Overwhelmed Knife Newbie

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a good inexpensive knife to get used to carrying is a Gerber Paraframe. It's not silky smooth opening, but it's a good reliable knife. It'll set you back $20-30. The only problem with the paraframe is the clip may snag on some clothing or furniture (I have a rip in my couch that started from wearing my paraframe in my back pocket, yes it's that thin)
 
I vote for Tenacious or Full Flat Ground FRN (colored) Endura in your choice of color, complemented by the countycomm accessories I posted.
 
ya sorry about that whole spent 30 best 40 thing my bad but i really did only spend 30

however i recently had a problem i was bailing hay and caught the clip of my knife on

the bail and it ripped the three screws holding the clip on the knife right out luckly i

noticed and it is now going in to buck to be fixed lets just see how the costomer service is
 
I am a big fan of the more traditional stuff like Case and Old Timer (now defunct).
Careful though, knives have a way of becoming a Disease.
 
I don't know the source, but I heard once "A knife is the most expensive and least effective screwdriver you will ever use" same goes for crowbar.
 
Spyderco Tenacious! Best $30 you'll ever spend.
Don't you mean: best Chinese manufactured knife you'll ever spend $30 on? And, it's not worth a penny more! (Buy a Byrd Crow, for less, and get a better knife.)

Spyderco Tenacious Knife Review, Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9T-NwSBqPE

Spyderco Tenacious Knife Review, Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byU7lzYi8l4&feature=related

However, if you want a nice knife made in the USA, then look at a Kershaw Junk Yard Dog II. There's one here for the price you want to pay.

http://www.knivesplus.com/kershawjunkyardke-1725.html

Don't buy cheap chinese junk! You'll regret it. Spyderco should be ashamed of the Tenacious.
 
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You know the older I get, the more I understand how Mentors & Elders had a handle on so much of what folks concern themselves with, such as knives.

Understand, many folks, used the same pocketknife, for decades, heck, some used the same knife all their life.
Carry a screwdriver, and/or pry-bar, in addition to whatever knife you settle on.
Honest, the screwdriver, makes a very good defensive tool. Ask ( or pay attention to) street criminals, or even undercover cops, and others, that deal with street thugs.

It would be best, to NOT get into a knife fight, period. Folks are going to get cut, including the good guy, using one for defense. So a street punk knows to use a fixed "weapon" that is not dependent on a locking system of any kind, and he/she cannot get cut, as the shaft of a screwdriver, is not sharp.
Along with, after he/she shivs you, the screwdriver is just tossed, and they exit the area.

Same can be said of these of these small pry-bars, or even the free, paint can opener, with the bottle opener.
If.
If something should happen, (problem one) then perhaps dealing with problem two (officers, lawyers, court...) might be less difficult. Recall, anything one uses, to defend, will be defined as a "weapon". Be this a screwdriver, bottle of water, AA-Maglight, umbrella, rolled up newspaper/magazine...etc.

Another line of thinking is, could you do with the items you have on person, if a serious situation arose.

If one's workplace has restrictions, then one has to work within the perimeters. Some places do not allow locking knives, or restrict blade lengths.

Victorinox Farmer, is a good everyday knife, and works fine for "defense" in the aspect of survival, such as power outage, tornado, hurricane. Victorinox Soldier, the original issue, is another. Today, the Pioneer is the same knife, except, it has the lanyard ring.

A 500 series Buck, (Prince and others) are good knives. Already mentioned are various Kershaws, and Spyderco's.
I happen to like (have a history with) Case, and have "survived" some situations with Peanut, Slimline Trapper, Sodbuster Jr...
So have I with Victorninox, Boker, Shrade Old Timer, and some Custom Slipjoints, and Custom Fixed blades,.

Suggestion: You are the weapon, the world is your toolbox. Suggesting, one should not put / default to physical things, to keep them safe, and to deal with situations.

Just me, still one of these days, I am going to again take a pair of Channel Locks, and grind the ends giving me a flat screwdriver at the end of one handle and Phillips on the other end. The flat, works great for a pry-bar. Seven-and-a-half inch, and smaller ones, like around five inches work "real well".
 
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HGM22,

Wal Mart recently began stocking the Buck Vantage Avid Knife, and it sells for around $36.00 if I remember correctly. This knife has a very nice looking handle, decent steal (13C26 Sandvik), and is pretty fast to get open if you take about five or ten minutes to get used to it first. Its also made in the USA, if that matters to you. Kershaw Storm and Skyline would be some good ones also.

Spyderco Tenacious, Persistance, and Delica could probably be found in your price range. Spyderco is a pretty good knife, imho.
 
Hey, thanks all for the continued input. Again I'm seeing a theme in that I should not use the knife as a screwdriver or prybar. I hear you, but I think such use will be pretty infrequent (cutting and scraping will be the primary uses). In fact, probably infrequent enough to make it not worth carrying separate tools for the rare occasion I need a screwdriver or prybar. I think I will, however, take the extra time to go and get a prybar or screwdriver instead of using my knife if I can help it.

