One hand rapid fire, which gun is the most controlable?

[albanian]

Which self defense gun chambered in a real self defense caliber is the most controlable for you? I would say that .380 is the minium and if you think the it should be a smaller caliber, your nuts! .380 or better yet, 9mm as the minium. It can be a revolver if that is what you CCW.

The reason I asked this is because a few years ago, I realized that there are some awsome guns out there that are just too big or too powerful to handle well in rapid fire with one hand or weak hand. I carried my SIG 220 and had much respect for it but when I had to shoot it weak side one handed rapid fire, I found out the these normally mild mannered pistol turned into a Lake Trout in my grip. I was starting to lose my grip by the time the mag was empty. I put my shots on target but it was not a good feeling.

One handed, my choice is the Kahr K-9. I can really get a vise like grip on this one and even in weak side one hand rapid fire shooting, I have total control.

There are some guns out there that I know I would have a hard time trying to shoot one handed. Double stake .45acps must be tough to control for people with medium to small sized hands.

 

[Ford]

The answer will depend on the person. In my case I shoot my Kahr PM9 the best one handed. All my other handguns except for 3 are .45's though. A 9mm pistol is easier for me to controll firing one handed than a .45.

 

[Chipperman]

In my hands, it's my P7M13.
The P7M8 is close, but the extra weight of the M13 dampens recoil.

 

[bubbygator]

Browning High Power in 9mm. I can shoot 18 quick shots inside of 5 inches at 15 yards - that's good enough SD for me.

 

[critter]

As chipperman said, the P7 series is it for me. I do not have an M13, but I do have an HK P7 M8. It even outclasses (for me) the big ole heavy 9mm's like the Beretta 92's when you really want to 'burn through' a mag full AND hit something!

Gas retarded blowback and VERY low barrel axis is what it is I guess. The fantastic trigger helps too. All steel and a grip large enough to get a good hold on also helps. You REALLY need to shoot one if you haven't.

 

[HSMITH]

A M19 S&W in 357 magnum. The DA pull brings the gun right back down from recoil. After that I shoot 1911's in 45 acp best weak hand only.

 

[Standing Wolf]

For me, it'd be a four-inch Colt Python.

My normal hold is one-handed. I'm able to hold a gun in two hands, but shoot better the way I've practiced all these decades. The Python is my idea of the most controllable self-defense gun, although I'll admit I carry my pre-agreement model 60 more frequently.

 

[kngflp]

I always run a few mags thru my p-11 weak handed from retention because that is most likely how this gun will be used. I can dump the mag into an IDPA target close up real fast. I also practice the same drill with my Taurus 650, loaded with .357 is not pretty but with .38 it is managable.

 

[caz223]

The ambi friendly, steel framed, fixed barrel, gas-op, single stack 9mm, P7!
The slide action is damped because of the gas op configuration.
Also, the barrel does not move, less mass moving around.
The downside is, of course if you have an ammo or limp wrist induced jam it's VERY difficult to clear on the P7 with one hand.
At least it is on mine.
If the ejection port was lowered a bit, maybe at a smith that know what's going on, that gun would be IDEAL.
It really doesn't jam if you clean it, feed it good stuff, and treat it like a weapon, not a toy.
The P7 can be drawn and put into action faster than any other pistol I've tried.
1911/CZ ties for second.

 

[Chipperman]

Have you had a P7 jam that you attributed to limp wristing?

I have never had that happen, and I'm doubtful that I could even try to induce a jam by limp wristing a P7.

 

[Coltdriver]

That is an interesting question and one that has led me on a journey through about 15 different hand guns to get where I am today.

I am really good with a j frame snub nose .38. I am shooting some hand loaded 158 grain wad cutters from my snub nose and shooting it fast and accurate is easy, I do practice a bit every other week or so but I practiced a lot to get my grip right. It gets carried more than any other gun in my collection.

I also shoot a compact FN 9mm really well when shooting fast and single handed. The FN is a small Hi Power and the grip angle and size make aiming very natural. The regular HP is a great pointer too but for my taste its a bit big for concealed carry.

I have been learning to shoot a 3 1/2 inch barrelled N frame but I am no where near accurate or fast when shooting single handed. Just need more practice.

Follow up shot accuracy is my main requirement for any pistol. If you can't recover from the first shot and make the second accurate then caliber will not help you.

 

[Harry Paget Flashman]

For me it's the Glock 17C, but only with hearing protection.

Which brings up an interesting question...as most of us use hearing protection (I assume) which gun would be best for CCW rapid fire? You don't really know how loud your gun is if all you've ever done is shoot it with hearing protection or how bad you'll finch on subsequent shots. A friend let me shoot his Glock 22C years ago. I wasn't using hearing protection(dumb) and the porting made for one hellacious BOOM! I fired 5 or 6 subsequent rounds and it was all I could do to hold the gun on target because the report so so painful. My ears rang for hours.

So what's most controllable for CCW armed response and how do we know?

 

[Curare]

The P7M8 is not gas operated--it's gas retarded. The gas actually counters the blow back of the slide, aiding the recoil spring.

 

[Souris]

FEG P9R Hungarian copy of the High Power. Great gun DA/SA Accurate cheap and easy to fire quickly with either hand. Unfortunantly, it's more than I to conceal in AL in the summer

So for carry I have to say my little colt Mustang is the best for me right now.

 

[Soap]

5" 1911 in .45ACP or a G17. Both are somewhat heavy and have a long sight radius.