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Opinion on Remington .22 Target ammo

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by MilitisDeii, Feb 23, 2011.

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  1. MilitisDeii

    MilitisDeii Member

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    Hello everyone.

    I am in need of really cheap
    .22lr ammo.

    I will start shooting .22
    Handguns in the next weeks
    and im very short on budget.

    What do you think
    about this ammo:

    http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3170883

    Don't get confused, it is a German page
    since I'm from Germany.

    Thank you for
    your answers

    MilitisDeii
     
  2. belercous

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    .22 Remmington ammo, even the match grade stuff, has a lot of duds. I won't buy it any more. Wolf makes decent match ammo for cheap, so does Agulia. I don't shoot anything but match grade since I like to hit what I aim at. (I usually shoot @ 50 yds and don't like more than a 1" spread.
     
  3. wanderinwalker

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    The Remington target isn't great ammunition, but it is tolerable. I find it very dirty and not very accurate in my pistols.

    How is the price on it? And can you find CCI ammunition over there? If you can, CCI Standard Velocity is superior to the Remington. The SK and RWS ammunition is better than either, but is more expensive (at least it is here) and if you are just starting out, the extra accuracy isn't needed, especially with a handgun.
     
  4. Boomerang

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    I watched my good friend put 10 shots into 1/4 inch at 100 yards with it using a Feinwerkbau rifle, but I wouldn't use it in a match because it's full of duds and probably inconsistent lot to lot. He was testing different boxes of ammo and the Remington green box just happened to be the most accurate on that day.
    It's perfectly fine for pistol practice, especially International Rapid Fire, where you use up a lot.
     
  5. bowyer19

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    Too many duds! I have better luck with balk Federal or winchester. In my pistol I use CCI Mini Mag copper plated solids when reliability counts.
     
  6. frankenstein406

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    Federal bulk boxes are good. Idk if that's common tho.
     
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    Pass on it. I wish that I did!
     
  8. medalguy

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    Where I go shoot on BLM land, there are tons of .22 cases on the ground so I know a lot of .22 is shot there. You can pick up handfuls of unfired .22 ammo and lots of it has primer strikes, and MOST of it is Remington. Personally I buy Federal .22 in the 555 cartons and have hardly any duds.
     
  9. DonP

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    YMMV but ...

    I shoot about 10 different .22's from Marlin model 60s (5 of them) a Remington Nylon 66, Winchester 62A gallery gun, Henry Golden Boy, Savage AJ7, Sears Model 41 (Marlin Model 101), Browning Buckmark, etc.

    1. Federal Auto Match 40 gr. (325 rounds per box and as accurate as any higher priced special match stuff I've bought.) Designed for semi auto use but just as accurate in my old single shot Sears Model 41.

    Auto Match was impossible to find for a year or so and the rumor was that Federal figured out how good it really was as bulk ammo and was selling the same stuff in a different box for twice the price as "Match Grade". It's back now.

    2. Federal bulk - 550 rounds per box (the blue stuff) almost as good as above but not quite as consistent at distances.
     
  10. rfwobbly

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    It's OK, but I much prefer the Federal Target.
     
  11. Boomerang

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    MilitisDeii, please let us know what type of gun and or sport you will be shooting and we can then get a better idea of what might work best for you.

    Much of the advice here is very good, but if you're shooting the European target guns, high velocity ammo will beat them up and you would do best to stick with standard velocity for those guns.
     
  12. oerllikon

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    I love the winchester bulk ammo. It works great in my friends buckmark target pistol, in my marlin 60, and in my 925 bolt action. The remington is VERY cheap stuff, and Ive experienced the same things people have noted above.
    Im a huge fan of the Fiocchi shooting dynamics ammo. Its very uniform, reliable, but the stuff i shoot out of my bolt action is very hot for .22. It beats the heck out of the buffer on my semi auto marlin 60. I believe it is 22hvcrn
     
  13. doc2rn

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    Do NOT buy that ammo! I made that mistake once, and I am still paying for it. I bought a brick of that "not highroad" stuff and over a third of it is duds. Even with multiple strikes around the base. You should get some Eley or Winchester, you will be happier with the results. Federal Target is the best IMHO.
     
  14. MilitisDeii

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    I will shoot a .22lr S&W revolver
    at 25m distance.

    With Federal bulk packs I had two duds
    per six shot cylinder.

