Never been shot but a but a few times. I haven't used it in 20 years. I like it but it ain't my "go to" gun. My Franchi 48 holds that honor. It is around 40 years old.

Very good post, Dave! It put me to thinking about the old gun that Mom bought for $1.00 during the depression. It still has its place of sacred honor in my safe, complete with the nail for a firing pin.

Keep up the good work.
 
Old School: My firearms (with the except of one ebr)

New School: Me (established 1984)


btw, Dave- 870 #4(and maaaybe #5) coming soon. The Old Man finally bought himself an 1100, Needs lots of BA/UU/R. Told him to venture out and mingle with the geezers.


Hope all is well.
 
Hardware.....

Old School, Using a cleaning rod, attaching a brush with 0000 wisps of steel wool applied and twisting and turning to clean a shotgun chamber.

New School, Chucking the above cleaning rod into a cordless drill , and letting the drill twist and turn the brush with 0000 wisps to clean a shotgun chamber.

Old School, Wax ear plugs bought from the drug store and also used for "swimmers ear".
Or using the filter off a cigarette.

New School, Foam Ear plugs.
Advancing to Foam Ear Plugs on a cord so you don't lose one, and can wear around the neck.

Old School, Bushenell Aviator Style Clear Shooting Glasses and Ray Ban Aviator Sunglasses for Sunny days.

New School Looking for a new of pair of Shooting Glasses as the Zeiss, DeCot, Ranger, and Hy-Wide you had are missing.

Old School Black rotary dial telephone, hardwired to the wall to call folks about meeting up to shoot Skeet...anything shotgun related.

New School IBM Thinkpad, sending emails via Internet to communicate with others about shotguns and anything to do with shotguns.

Old School Manual Typewriter with carbon paper being used to type up shotgun reloading recipes.

New School IBM Thinkpad, PNY 2GB USB storage drive , and using Information Technology to glean all sorts of shotgun information, store it, share it, and if need print it with a Hewlett Packard printer.



And Software.....

Old School Learning the correct basic principles.
Passing forward the correct basic principles.

New School One can buy skill and targets.



Old School, Shaking a small box of matches that cost 2 cents behind somebody and hollering "snake" at the fillin' station. after a dove hunt and watching them jump at the Coke machine where they just inserted a whole nickel and was just about to raise the door to get that 6 ounce bottle of Coca-Cola with ice in the neck.

New School, Shaking a small box of matches that cost 10 cents behind somebody and hollering "snake" at the fillin' station. after a dove hunt and watching them jump at the Vending machine where they just inserted $ 1.25 and was just about to retrieve a 20 ounce bottle of Coca-Cola - that ain't the same Coca-Cola back when they were a nickel.

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Old school: Dozens of hardware stores, gas stations, retail stores and small gun shops in almost every town where a person could talk about guns and where to hunt while hearing great stories and sometimes questionable advice. Only a few computers in town that performed mostly financial transactions.

New School: A computer in almost every home where a person can talk about guns and where to hunt while hearing great stories and sometimes questionable advice. Ammo and guns available only at a few big box sporting goods retailers that perform mostly financial transactions.
 
Thanks, folks.

B5, all IS well. Looking forward to seeing you and Dad soon.

Maybe Old School is collecting 870s and shooting them plenty.

NewSchool, taking pics and posting them on Da Net.

Lessee what others contribute....
 
Old School, following a good dog up a fenceline with a shell in your old H&R single and your heart pounding when the pup swings into a solid point. The covey erupts and the shot goes true.---Dave McCracken
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I thought that in this specification for "Old School" it might also have been true that with that old H & R single shot [I had one once.] that it might also be characteristic of the scenario that you had only 1 to 3 shells in your pocket?

I get a big grin thinking about someone writing that to you.

If someone asked: "Well, how old are ya?"

...would you have to answer, "Well, you remember that Big Flood...?"

However, in fairness (just in case you were curious about an honest assessment )....you are very professional about your online contribution, and a real gentleman to boot.

Sometimes I can tell when a poster is of more tender years too.

While we're at it, what shotgun (a pump) would be the next step up from my Mossberg 500?

Somebody ought to have some suggestion.

:)

/
 
hmmm
old school Beretta S55
new school remington 1100 competition master
old school 1911
new school 1911

some things just dont change.
 
