I have been wanting to try some 4f. Let me know, maybe we can work something out.
Oldest Firearm I own. Queen Anne Turn Off Pistol
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Or send it to me?!! I really like 4f powder!!
I'm not sure I'm willing to get rid of it just yet. I have a small black powder 22 short I'm trying to load for and that seems appropriate for it. I also have a bicycle gun that is just about the same size as a 22 c c m and I have the dies to load that as well. Both seem likely candidates for 4f powder. Lyle, if you and I can get together you can certainly try some of mine.
Testing Google photos and posting some videos. Here is the 19 second video firing the Queen Anne. I have since fixed the issue of reliably holding the flint in place.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WSioUnRcbdnL2d98A
I am interested if people who don't have a Google account can view the video.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WSioUnRcbdnL2d98A
I am interested if people who don't have a Google account can view the video.
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Yes. I saw it.
whughett
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I viewed it. Option was to go to Google or view on web. I viewed on web with my IPhone. Did you hit the intended target. Nice little recoil too..
whughett
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LOL. From the stance I can see you weren’t really sure of what was going to happen at hammer fall. . 
whughett
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I can understand your enthusiasm. Ive an 1864 Burnside Carbine I shot severely times this summer. I’m slowly restoring a Remington civil war revolver that was completely rusted. Weeks of Evaporust treatment and I was able to disassemble it. It’s complete and will function but will never fire a round. It will be a wall hanger.
Having a piece of family history is fantastic!
Family history would be great but not in my family. I grew up in New York and as far as my family was concerned only the police and bad guys had firearms. I wasn't allowed to have a toy gun when I was a kid.
I guess I'm responding to that limitation in my adulthood.
It would certainly put a hurt on an assailant at the intended distance. Which is contact distance. It has no sights and being a center hammer, no place to install and use sights.
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I haven’t read, how much powder under the ball.
It holds 20 grains of 3FG powder. I haven't tried it with 4FG yet. And probably won't. It doesn't ever need to fire a top load. I may try the COW as a filler and see how low I can go. But 20 grains seems more than adequate for its intended purposes.
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Good to see you got it up and running.
This one was not expensive. Certainly under $400. Might have been under $300. I don't keep dollar records on my purchases. It gives me 'plausible deniability' with she who must be obeyed. "Honest, I don't remember what I paid for it". I got it on Gunbroker but it was at a local store, so I was able to see it before bidding on it.
It was an odd GB auction. Like I said, I was able to see it before I bid on it, but couldn't tell if I could make it shoot or not. I know I didn't spend over $400 because I won't pay $400 for a wall hanger. Bids just didn't come in for some reason. I'm pretty sure it was closer to $300 than to $400. I got a similar deal on an 1898 Krag Rifle. A few years ago, but if I remember correctly I got it for less than $400 as well when they were all going for $750 and up. I remember the owner of the store saying 'sometimes I win, sometimes I lose' when he handed me the rifle.
In reality the gun isn't that valuable. It was a so called Ketland 'Trade Gun' made in England specifically for trade with America. Now if it had been the same model Ketland made for the domestic market in Europe the value would be significantly higher.
I believe that this Ketland was made for the domestic market in Europe. It has the company name engraved on the side while the one I have the company name is stamped.
A Very Small Flintlock Pocket Pistol by Ketland of London (garthvincent.com)
A Very Small Flintlock Pocket Pistol by Ketland of London (garthvincent.com)
white smoke
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Model 1 3rd issue Smith
and Wesson .22 short. They were in production from 1868 - 1882
and Wesson .22 short. They were in production from 1868 - 1882That sir is gorgeous. I've been looking for one like that for a couple of years but just can't bring myself to pay what is being asked for them.
I see the BB Caps in the box. How do you keep the balls from falling out when you shoot a full cylinder full of them?
white smoke
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Would you believe I have shot just one of those to test function. You make an interesting point though. The projectiles aren't in there very tight. This is a piece that was in my wife's family.
