Outtakes show al-Zarqawi as poor gunman

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Zarqawi comes from a culture built on misogyny, machismo, and bluster-filled, chest-thumping declarations one's manliness.

An inability to handle the infidel's weaponry makes him look like a pathetic weakling.
 
The SAW is mind boggling easy to use.... You are talking to a ROTC cadet here whos introduction to the M249 was something like this "Here you can carry the SAW."

Step one: Insert linked ammo in loader tray thingy where it fits, only really goes one way.

Step two: pull charging all the way back and push foward all the way untill it clicks.

Step three: take safty off. Its the big button by the trigger.

Step four: take aim and fire in full auto only. It does not have a selector switch its full auto only. :D

Now, if it does not fire then you pull the handle back again, push foward and try again. If that does not work, lift tray lid, undo link put new shell in and repeat above steps.

Easy as pie.....

Also they put those nice handles o the top for a reason. So you don't burn your hand lifting the gun. :p
 
(Unfortunately) my wife gets a subscription to TIME. THey had a piece on him in a recent issue.

In the end, he grew up nothing more than a street thug. In prison in Jordan, he "found" Islam. He has also found that mixed with his thuggish ways, radical Islam can be a very influential way to get minions to do his duty.

He is nothing more than a very smart, very manipulative criminal that has found Islam as a way to create an enemy against the West. By being "the ultimate follower of Muhammed" he has a packaged formula for exerting power.

Firing a SAW is only a propoganda piece.
 
al-Zarqawi is an imposter.

Somebody made this clown up. He is fat, has baby skin, wears white tennis shoes and can't handle a gun. Great attributes for a killer. I swear he is as real as Ronald McDonald or Mr. Goodwrench.:fire: :fire: :fire:
 
Fact is, I have a very hard time believing that his propaganda machine would release a video like that. They had to know the effect it would have upon his followers. He looks like a damn fool. I ain't buyin' it.
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He also did a pretty good muzzle sweep of the sand ninja at the end.

The SAW is a 'very heavy' weapon? The what is Ma Duce? A BFG? (Well, it is!)

I wanted to kick that 'senior pentagon' reporter in the nuts.. only thing he didn't do is tell zar-cowi that he wanted to have his baby.
 
From what I understand, the original footage was found during a raid - it's still raw and unedited.
 
The M249 is not an American Made weapon. Spec's at the bottom (ignore the stated rates of fire), copied off of USMC Official site. Saddly, those are most likely capured weapons from the US arsenal... good thing, they may capture our weapons, but they rarely get enough ammo to sustain much of a fight.

The SAW is essentially a great "rabit chaser" it is a pain at times to use, if you don't know what you're doing with it, if it's under lubed or it's grossly dirty; it either won't fire propperly or you'll have a run away gun. But at almost 1000 rounds per min with the gas reg cranked down, it will cut through cement walls and 'saw' down 'armed' men behind cover. It's about 22lbs, and the newer ones have shortened barrles and collapsable stocks, when in experianced hands, and with enough ammo, it will keep an enemy pinned down if not cut through thier cover till a flanking can be completed.

All you need to know; lube it till it's soaked, brass to the grass, (open bolt weapon) off safe, cock the chargeing handle, place weapon on safe when not aimed in, click off safe and squeeze off 10-20 round bursts. Only load with the bolt forward. Do not try to quarter cock the SAW.

Primary function: Hand-held combat machine gun
Manufacturer: Fabrique Nationale Manufacturing, Inc.
Length: 40.87 inches (103.81 centimeters)
Weight:
With bipod and tools: 15.16 pounds (6.88 kilograms)
200-round box magazine: 6.92 pounds (3.14 kilograms)
30-round magazine: 1.07 pounds (.49 kilograms)
Bore diameter: 5.56mm (.233 inches)
Maximum effective range: 3281 feet (1000 meters) for an area target
Maximum range: 2.23 miles (3.6 kilometers)
Rates of fire:
Cyclic: 725 rounds per minute
Sustained: 85 rounds per minute
Unit Replacement Cost: $4,087
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/06/world/06zarqawi.html

Not All See Video Mockery of Zarqawi as Good Strategy
By C. J. CHIVERS
Published: May 6, 2006

An effort by the American military to discredit the terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi by showing video outtakes of him fumbling with a machine gun — suggesting that he lacks real fighting skill — was questioned yesterday by retired and active American military officers.

