One More Time: HP Vs CZ75B

[Tecolote]

When it comes to Browning HPs and CZ75s, my luck has been pretty bad. I bought a used HP but it took two men, a boy and a mule to work the trigger. It also jammed on FMJ. I've gone through CZs with mixed results. I, however, like the cocked/locked design and they both fit my hands very well. I like HPs but I got sticker shock when I saw that NIB ones cost around $650, that's about $200 more than a CZ. Should I save my money and go with a CZ or splurge and spend on a HP?

 

[Jiml3]

I have a CZ75 PCR compact with a decocker and it is my favorite pistol. I also
have a Browning HP that I like very much but not as much as the CZ. The triggers on both are a little tight but after awhile the PCR smooths out nicely
and of course the CZ is about $200. cheaper.

 

[bruss01]

Not really sure what you're asking. If it literally took both hands pulling to get the trigger to pull on the HP (I guess you were exagerating a bit for dramatic effect) then there was obviously a problem with it or you have very weak hands. My Ruger GP Revolver has a heavy trigger pull at about 13# but is still easily pullable for a person with average hand strength. If your HP was heavier than that, it ought to have been looked at by a repair person. If it was lighter than that it was probably functional but couldn've needed some tuning to be "sweet".

Don't know what your issues are with CZ, you didn't say. "Mixed results" could mean anything from "didn't like the color" to "Every third one I've fired blew up and nearly took my hand off". I can't speak to the HP's, but I have owned a CZ 75b which I have used at the range for casual target practice and also for several armed defense classes where thousands of rounds have been fired. I haven't noticed any problems with it. It's currently in the shop getting an action job, not because there's any real problem with it but because I'd love for it to "be all that it can be". It was a fine gun right out of the box and will be even better after a little TLC from an expert CZ smith.

Maybe you are looking for something different than I am in a firearm. Fits my hand, goes bang every time, hits what I point it at with reasonable accuracy, not hard on the eyes at all... maybe I'm just easy to please?

Whatever you get, don't be afraid to have it looked at by a pro who knows what they're doing and has handled hundereds of guns just like yours. They will tell you either "Yup, I know that model and that's as good as they get" or "Well, it's a little stiff or gritty and here's what I can do to fix it up sweet for you". With today's legal atmosphere, almost no one sells guns right out of the box that are "sweet" and light triggerd, too much liability. If you keep selling one and buying another hoping the next one will be better, you are chasing a rainbow. Buy something that has POTENTIAL for what you want, and then be resigned to invest a little time money and effort in helping it become the ideal you know it is capable of becomming.

Free advice, and worth every penny.

 

[MrAcheson]

My HP is the most reliable gun I own. It has never jammed. I bought it from cdnn when they were blowing out the FNs. I did have the mag safety removed and the trigger cleaned up professionally to take care of the notoriously bad HP trigger.

It's really up to you. HPs are like like 1911s, spendy but classic. You really should budget for trigger work (and maybe new grips) on top of the cost of the gun. CZs aren't quite as classic, but they're still pretty darn good. If that $200 is precious to you, I could certainly understand buying the CZ.

 

[DouglasW]

75b vs. BHP

I have the PCR and love it. Plus I just encouraged my brother to pick up his first CZ, so I might be a little biased .

So instead of me offering my biased opinion, here's a nice comparison between the two and a fairly objective review of the 75b, by a BHP lover who I think is a member here on THR.

So I love and trust CZs...but if a BHP popped up at a good price I'd surely snatch it up....

Good luck with your decision

 

[DFW1911]

I have a High Power and have never had a problem with it. In fact, I used to carry it as my CCW in the early 90's.

To me it points more "naturally" than any other handgun on the market. Now that you can get 15 round magazines (that fit flush) I think it's even more appealing.

I may have just talked myself into carrying it again

The good news is I don't think you an go wrong either way, so good luck and be happy with your decision.

Take care,
DFW1911

 

[bigmike45]

I have a stainless CZ75B and three Hi Powers. I really like the Hi Powers. I personally shoot them a little more accurately than the CZ. I really like the single action trigger as oposed to the double action CZ. I personally think the Hi Power is a gorgeous gun and better looking than my CZ.

bigmike

 

[JDGray]

I personally like splurging on CZs, the BHP dosn't appeal to me

 

[OhioPaints]

I really like the single action trigger as oposed to the double action CZ.

The CZ can be carried SA "cocked and locked". There is also a SA only model.

I bought a used HP but it took two men, a boy and a mule to work the trigger.

Yes! I had two Browning HP's and the triggers were so bad that sometimes I thought the safety was on. They must have done their trigger and sear polishing with 40 grit sand paper. I sold them and later bought a FEG HP. It was a little rough at first but smoothed out nicely. IMO, the FEG is a lot better (and less costly) gun than the Brownings. Unfortunately, I just read where FEG is no longer in business

I have a CZ-75B and it's been 100% reliable all the time. I used to shoot it a lot. It is a heavier gun and slightly larger than the HP.

Ken

 

[Wasz]

A FFL I've dealt with for years is a HP guy. Hes the kinda guy who has his favorites. S&W, HPs that kind of deal. My dad grew up with him and hes been a shooter since forever I guess. He sells CZs and HPs his take is this. If he has the choice he buys the HP because thats what he likes. As far as hes concerned though they aren't $200 better than the CZs. Buy the HP if you want and can spend it. If not then don't feel like you missed out if you buy the CZ. (PS my SP-01 is awesome)

 

[Trebor]

I have two of each, all of them full size.

I prefer the CZ overall. The High Power feels a little better in my hand, but I always shoot the CZ's better. (The CZ feels good too, it's just that the HP feels like it was custom fitted to my hand).

The High Power would make a nice second choice to the CZ for me if both my CZ's were stolen, lost, etc.