I have another question - anyone tried the onion/leek/etc. Kershaw knives? How are they?
 
Another recommendation for Spyderco. I have had several Spyderco's, and the one I like best is the Caly3. It has G10 handles (rugged), VG10 steel (holds an edge), and a really simple wire clip that can be reversed for tip-up carry in either a R or L pocket.

I use it at work for cutting boxes, rope and tape. Sometimes to remove staples.

I carry a small screwdriver handle with 4 bits in a belt pouch. The knife just doesn't work as a screwdriver, especially with all the square, hex and Torx fasteners that are all over the place now.

I don't know of any folding knife I'd use as a pry bar, no matter how low a price I paid for it. The pivots generally aren't designed for a side load.
 
Hey, first post in this section. Just want to say that I feel a little overwhelmed with all the knife manufacturers and models available out there, and not quite sure where to get started.

Anyway, I've been thinking I need a good knife for utility and possibly defense. Would like a non-serrated blade, some sort of belt clip, and some type of stud or cutout to allow fast opening would be nice, but cannot be assisted-opening. Definitely want a folder.

Being new to knives for the most part, I'm not really skilled in sharpening them, so something that isn't too hard to sharpen would be great (I know a professional sharpener, but at some point would like to be able to sharpen it myself).

Also, I would like a rugged knife that I can abuse without worry. Maybe such a knife doesn't exist, in which case I want the closest thing.

Finally, the price should be right. I cannot afford to spend much more than $60 on the knife. I realize this might make things difficult, though I did see some nice knives from CRKT and Kershaw in this price range.

Amazon sells SOG knives for under $100. I have a Pentagon Elite and Trident Tanto that they sell for around $70, no tax or shipping. Benchmade makes the Griptilian which is not too bad either.

Ernest Emerson makes great knives and he has a budget line:

http://www.emersonknives.com/ekHardWear_intro.php
 
You know the older I get, the more I understand how Mentors & Elders had a handle on so much of what folks concern themselves with, such as knives.

Understand, many folks, used the same pocketknife, for decades, heck, some used the same knife all their life.
Carry a screwdriver, and/or pry-bar, in addition to whatever knife you settle on.
Honest, the screwdriver, makes a very good defensive tool. Ask ( or pay attention to) street criminals, or even undercover cops, and others, that deal with street thugs.

It would be best, to NOT get into a knife fight, period. Folks are going to get cut, including the good guy, using one for defense. So a street punk knows to use a fixed "weapon" that is not dependent on a locking system of any kind, and he/she cannot get cut, as the shaft of a screwdriver, is not sharp.
Along with, after he/she shivs you, the screwdriver is just tossed, and they exit the area.

Same can be said of these of these small pry-bars, or even the free, paint can opener, with the bottle opener.
If.
If something should happen, (problem one) then perhaps dealing with problem two (officers, lawyers, court...) might be less difficult. Recall, anything one uses, to defend, will be defined as a "weapon". Be this a screwdriver, bottle of water, AA-Maglight, umbrella, rolled up newspaper/magazine...etc.

Another line of thinking is, could you do with the items you have on person, if a serious situation arose.

If one's workplace has restrictions, then one has to work within the perimeters. Some places do not allow locking knives, or restrict blade lengths.

Victorinox Farmer, is a good everyday knife, and works fine for "defense" in the aspect of survival, such as power outage, tornado, hurricane. Victorinox Soldier, the original issue, is another. Today, the Pioneer is the same knife, except, it has the lanyard ring.

A 500 series Buck, (Prince and others) are good knives. Already mentioned are various Kershaws, and Spyderco's.
I happen to like (have a history with) Case, and have "survived" some situations with Peanut, Slimline Trapper, Sodbuster Jr...
So have I with Victorninox, Boker, Shrade Old Timer, and some Custom Slipjoints, and Custom Fixed blades,.

Suggestion: You are the weapon, the world is your toolbox. Suggesting, one should not put / default to physical things, to keep them safe, and to deal with situations.

Just me, still one of these days, I am going to again take a pair of Channel Locks, and grind the ends giving me a flat screwdriver at the end of one handle and Phillips on the other end. The flat, works great for a pry-bar. Seven-and-a-half inch, and smaller ones, like around five inches work "real well".

Great advice and comments.

The important thing about knife fights: you WILL be cut, and may even get stabbed. unless you are well trained, running shoes or a good pistol will serve you better.
 
I have another question - anyone tried the onion/leek/etc. Kershaw knives? How are they?

Plenty of threads here on them and they're well thought of as well. Be sure to look at the tips and decide if you want a Kershaw with a fine pointy tip or one that is more robust.
 
That is good advice about the knife fighting, and I've heard it before, so its not something to be ignored. I'd much much rather avoid the situation alltogether (avoid travel alone at night for instance). Since I will have the knife on me anyways it is something to think about as a defensive tool, but like I've said I think in most cases complying with demands or running is probably the best thing.
 
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