Ordered a new Hi-Point C9
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I purchased the 4095 Carbine and I have found it to be more accurate than the SB2000 and other than the magazine (the nose drop issue which can be alleviated by pushing the rear down after ever shell is loaded.) I love the weapon. Being ugly has never been as important to me as accuracy, customer service and being fully American built.
GunnyUSMC
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High Tower Armory makes the best looking replacement stock for the Hi-Point carbine, and can be yours for the low price of $250.
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I wonder why Hi Point hasn't come out with their own bullpup stock because they could definitely beat High Tower on the price. Heck, even if they made a bullpup design at the factory and could keep the price under $500, they'd sell a ton of them as they'd be the cheapest production bullpup on the market.
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Way back during the "O" administration we were told that they were going to get rid of "those cheap handguns" to make everybody safer. I purchased 6 HiPoints over the next 6 months to help them stay in business. I gave them away to family members for truck guns. That is what mine are used for now. Behind the seat, loaded and in a ZipLoc bag for that just in case need. Open baggie, pull slide, and rock and roll.
Seriously only one had feed issues the other eight worked as intended.
Seriously only one had feed issues the other eight worked as intended.
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A LGS/Pawnshop used to purchase state confiscated guns … mostly handguns.. mostly inexpensive handguns… I would dig through the boxes before they were put out on the shelf .. sometimes buying one handgun or up to a dozen … I would buy any and all Hipoint C9’s ..any condition .. sometimes 3 for $150 …some looked as if they were thrown out of a car at high speeds..
Some were like new ….
If they were bad .. off to Hi-Point … they would come back as new .. with a couple of new magazines….
Good pistols … I have owned probably a couple of dozen.. over the years .. they moved fast when sold .. great in trades
Some were like new ….
If they were bad .. off to Hi-Point … they would come back as new .. with a couple of new magazines….
Good pistols … I have owned probably a couple of dozen.. over the years .. they moved fast when sold .. great in trades
Trey Veston
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Glad the OP is happy with his decision.
I paid $180 for a Taurus G2c a couple of years ago and was seriously impressed. It is vastly superior to the Hi-Point in every way, except customer service. Hopefully the prices on them come back down to the $250 or less level and I will pick up one in .40 S&W for testing.
I paid $180 for a Taurus G2c a couple of years ago and was seriously impressed. It is vastly superior to the Hi-Point in every way, except customer service. Hopefully the prices on them come back down to the $250 or less level and I will pick up one in .40 S&W for testing.
FROGO207
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When I purchased my C9's in 2014 or so they were $99 to$119 depending on where they came from so I figured a good price at that point.
You do know the basic reason Taurus has bad Customer Service is they are made in Brazil. Their home base is in Sao Paolo and just the logistics of getting things back and forth helps make it bad. As long as you don't care if things are made in the USA I 've heard they are OK weapons.
GunnyUSMC
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You do realize that Taurus repairs their firearms in Georgia, Right?
Taurus International Manufacturing, Inc.
ATTN: Repair Department
100 Taurus Way
Bainbridge, Georgia 39817
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triplebike
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Just curious, in what way is your G2C vastly superior to your HI-Point. Is it more accurate? Does it have softer recoil? Does it fire with ammo that the Hi-Point doesn't? Are the sights better? Is the trigger better? How many rds have you fired with your G2C as compared to rds fired with your Hi-Point. My G2C was a nightmare of a gun, but in terms of comparison I have the 9MM Hi-Point carbine which isn't a fair comparison.
bassjam
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Probably because they decided they couldn't make a bullpup any more ugly than their carbine already is.
jimbo555
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I would buy the Ruger ec9 instead. About the same price
bassjam
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I bought a c9 several years ago. Reading all these posts on forums where half the people love them and the other half hate them got the better of my curiosity and I wanted to find out for myself how bad or good a $100 gun really is. Mine's been flawless and relatively accurate considering the trigger is horrid. I trust it enough that it's become my "garage gun".
Honeslty I was impressed by the value enough that I bought their carbine too, and liked that enough that I sprung for the HTA bull pup kit for it.
Honeslty I was impressed by the value enough that I bought their carbine too, and liked that enough that I sprung for the HTA bull pup kit for it.
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A Hi-Point goes bang for $100-$150.
A G2c is very similar to a G26, other than the strange-feeling trigger. I ended up with both of them. I kept the G26 because I liked the trigger better, but the G2c was equally accurate and similar enough in size to use the same holsters.
To me the G2c is in a different category aimed at a different market.
A G2c is very similar to a G26, other than the strange-feeling trigger. I ended up with both of them. I kept the G26 because I liked the trigger better, but the G2c was equally accurate and similar enough in size to use the same holsters.
To me the G2c is in a different category aimed at a different market.
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The Ruger is almost twice the price and because of it's size it's take much more practice to shoot accurately. The single mom in the inner city would be much better off with a C9. Easier to shoot accurately and a lot more affordable. Both companies do offer stellar customer service. Not sure if that is super important to poorer folks living paycheck to paycheck.
Trey Veston
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Not going to waste my energy trying to convince someone that this...
