Open carry vs. concealed carry poll.

Do you feel open carry is safe?

  • Yes, open carry is safe, and a great deterrent!

    Votes: 143 61.6%
  • No, it encourages gun snatching attempts, and you lose the element of suprise!

    Votes: 89 38.4%

  • Total voters
    232
  • Poll closed .
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I voted NO. Not because it encourages gun snatching, but because of the attention from the cops it attracts. In CT, if you open carry, you will likely be arrested and have your permit revoked, even though it is technically legal.....mp510

If it is technically legal then it is legal. I don't see where they, the CT police, can violate the law in an effort to enforce it? I am confused.
 
Both have their place. I'd much rather carry open in a society that accepts firearms as necessary tools. I'd move my sidearm front and center in a crossdraw holster where it's easier to access when I'm sitting.

But hey, I'm in CA so I don't carry here at all -- only when I go out of state and then it's strictly concealed.
 
I open carry every day in Virginia and have done so since May 2006. I have never once had anyone say anything rude or negative about the fact that I was carrying a gun. In fact, the only comment made concerning my gun came from a 7-Eleven shop owner who asked me if I was a PO. When I told him "no" and explained that it was legal, he informed me that I was welcome to carry any time I visited his store.

Edited to add: Are there places I choose not to open carry? You bet. I use common sense when deciding my carry mode. I generally do not open carry at the mall or bank, even though i have done so in the past a few times. Most rational people realize that bank robbers do not fill out deposit slips and wait patiently in line for their turn to speak to a teller.
 
If everyone had a gun then open carry would be fine. Since most people don't carry, losing the element of surprise for the one guy with a gun probably ain't the best idea.
 
Open or concealed. Location and company dictate the mode of dress. I like to have the option - and we should all have that option. Free to choose. Revolver or pistol - concealed or for all the world to see!
 
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII.....dunno, at least not strongly enough one way or the other to vote in the poll.

If I DID open carry (someplace besides around the house, yard, and whatnot)...I would probably feel much more comfy doing so with a holster with some sort of "extra" retaining system, like a...Blackhawk Serpa(?) with the push button. Or even just a strap. JUST in case...
 
Another poll with extreme choices that are polar opposites, and no realistic middle-ground choice.
 
Polarity can be good at times -- or at least illuminating. Ain't nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos.

There are all sorts of circumstances where I wouldn't open carry. Few where I would is more accurate. However, the choice would be based my on my sense of fitness and etiquette (not to mention the law) than on fear of having the gun grabbed or being targeted by bad guys.

There are times when, in my opinion, it is not only acceptable but ethically necessary to be openly armed.
 
I can't prove it, but I believe that there were a few times when open carry on my part averted some trouble (just a gut feeling).

I really like to have my sidearm visible when new or potential new neighbors show up - it sorta sets the tone right up front. If they don't like it, then maybe they should buy somewhere else, or if they're already here then they can get used to it sooner rather than later :p
 
the "theyd just grab an OC gun from a civilian" is based on the assumption that most people on the street dont have what it takes to put 3 or 4 158 grainslugs into someone.
Looks are another big factor in open carry. For example, the liberal hippie looking with a mouse gun on her hip, shed be picked off quickly as being seen to unable to use it.
However 300 pound biker dave with a glock on his hip would be untouched as bikers are considered to be rather violence happy.

But it does make things easier, no coat to snag a gun.
 
I dont have a CC holster, so if Im carrying its OC. Do you consider it OC still if its on my belt, but under my shirts and/or jacket?
I got called out last year by my aunt for OCing at the family Christmas party. I had been hunting that day and didnt take the gun off my hip. I had my camo shirt tucked in so it was in plain site b/c at that time I didnt have a my permit. OC is legal in VA without a permit. She also made a comment about the sheaths on my belt(leatherman and Buck110).
No one else seemed to care. I really want to avoid that type of confrontation in public. Ive seen a few ppl(other than LEO) OC handguns around town before. But its not very common. Doesnt bother me, I wish more ppl would OC, then it wouldnt be looked down upon so much by the ones who "dont get it".

