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Over time our attitudes can change...

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by rpenmanparker, Nov 5, 2018.

  1. rpenmanparker

    rpenmanparker Member

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    I was at the range this morning shooting my Ruger SR9. It hasn't gotten much action since I acquired the SR 1911. I just love that single action trigger on the 1911. The striker trigger on the SR9 always gave me trouble due to the length of pull. I would flinch somewhere along the pull at least once per magazine load and spoil the target if you know what I mean. I don't know why, but today the SR9 felt great. With the red dot I was blowing out the bull ring at 7 and 11 yards. The trigger felt so smooth and easy I couldn't believe it was the same gun I used to shoot. Maybe I am just a better shot now with more control and patience. I dunno. But I highly recommend you go back to things that didn't work for you in the past and give them another go. Heck, who knows? I might even try a double action revolver...and I despise double action revolvers.
     
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  2. Tallball

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    Some days I shoot well, some days I'm terrible.

    Maybe you were just having a good day?
     
  3. rpenmanparker

    rpenmanparker Member

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    Yep, but I never used to have good days with that gun.
     
  4. MedWheeler

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    I was issued the Ruger P85 many moons back. Before I signed on with that agency, I owned a S&W 659. Both are DA/SA autoloaders, and I had training with neither. My previous agency had issued a .38 revolver, with which I excelled.

    I was never a good shot with the autoloaders, and only managed to qualify with that Ruger when it was issued to me. When I left LE some time later, both guns went bye-bye, and it was probably years before I got another similarly-sized, DA/SA gun (Ruger P95.) I was pleasantly surprised to find out I could actually shoot it a lot better than I did back then. I still do. I can't even say why. ;)
     
  5. cheygriz

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    A person willing to learn, and practice, can shoot any handgun well.

    The tired old myths that you can't shoot double action accurately, or you can't double tap DA-SA accurately are simply myths pushed by people unwilling to learn or unwilling to accept anything different from their favorite.
     
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  6. RA40

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    I can comprehend. My SA 1911-A1 came with an 8# trigger that was gritty as all get out. I told myself that if I can group with that poor a trigger any of the others would be a breeze. Sent 1K of those 230gr downrange. Then went back to the 9's that while I'm consistent, would take some concentrated effort. It was easier to shoot them following. Consistent practice and trigger awareness.
     
  7. Fine Figure of a Man

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    Mastering the type of handgun you shoot the poorest is the best way to improve with all handguns IMO.
     
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  8. rpenmanparker

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    Maybe, but it seems to me that building skill and confidence with a gun you really like spills over tonthe ones you don’t do as well with.
     
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  9. Fine Figure of a Man

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    Sure it does but I think flaws in technique are often amplified in the guns we shoot poorly and therefore easier to spot and correct.
     
  10. 94045

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    Dry Fire Practice with an S&W Sigma

    Penny on Front Sight. When you do smooth rolling trigger pulls 30 times in a row and the penny is still on the sight your ready.
     
  11. paulsj

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    This must be why then Soviet Nagants go for over $300 now. Got excited when LGS got one with all accesories for $249. After I played with it and tried the trigger the excitement went away.
     
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  12. bds

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    Perhaps the SR9 trigger finally got "broken in"?

    How about a case instead of a penny? - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-help-me-speed-up.824618/page-4#post-10902452

     
  13. wanderinwalker

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    Get a double-action revolver, learn to really shoot it well in DA (head shots at 25-yards on an IDPA or IPSC silhouette), then pick up a 1911, SR9, PPQ, etc. The trigger on the automatic will be a breeze to manage!
     
  14. Tallball

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    Well said! :)
     
  15. Tallball

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    Me too. I got one for $200 or so. It was the worst trigger I ever felt on any firearm. I didn't keep it long.
     
  16. Jeff H

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    Love my SR9. No, it isn't a single action trigger, but the trigger on mine is pretty good. The main reason I like mine tough is that the grip feels very similar to a 1911. Not that weird grip angle of the Glock.

    If you do go to a double action revolver, my main shooter is a GP 100, get the Wolff spring kit and lower the spring weight slightly. The stock pistol is pretty heavy on the trigger pull.
     
  17. JDR

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    I would say that a person willing to train & practice can probably shoot most guns proficiently. There are no substitutes or shortcuts for training & practicing.
     
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    JDR, I might add that the practice must be performed with purpose, concentration, dedication and no distractions.
    Simply sending down rounds without honing skills though attention to the basics of good gun handling is merely a waste of ammunition.
     
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    I prefer striker fired guns for practical uses, but I enjoy shooting a 1911 from time to time because, you know, its a 1911. DA revolvers, don't really shoot them. But I do like to look at them.
     
  20. Dave T

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    If you want to master your handgun skills you need to start shooting further than 11 yards. As someone said earlier, head shots at 25 yards will tell you if you can control the trigger or not.

    Dave
     
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  21. rpenmanparker

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    Who said I didn’t shoot further than 11 yards?
     
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    I kinda think the passing of time may have something to do with shooting going south. With both long gun and handgun went back to 22RF and worked up to full size center fires. Found myself shooting my CZ and Savage 22 rifles in informal RF matches. Also shooting 1911 and Ruger Mark II in informal matches. Doing much better now. I have to own still not as good as before. YMMV
     
  23. cheygriz

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    If you were shooting 200-300 rounds of centerfire per week, as I was before retirement, and you drop to 150-200 per month, your shooting will suffer.

    But depending on which skill level you are trying to maintain, it may, or may not matter.

    When I was teaching, I felt that I must be better than any of the trainees. After retirement, my ammo consumption, and skill level went down, but I still have more than enough for SD/HD, which is what I practice for.
     
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