Open Carry Mace Pepper Spray Pepper Gun in Florida?

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The statute doesn't specify the delivery method for carrying pepper spray, so you should be good under the law. The way that it looks will likely attract attention from local law enforcement or nosy neighbors, if that is a concern. I'd still recommend asking the Sheriff or an attorney.
 
I plan on getting some mace to carry as well for unruly dogs in my area as well. As much as I would be comfortable carrying a gun shaped canister, I think it is better to go with the more traditional form factor of pepper spray to avoid clashes with law enforcement.
 
Anything that looks like a gun potentially can attract attention. It limits how you can carry it. I carry a small 3" container of 15% Pepper Mace with me in a small side pocket on my pants. It is in a leather carrying case with a key ring on it. It small size makes it very handy for a variety of carry methods. It would easy to hang it on the stroller with a quick release clip.

I have tested this product which is called "Back Off" and it is very strong. It only takes a little bit.
 
While , IMHO, it would be legal, you have to think about possible consequences. Example, what if some irate dog owner thinks you are about to execute his dog? Things that LOOK like guns invite other guns. No, I have no proof of that assertion. But how many people have been shot by law enforcement because it "looked like a gun" or "I thought he had a gun".

I think, for your own safety, you want all parties concerned (bystanders, dog owners, police) to know that you are using pepper spray. I would not rely on people to read the side of your gun-shaped delivery mechanism before taking action on their own.
 
That's the unit I saw two Guardian Angels (national volunteer street security force) members openly-carrying last weekend. That little grip is tiny; looked like a mini flare gun.

Just carry it in your pocket. It's small enough. Or, if your stroller has a "parent tray" at the top of the handle (ours even had a compartment with a lid on it.), just lay it there with something over it.

When involved in a confrontation in which a chemical weapon is brought, use loud and assertive verbal commands that include the threat that someone (an assailant or a person's dog) is "about to get sprayed!"
 
OC sprays; training....

To my knowledge, there are no restrictions or statues re; pepper spray(OC sprays) in the sunshine state. :D
There is a part of the Florida statue that says you can not use OC spray on a sworn LE officer.
I asked a investigator about the oz limits for chemical agents & he informed me he never heard of or saw any restrictions/ordinances. The state employee work for the FL Division of Licensing, www.Mylicensesite.com & retired from JSO(Jacksonville FL) after 35 years. ;)

I'm not a fan of the Mace/pepper gun design. I've purchased & toted a few brands over the years(G security officer). I wanted to get the Sabre Green Crossfire OC spray but it's not a open source item. :(
The firm only deals in bulk or contracts for LE/military at this time.

I purchased some Mean Green cone style spray; www.copsplus.com . It's a mark III size & seems potent. I also recently got a larger mark IV size Vexor OC unit(micro-spin) to carry on security details. The Vexor spray is powerful & in use with a few corrections/LE agencies nationwide. Note; this is a restricted item in some locations, see your local-state laws before you order.
BTW; I advise against the Zarc/Vexor "yellow safety" format. It's awkward to deploy quickly or under stress. It's also not easy to use without both hands. :mad:
Just get the regular "flip top" version. It's safe but fast to use in a critical incident.

I'd add that if you are a FL resident, you may want to get the latest copy of www.floridafirearmslaw.com . It explains a lot of self defense & gun related Florida statues. It's written by a Winter Park area lawyer who consults a lot of media & law offices on 2A/self defense issues.
Id close by suggesting you get formal training if possible on OC sprays too. These courses run $35-45.00 USD & can document your proper training in the use/legal issues of chemical agents.
I took a class with a great cadre, www.S2institute.com in the Tampa area. You may never need to deploy OC but a formal class can show a jury or prosecutor that you took the effort to be properly trained.

Rusty
PS; yes, I did get sprayed with a diluted Mace spray. :D
 
Charlie Horse said:
This is what I carry on duty, and was recently certified on. Very unpleasant and supposedly works well on dogs...
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Freeze +p is what I ordered last night after my first post in this thread. I have a few friends in police departments all over AL and that is what they are issued. Many of them say they would rather be tazed than sprayed with Freeze +p.
 