Remember, the guns you can see are probly the good ones. The BGs usually have theres stuck in there underwear "gansta style".

Matt
 
There is a time and a place for everything. However, generally speaking, if I'm carrying a gun or a knife for defensive purposes, I don't want my adversary to be aware of this fact until after he's either been shot or stabbed - or both.

Biker
 
Ah, the dreaded gun snatch.

Most who are afraid of open carry haven't tried it. Many of us who carry openly have told you that the fear of the gun snatch is unfounded. Apparently speculation is much more believable than data. Such is the power of superstition.

Concealed carry is the worst thing to happen to open carry. In states where open carry was once common, it is now uncommon. Before concealed carry, criminals did not snatch guns off of the hips of open carriers. But now, if people started carrying openly again, they would? Say what?

There is one fear that is founded in fact in some states, and that is harassment from police. Documented and real in some places. Needs serious activism.
 
Perhaps "middle" was an incorrect word choice; but still, the choices are polar opposites, when both are at least partially true, yet absolutist, and therefore not fully true. I open carry in a police uniform, but must, by policy, conceal when out of uniform under most circumstances, so I have some acquaintance with the subject matter. Looking at the first choice, well, life is not safe, but here are times open carry will increase one's personal safety, and times it will make things more perilous. Looking at the second choice, the presence of a weapon alone is not a dependable deterrent, and of course, the element of surprise cannot exist, assuming the "surprise" is the mere presence of the weapon. The resolute, alert man is the deterrent, and a resolute, alert man visibly armed with a weapon is more of a deterrent. An inattentive man is low-hanging, ripe fruit, ready to be harvested, whether visibly armed or not.
 
Oc - Cc?

Reference the statement "there is one fear that is founded in fact in some states, and that is harassment from police" (Ah, the dreaded gun snatch). No, there is more than that - in NM, our latest change in statute allows CC in establishments that sell alcohol for off premises consumption, but not OC (can,t tell you why). Also, federal "Gun Free School Zones" (1000' restriction) allow CC up to school boundary (and in parking areas) within (only) the state the CC license is issued, but not OC. That essentially bans OC in my small town, as the 1000' restricted area overlaps most of the town. Back to the conundrum of weird and useless law making! :mad:
sailortoo
 
sailortoo said:
in NM, our latest change in statute allows CC in establishments that sell alcohol for off premises consumption, but not OC (can,t tell you why).
Isn't it weird? In VA, I believe it is, OC is allowed in bars/liquor-serving estsablishments, but CC is not. I'm not sure on this (never carried in VA), but I remember reading something to that effect.

I personally have OC'ed several times. Perfectly legal in ME, and up until I got my CFP a month ago, it was the only way to carry my sidearm with me. I concur with JesseL in that most people simply don't notice, and the rest just don't care. If I see an OC'er, I usually pay attention, but only to see what he's carrying. I personally believe the merits of easy access and deterrence outweigh the potential downfalls of snatchings and target prioritization. I am glad that I do have the choice, though.
 
sailortoo said:
Also, federal "Gun Free School Zones" (1000' restriction) allow CC up to school boundary (and in parking areas) within (only) the state the CC license is issued, but not OC.
Incorrect. The GFSZ act makes no distinction between concealed and open carry. What the GFSZ act says, if I recall, is that if you are licensed to carry, you are excempt from certain of its restrictions. It doesn't say you have to conceal
 
I have not read through all the posts but I see open carry as a purely political tool. It helps to teach/show people that people with guns are not whackos. Regular folks CAN be trusted to carry a firearm without shooting everyone who angers them.

I think that open carry goes a long way towards teaching people that they don't need to fear guns.
 
Oc - Cc?

The "Gun Free School Zone" was a major study for a while on a defunct post. The reason I stated CC yes, OC no, was because, partly, of the alcohol sales stated in a previous post. NM has had OC since forever, but the GFSZ did not allow any carry, unless CC licensed. It becomes a "lawyer speak" problem, and I sure don't want to be the test case. I personally consider CC yes, OC no in GFSZ - but IANAL! :)
sailortoo
 
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