Opinions pls.

[nrmcolt]

Situation: An aggressor (could be male/female) is attacking someone with the intention of great bodily harm or even death with a deadly weapon in hand, you are a ccw holder(PTC), you draw your pistol at low ready and shout command to the attacker to drop the weapon which he/she does but, after dropping said weapon the attacker begin to advance to your position showing signs of aggressive behavior towards you but is unarmed.

Question: What would you do?

Thanks!

 

[Kjervin]

Move gun from low ready to pointing at the agressor and command to halt; if he does not, he gets shot. Any questions? I mean, what are you going to do, wrestle with him?
Kj

 

[CAS700850]

Armed individual in my home in the middle of attacking a family member? The shout wouldn't be heard over the sounds of the gunfire.

Seriously, if he dropped the weapon, then advanced, do what you need to do to stay safe.

 

[carebear]

An unarmed individual advancing into a drawn gun while ignoring commands can be presumed to be either intent on causing you harm, deaf and stupid, or insane. If they obeyed the previous commands, you can reasonably assume they aren't deaf or insane. To allow them to get too close is to allow them the chance to seize your gun.

As my ex-FBI Crim. Pro. prof. once said, "It's shootin' time."

 

[LaVere]

I'm old and retired. Not in the best of health. I could neather out run nor win in a hand to hand combat match. But Colt made me an equalizer, the gun. While I don't own a Colt brand my SA 45 acp will do at least 7 times. To paraphrase another poster "An old man with a gun WILL KILL you.



Shoot to slide lock, reload then check to see if the threat has stopped.

 

[Phoenix_III]

How about you always carry your Fox OC spray so it's a moot point, you can keep your 1911 in your strong hand at low ready, and use your OC without issuing any more commands. I would OC and act depending on how they took it. Might put them into a ball on the ground, might have no effect (drugs??). They could also go to draw a pistol or other deadly weapon while balling up, so be ready.

It is pretty lame to verbally challenge an aggressor (either against yourself or another), they disarm and come at you, you retreat, tell them to stop, they do not, and are shot (and killed).

Now you have to through trial(s) to prove your innocense, because the scumbag called your bluff and lost. This could destroy your relationships (some significant others have been known to leave after seeing or knowing that you ended a life through gunfire), bankrupt you (if you are facing a jury/lawyer combination that says well the 'kid' (18) was smaller than you why didn't you holster and hold them/hand to hand. What? You didn't want to 'take a chance' to save their life. $$$$$

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:banghead: that we even have to worry about retarded people making these decisions against us. If people realized... nevermind, this is long enough.

 

[Andrew Rothman]

Phoenix_III, it's possible that you could be more wrong, but I don't see how.

Please look up "Tueller Drill."

Now you have to through trial(s) to prove your innocense...

This is well known as "problem #2," and one must be alive to experience it.

It is also good to remember that when you are armed, and get into a wrestling match, Mongo may end up holding the gun.

 

[Technosavant]

Shoot.

Then, kick the BG's weapon over closer to where he fell. The beating victim isn't in any shape to be a reliable witness. Before the cops arrive, be sure to tell the story the same way EVERY time.

 

[Ivy Mike]

Technosavant, disturbing a crime scene is NOT a smart thing to do.

I was told a long time ago by a veteran of many court appearances to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Don't allow the attorney to skew your answers, but don't go out of your way to make it sound better for your side.

A savvy cop or crime scene investigator could very well detect that you've disturbed something. Then you have tampered with evidence AND lied to authorities.
This does NOT help you.
Leave everything how it fell, call cops and then call attorney.
Shut up until speaking with attorney.

 

[Sam]

nrmcolt,
I don't know what the law in the Phillipines says but here I am not legally obligated to warn someone prior to shooting them and I'm unwilling to give up the tactical advantage either. BOOM

Sam

 

[Zundfolge]

Yeah, what Sam said.

I don't intend to draw my weapon unless I'm justified in firing it.

I don't warn the guy with the weapon to stop attacking the other person ... that could easily turn the situation into a hostage situation (that's bad) or since it is a deadly weapon they could just shoot/stab or otherwise kill the victim (that's worse). You dont know if the attacker cares if he lives or dies, so you can't take the chance that his life matters to him enough to stop what he's doing when threatened.

Aim for center mass, focus on the front sight, fire, asses the situation, repeat as necessary.

 

[Wastemore]

I'm pretty new here and should probably listen instead of talking(typing?), but something I cannot seem to get past in your scenario, that is-

you draw your pistol at low ready and shout command to the attacker to drop the weapon which he/she does

There will be no shouting on my my end and my firearm never comes out unless I am sure it will be used. You've already stated "intention of great bodily harm or even death with a deadly weapon in hand". Why wait? Why issue a command? Announcing my armed presence, I've given him the opportunity to follow through with "great bodily harm/death".

Why give the BG another second?

 

[tanksoldier]

If I have to draw my weapon it's getting used.

When the BG crosses the line into justifying my use of deadly force, the force will be used and it will be deadly.

 

[rick_reno]

I'd take my cell phone out and call the POLICE. They'll help, that's what we pay them for.

 

[JamisJockey]

Call 911 and pray to a nondenominational multicultural diety?

Shoot, COM down to the pelvic region until the threat is stopped. Tactical (Diety, I hate that word) reload, check victim for injury, check BG for life signs, call 911.

 

[Sinsaba]

JamisJockey

Call 911 and pray to a nondenominational multicultural diety?

Shoot, COM down to the pelvic region until the threat is stopped. Tactical (Diety, I hate that word) reload, check victim for injury, check BG for life signs, call 911.

Don't you shoot COM up given the natural tendancy of the pistol to rise?

 

[JamisJockey]

Not really, since to control your fire properly you have to aim after every shot. Now, if you've barely cleared leather and have to start firing from the low ready, then you're firing on the way up to your line of sight and are firing from the midsection to COM, backwards.
If you let the pistol 'walk' the shots up with recoil, you're not going to be accurate enough to stay on target more than two or three times. Not sound policy to me.

 

[Bob F.]

I was thinking more along the lines of "head shot" if the range were sufficiently short, and/or be closing the distance.

Stay safe.
Bob

 

[Havegunjoe]

They are obviously after your gun.

If they get it they will use it against you and the previously mentioned victim. I shoot the bum if they do not immediately stop on command.