Is higher quality than this...
Average Joe
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Tried that so called fix, and many others, no difference....
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The other day I saw a Hi-Point C9 in my LGS. It was the first one that I have seen since “the silliness” began in early 2020. They had a $199 price tag on it. I was tempted to buy it as I have wanted to try one out for a couple of years now. I decided someone else might need it more than I do and passed on it.
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Your Quote ;
It is vastly superior to the Hi-Point in every way, except customer service. My questions are based on your quote. Something tells me you don't own or have owned a C9 to compare with your G2C. If so, how do you know if its vastly superior? Or is it that the G2C is prettier, so that looks determine "vastly superior in every way."
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Trey Veston
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No, I do not own a Hi-Point. I also do not have to stick my finger in a light socket to know it will hurt. I believe firearms experts who have reviewed them and found them to be lacking. I also do not own any number of crappy products because I did research and learned that they were junk. The Hi-Point works, usually, but is awful in terms of fit and finish, trigger quality, ergonomics, and overall quality.
It's obvious I've insulted you somehow by stating the obvious truth. Don't kill the messenger. Maybe you should contact these guys and get mad at them for stating the facts about the Hi-Point C9...
https://www.primerpeak.com/hi-point-c9-review/
The C9 comes in a cardboard box with one magazine, gun lock, manual, spare peep sight (3 dot sights installed) and a chamber flag. The Hi-Point series of guns have their own unique aesthetics. The grips are incredibly slick, with mild ribbing on the front and back straps. The slide has some shallow serrations to aid in manipulation, as the slingshot method will generally be your only way of chambering a round. The manual safety, which also acts as the slide lock, is a small metal bar, that activates and deactivates easily with no tactile response. When the slide locks open on empty the action isn’t actually locked as one would normally expect, as it can be drawn back slightly and then manually locked with the lever.
When firing the slide reciprocates with a sluggish “ka-chunk” as the massive brick atop the frame moves forward and back. The trigger is without a doubt the worst I’ve ever experienced; each pull being different from the last, with loads of take up, slack, stacking, and every other thing a good trigger shouldn’t have; Not to mention its heavy pull weight.
The sights are adjustable for both windage and elevation (Lord knows why), with the rear sight having two bright orange squares and the front a bright yellow blade. The sights were easy to pick up and are sized well, but frequently lose their zero when firing. I did not try the included ghost ring rear sight. The magazine that comes with the gun holds eight rounds, which frequently nosedive. Supposedly doing some work with pliers will improve reliability, but I made no attempt. There is also a magazine disconnect, something that I find detestable on handguns.
Conclusion
Overall, I regard the Hi-Point as nothing more than a novelty. If you need a handgun to protect yourself or your loved ones, shop elsewhere (EAA, S&W, and Ruger have solid options at slightly higher price brackets), or consider a long gun such as the Maverick 88. Spending a few more dollars on your initial investment will save you money and heartache down the road; believe me, I own a Hi-Point.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-hi-point-c9-9mm-pistol/
RATINGS (out of five stars):
Style * * *
You don’t buy a Hi-Point for its looks. It performs its job of looking “workhorsish” flawlessly.
Ergonomics (carry) *
For a “small” pistol (3.5″ barrel), the C9 has a profile exceeding full-size handguns. I’m not quite sure why you’d try to carry the C9 given it’s size and relative round capacity.
Ergonomics (firing) *
No. Without consciously avoiding anything approaching a high hand grip, expect to experience at least one “bite” from the C9. With all of the weight in the slide, and nothing in the frame, this 9mm “snaps” more than a typical .45.
Reliability nil
I could not make this gun go bang every time. That is my one gateway requirement to reliability. When I pull the trigger, it must go boom. When it goes boom, it must consistently be ready to go boom again. The fact that misfeeds and jams were the norm and not the fluke leads to my first ever “zero” rating. The good news: every USA-made Hi-Point carries a lifetime warranty. You’ll probably need it.
Customizability * 1/2
Two points for the optional ghost ring sights
Overall Rating * 1/2
Even at $155 MSRP, a pistol that doesn’t go bang every time is not to be considered affordable. Or useful, at least for reliable self defense. In certain scenarios, the Hi-Point could get its owner into deeper trouble than if he or she didn’t have a gun.
Conclusion
I would not buy a Hi-Point C9 on a bet, but I may end up getting stuck with one. Their PR peeps haven’t told me how to return the pistol.
In my research I've probably read/viewed just as many positive experiences as horror stories. Instead of simply taking others words I decided to expand my research and discovered simple fixes if needed that make them reliable shooters. I guess some just prefer to focus on the negatives only. Such is life.
Trey Veston
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Did you find simple fixes for the horrible triggers, slide bite, harsher recoil, and terrible ergonomics?
Ergonomics are subjective, as for the rest pretty much. All you have to do is look. If ya don't that's your problem, no one else's. If you don't like it that's fine, if you have no first hand experience then........ Well you know. BTW I've had numerous friends who've had friends, who, had friends, who've had friends tell them something........ I didn't listen to them either.
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