    They ignited properly on the second strike but it is nonetheless
    very annoying.

    The ammo does not need to be very
    accurate but it shot work properly
    in a revolver.

    I have the problem that I can't buy
    ammo as cheap as you can do in the US.

    The 38€ for 1000 shots of .22 are over 52$
    and that is the cheapest ammo you can get.
     
  15. deadin

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    If you are getting 2 duds per 6 shot cylinder, that's a 33% failure rate, so your $52 per 1000 is actually $52 per 666. That means that you could afford to spend $78 per 1000 if you bought ammo that actually worked every time.
    How much does a better grade of ammo cost?
     
  16. Boomerang

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    Stopper.de has CCI Blazer for your same price of the Remington and Federal Target for just a little more.
    Both of those brands will go bang reliably and the Federal is very good for pistol.
     
  17. MilitisDeii

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    Thank you for the link.

    38,80€ for 1000 rounds is a very fair price.

    I think, I will take the CCI SV.

    Thanks to all posters for warning me
    not to take that junk ammo.

    Now I have another question:

    I would like to test some very high velocity
    .22s (just for fun, not serious practice).

    I have read that the CCI Stingers are very hot loaded
    and well made. But there is a problem:
    Due to the stupid German laws I can't buy them
    since I am not a hunter.

    Any alternatives?
     
  18. tarosean

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    Is it the Same Cylinders every time???
     
  19. bannockburn

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    For me, Remington ammo has always been extremely poor, with more misfeeds, misfires, and duds per 50 round box than any other rimfire ammo I have ever used. This applies to just about every type of rimfire ammo they make. My best results accuracy wise have been with Wolf Match Target, along with Federal Auto Match and Federal Target. CCI MiniMags are also very accurate and reliable.
     
  20. Furncliff

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    CCI Mini Mag or CCI Blazer these two get over 1200 fps.

    CCI Velocitor... 1435 fps

    The stingers go over 1600 fps


    Just wondering.... is the German ammo maker SK available to you? I use the SK standard in my target rifle, that or the Wolf brand.


    Are you familiar with Midway? I buy ammo from them quite often. Here is their German web page...
    http://www.midwaydeutschland.com/
     
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  21. ThePunisher'sArmory

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    Well I bought 300 rounds of the stuff and hope it does better than evryone says......I have not had the chance to shoot it yet.
     
  22. ConstitutionCowboy

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    Remington 22LR duds that I've disassembled have had a gap in the primer right where the firing pin dimpled the case. I've never sorted through the powder to see if I could find the missing segment of primer, but when I've chambered the devoid-of-powder, bullet-less cases, positioned so the firing pin would strike in a new spot, they've all popped nicely upon firing. Whether the segment of primer was missing prior to firing or was knocked loose when struck, I can't say.

    Next batch of Remington 22's I get hold of that have misfires, I'll check more closely. I've never tried to second strike one that misfired, rotated so the firing pin would hit a new spot, so I'll try that as well before I disassemble the round.

    My best guess is that somehow the primer material doesn't adhere well to the brass and gets knocked out of the rim.

    Disclaimer: I'm neither a gunsmith nor a pyromaniac.:what: I'm just a layman tinkerer.:evil:

    Woody
     
  23. Larry E

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    If you're in Germany and want good .22 LR ammo see what you can find SKF for. It's made in Germany, and from my experience with Wolf which is made by SKF it's pretty good stuff.

    Not equal to Lapua or Eley maybe, but better than Remington and it always goes bang when the trigger is pulled. Federal and Winchester are much more reliable than Remington in my experience, and would be acceptable for learning for sure if it's available to you in Germany.
     
  24. MilitisDeii

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    The ammo of SK Schönebeck is readily avalaible
    here. It is indeed well made German ammo.

    But it is relatively expensive and since I am an
    beginner in shooting handguns I won't
    shoot as good as my gun and ammo would make
    possible.

    I think that I will stick to CCI SV as target ammo.

    But for fun purposes I would like to have high velocity
    .22 rounds.

    I would like to have a round with over
    150 footpounds of energy.

    What do you think about the CCI Velocitor?
     
  25. RimfireChris

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    Welcome. I haven't shot the Velocitor myself, but I've shot a lot of their other offerings, and they've all been great. Stay away from Remington, as the failure rate is absolutely unacceptable, as well as the fact that it's very dirty.
     
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