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Open Letter to Volk

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Bainx, Nov 3, 2007.

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  1. Bainx

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    Oleg, one of our members charges that you are directly responsible for this article by The Knoxville News Sentinel:

    http://www.wbir.com/news/maps/handguns.aspx

    Please tell me this is not the case!

    Signed,
    Bainx
     
  2. average_shooter

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    That's not even an article.
     
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    The link did not open for me.
    Jerry
     
  5. Bainx

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    Perhaps I should have been more direct. You click on a
    Tennessee county and up come flags with the addresses of those who have a CCW. mod edit - Incorrect, the information is a composite of census data for the census tract and the population and number of TN HCP holders. There are no names or addresses or any specific information to any individual.

    Do I need to repeat myself.
    Do you get it?
    Are you internet savy enough to figure it out?

    Gee......

    mod edit - non THR rudeness and name calling removed
     
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  6. bluestarlizzard

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    click the bold writing "commentary explaining the map"
    slightly disturbed, yet understanding. it was a socialogical experiment, that resulted in data that could be used for or against gun owners.
     
  7. average_shooter

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    The map itself aside, you are claiming Oleg is responsible. Care to explain how?
     
  8. Slugless

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    One of who's members?

    It is rude and inappropriate to abuse Jerry.
     
  9. Bainx

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    There is a link above the map that links to the "article" about carry permits.
     
  11. Bainx

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    I am beginning to wonder about the motives of our founder of this website.
     
  12. average_shooter

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    Well, do you have any evidence that Oleg encouraged this?

    The poster on that other blog, "Joe Milkor," stated:

    I saw no supporting evidence, and thus refuse to condemn anyone...
     
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    Riiighhhttt.....Interesting how that person provided no evidence beyond "check THR". Can you find the thread in these forums where Oleg states he "encouraged" these people?
     
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    I think if you are wrong, one could argue you libelled Oleg...
     
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    average_shooter, i agree with you. it does not behoove anyone to jump to conclusions about the writers of this artical. and while i agree that posting aderesses of CCW holders by a media sorce is NOT responcible journalism, i see in the writing of the artical no indicatation of anti gun tatics, but rather a amatures attempt to do a sociological study about CCW holders and failing to prove a thesis one way or another.
    the map should be taken down. the tables and artical may remain.
     
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    That's all I saw. A census map.

    There is a statement that CCW permits are public record.

    Am I missing something?

    Or am I just not internet savvy enough to figure it out?
     
  17. average_shooter

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    Hmmm... Did I miss the addresses? I admit I only took a cursory glance at the map setup, but I didn't see any actual addresses posted. I saw the general area of interest marked.

    I would agree, though, that names and addresses should not be posted in such a fashion. And I agree with the assessment that this was simply an amateurish attempt at a sociological study.

    EDIT TO ADD:
    this is an example of the information I got off the map;
    As for addresses, I believe the info boxes on the map simply represent the geographic center of the individual areas of interest, not the address of permit holders. Maybe I'm still missing something...?

    EDIT TO ADD (Again):
    I'm also a cartography minor and would just like to say that most of the maps in that article are absolutely crap-tacular.
     
  18. Geno
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    Bainx said:

    Frankly, sir, I feel you should have taken it up in private with Oleg. It's called verify.

    BainX also stated:

    BainX:

    Allow me to be the first to point the way to the door if you're unhappy at THR. This is Oleg's house. We don't call people stupid either. Read the rules. Take The High Road.

    Doc2005
     
  19. plexreticle

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    Pure class.



    If you have a problem with Oleg why do you PM him instead of troll baiting your tinfoil hat drama all over his forum.

    Are you internet savvy enough to figure it out or are you just stupid?
     
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    My god man what is your problem! You have a serious attitude issue going on here, calling people stupid and making accusations isn't very THR. If you have a problem take it up with that person and get your facts straight first.

    Nuf said, done with this thread!
     
  21. Apple a Day

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    Bad form and more bad form. Admin's notified.
     
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    Bainx - looking at all the other things Olegs ever posted... I'm more apt to believe that you're anti.
     
  23. pax

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    Okay, everyone, please take a deep breath and slow down a bit.

    Bainx, I'm pretty sure Oleg is offline at the moment, equally sure he'll be along in awhile to answer your question.

    Understandable that people whose addresses are in that database might be a tad unhappy* about it, but still no need to take it out on each other. Especially not on THR.

    pax

    * "tad unhappy" = royally ticked off
     
  24. tkkr

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    This is obviously just a joke that was taken the wrong way.
     
  25. SouthpawShootr

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    We need that "eating popcorn" icon for times like this. Frankly, I surprised, given the tone of the OP in post #5, that this thread is still open.
     
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