In an outtake reportedly taken from a videotape made by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the terrorist leader needed some help firing a machine gun.

The video clips, released on Thursday to news organizations in Baghdad, show the terrorist leader confused about how to handle an M-249 squad automatic weapon, known as an S.A.W., which is part of the American inventory of infantry weapons.

The American military, which said it captured the videotapes in a recent raid, released selected outtakes in an effort to undermine Mr. Zarqawi's image as leader of the Council of Holy Warriors, formerly Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, and suggested that his fighting talents and experience were less than his propaganda portrays. But several veterans of wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, as well as active-duty officers, said in telephone interviews yesterday that the clips of Mr. Zarqawi's supposed martial incompetence were unconvincing.

The weapon in question is complicated to master, and American soldiers and marines undergo many days of training to achieve the most basic competence with it. Moreover, the weapon in Mr. Zarqawi's hands was an older variant, which makes its malfunctioning unsurprising. The veterans said Mr. Zarqawi, who had spent his years as a terrorist surrounded by simpler weapons of Soviet design, could hardly have been expected to know how to handle it.

"They are making a big deal out of nothing," said Mario Costagliola, who retired as an Army colonel last month after serving as the operations officer for the 42nd Infantry Division in Tikrit, Iraq.

An active-duty Special Forces colonel who served in Iraq also said that what the video showed actually had little relationship to Mr. Zarqawi's level of terrorist skill. "Looking at the video, I enjoy it; I like that he looks kind of goofy," said the Special Forces officer, who was granted anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly on military matters. "But as a military guy, I shrug my shoulders and say: 'Of course he doesn't know how to use it. It's our gun.' He doesn't look as stupid as they said he looks."

The release of the captured video reflected the dueling public relations efforts between the American-led forces fighting in Iraq and the terrorists and insurgents. It also reflected increasing interest by the military and civilian strategists in trying to ridicule Mr. Zarqawi.

"In Arab and Muslim societies, pride and shame are felt much more profoundly than they are in Western culture," said J. Michael Waller, a professor at the Institute of World Politics, a graduate school in Washington. "To find video like this that can cut him down to size and discredit him is a real way of fighting terrorism." A paper written by Professor Waller advocating the use of ridicule against the insurgents has been circulating at the Pentagon and among military commanders with experience in Iraq recently, according to several military officers.

But the retired and active officers said the public presentation of the tape did not address elements that were disturbing, rather than amusing: the weapon was probably captured from American soldiers, indicating a tactical victory for the insurgents. And Mr. Zarqawi looked clean and plump.

"I see a guy who is getting a lot of groceries and local support," said Nick Pratt, a Marine Corps veteran and professor of terrorism studies at the George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies in Germany. "You cannot say he is a bad operator." He added, "People should be careful who they poke fun at."

David S. Cloud contributed reporting for this article.

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An outright lie. It takes a lot of training to be good at it, but about 2 minutes to be able to fire it. Maybe he just didn't bother to have an evil henchman clean it first.

And how do they know it's an "older variant?" Because it doesn't have a skeleton stock? The video's too blurry to tell much more than that, and the ones we had when I was in Iraq were that variant, and worked fine.
 
I taught 12 non-English-speaking Thai Recon Marines how to assemble, reassemble, function check, fire and perform IA drills on the M249 in a short afternoon by "monkey see, monkey do" and comedic (though still hard core ;) ) hand and arm signals and shooting noises.

We had a great time but they did as well as any USMC recruits I ever saw. They watch closely, pay attention, discuss among themselves. I doubt they'll need much of a refresher, those men can learn.

Not sure why a guy who had all the time in the world to prep for a video he planned, who could have used the newest finest weapon they had, should get any sort of pass.
 
Doc.... ugh what a story. The CNN guy was bad enough, making the thing sound a Chinese puzzle box held together with 50-pound springs. :scrutiny: I know it shouldn't be surprising anymore just how far some reporters will go to paint us as savage idjits and them as brave enlightened freedom fighters, but every now and again it still gets so deep from 'em it's apalling. :(

It's a gun. Guns are simple machines. You get used enough to guns in general, you can pretty much figure any of 'em out in short order. Which would be a wise thing to do before making a video showing how tough and macho you are. Punk.

That said.. agreed his skill doesn't need to be knowing guns, when he can convince other people to go blow folks up. Punk. Here's hoping he funds himself on the other end of a SAW sometime in the near future. :mad:
 
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