A couple things....

I'm not down on New School. After all, I teach more folks over the Net than at PGC. I like my Ipod, this 'puter Son amped up for me and online communities.

But, my experience predates these by decades, and there's much good in the past.

A couple things....

Steve, my shooting glasses are polycarb, tinted yellow and have a slight correction for astigmatism. New School, but rather similar to the industrial glass ones I used back in the day. Same style frames.

Yes, aviators...

Bruce, I always had shotgun shells. Food gathering and pest eradication were part of the family business. Pop kept me supplied with shotgun shells, though I was expected to buy 22 LRs if I shot them all up.

Re pumps, all US made ones are great. Try a few and see what speaks to you.

The only disadvantage in switching brands is retraining the hands to find the controls.

Eric, the GM here has lots of rounds through it and was made by Colt in 1943. Old School target gun worked over to carry.

Chas, don't get me started.
 
Old School: Getting up bright and early a couple weeks before the season, and paddling a couple miles through the marsh to find that perfect waterfowl spot.

New School: Calling your buddy the night before and getting GPS coordinates.
 
OLD School = Being able to afford only one shotgun chosen with a 28" barrel and modified choke for all purposes

NEW School = owning several shotguns with choices to make before leaving the house. What a country!
 
Old School, Taking firearms to school, including Shotguns.

From
Show-n-Tell in grade school, to Wood and Shop classes in Junior High, where we refinished stocks, re-blued and all sorts of stuff, to High School and having guns in vehicles as we hunted before and after school, heading out to hunt on Friday after school for the weekend...


New School Tyranny "sez" we cannot have guns in, on, or around a school.
 
Old School Making parts on an old Atlas lathe

New School Buying parts off Ebay
 
Don't feel bad Dave, they do it to everyone.

I'm back in school nowadays, what with the job market getting smaller, and this here area being union heavy to a fault in the trades I've worked. A person needs friends, education, and experience these days, in that order. Anyway, kids in my classes call me old all the time, especially since I served in the Army, I'm married, and I've had a variety of jobs.

Course, I'm only 27. So I guess New School is all about lowering the age of Old.
 
new school folding tactical foregrip with tactical light, attaching to tactical rail system free-floated from tactically coated receiver mounting Aimpoint behind Eotech behind 50mm scope flanked by three pairs of back-up iron sights, accompanied by three-way-adjustable cheekrest with vibrating massager function set atop an M4-type collapsible stock even if the base firearm is a reproduction blackpowder derringer.

old school a gun
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That's awesome, and sigworthy.

Old School: S&W 4" K-frame loaded with .38+P SWCLHP that the wearer can shoot well, in an IWB holster with a t-shirt tucked over it

New School: plastic 17 round .40 bullethose that the wearer can't shoot well because he developed a flinch shooting high pressure loads before he learned to shoot a pistol properly, in an OWB holster (because a full sized sidearm is too big for IWB, which really isn't that hard but the guy at the gunshop said...) tucked under a Mall Ninja special tacticool vest, with 7 spare magazines for "just in case"
 
I rather enjoy being an anachronism, but there's much good in new stuff.

Just the changes in ammo in my lifetime are noteworthy.

Back then, a slug shooting shotgun was about as accurate as a Brown Bess musket. Now, even a smoothbore is effective out to 100 yards or so IF the shotoer is up to it.

Back then, it took lots of choke to get a decent pattern past 30 yards. Now, I can use a good 7/8 oz reload and 8 POC to bust trap singles all day long.

Back then, I put up with the fit of whatever shotgun I had. Now, it gets fitted to me PDQ and my shooting is all the better for it.

These just may be The Good Old Days......
 
Dave, there ain't nothing wrong with old school. I'll take old school over new school just about any day of the week. Hell, I still use a map, compass and a watch and it gets me there the same as one of those gps units.
 
Jeff, Son and I just had a go around over GPS units. As I am with shotguns, he is with electronics.

I've a pile of ADC maps, some knowledge of the area (7 years driving limos will do that) and can find North PDQ.

He's a master of Mapquest Fu.

We both get where we need to go....
 
Old school: Crotchity old farts whining about these new tacticool punks.

New School: New kids on the block trying to figure out what makes the fudds so danged crotchity.

:)
 
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