Flame on!....

Be aware too if the OC spray or chemical agent is alcohol free or can work with other EDWs(Tasers).
It may sound like a bad Mythbusters, but there have been cases of pepper sprays or Mace agents have a subject get stung with a stun weapon then; whoosh call the FD! :eek:

A patrol officer in the Daytona Beach Florida area in the early 2000s, aimed & fired a Taser at a aggressive subject. The points ruptured a cheap lighter in the guy's shirt pocket then whoosh. :rolleyes:
He sued the officer, the LE agency & the city. If I recall the man had serious burns that took years to heal.

Rusty
 
Rusty, supposedly all of the flammable stuff is off of the market, but that doesn't mean some old stuff isn't lurking out there somewhere.


Is it just me, or is some jerk making those labels smaller and harder to read?:D

Herrwalther, I'm one of them. I truly feel sorry for anyone who takes a hit from it. The old stuff was unpleasant, but freeze +P is some of the nastiest stuff I've ever come into contact with. The reason is that its both pepper and tear gas. I thought was I starring in a remake of Ghostrider.

It works and works immediately, unless the subject is one of the few that is immune, and these people do exist. Better than wasp spray because all sprays designed for use on people are "food grade." Other that the desired effect, it won't do anything worse to them. With insecticide, you run the risk of making some offender wealthy by way of some lawyer he saw on tv.
 
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It works and works immediately, unless the subject is one of the few that is immune, and these people do exist.
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I've met one of those people going through NBC training in the military. As I understand it, the probability is relatively low 1 in 500,000 or something like that. It is probably less but since most people avoid getting pepper sprayed/tear gas it is hard to tell.
 
You could also just buy a can of wasp spray - longer range, cheaper, and will work
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for use inside your house,yes. since it is not approved by statute as pepper spray is,you could be arrested,i would not use that as a personal defense spray carried normally.for in house use it leaves no lingering pepper spray smell inside.
 
oneounceload said:
You could also just buy a can of wasp spray - longer range, cheaper, and will work
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I wish people would stop suggesting this.

Frankly, it is stupid advice.


A. Longer range? Than what? Not a large canister of OC spray intended for use on animals.

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B. No one can point to any non-anecdotal data for the efficacy of hosing someone down with an unknown (possibly lethal, probably Pyrethrin) insecticide in an unknown aerosol carrier.

C. We use OC spray not because it is the most effective chemical for the job, but because it is the safest chemical for the job.

Charlie Horse said:
I thought was I starring in a remake of Ghostrider.
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Better you than Nick Cage. *shudder* ;)
 
Post 10 & 15 reply.....

Also, with any bug or hair spray, you don't know how flammable or toxic it is. :uhoh:
A lot like the 007 scene from the 1970s. ;)

I'd stick to a high quality brand that has a marking agent(UV) & is in use by corrections/LE.
Also, keep in mind; many OC containers have a shelf life or a limited time, 3/4/5 years. check the labels, the production date should be on it.
Hot weather, humidity or other environmental factors may affect the results too.
Don't toss OC in a motor vehicle then leave it there for 5 years, thinking it will function. :rolleyes:
 
for use inside your house,yes. since it is not approved by statute as pepper spray is,you could be arrested,i would not use that as a personal defense spray carried normally.for in house use it leaves no lingering pepper spray smell inside.
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You are carrying it in case you are attacked by a swarm of wasps/yellow jackets/hornets while out with your child. A mongrel dog comes after you, you had to use whatever was handy.

I wish people would stop suggesting this.

Frankly, it is stupid advice.
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Not if you live in an area where OC spray is illegal; called improvising
 
I've used my stun gun against dogs that act threatening when my wife and I are out for a walk.
Just hit the button and that loud snapping sound and the bright spark confuses and frightens them. Little dogs, big dogs, it doesn't seem to matter. They back off right away. No one gets hurt.

I carry my stun gun in a large cell phone holster on my belt. It attracts no attention, but it's quick and easy to get to.
 
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