+P for CCW

[Aka Zero]

I have some +p frangible, made for knocking steel plates over.

+p 124gr gold dots, for knocking people over.

More speed is always better.

 

[jfh]

freakshow10mm:

Does your 'never use +P' statement include 38 Special? Especially in light of the history of the SAAMI specs for this cartridge and the '+P' designations?

What about the European CIP spec?--i.e., there is no +P spec; 38 Special simply runs out <=21,750 PSI.

With modern 38 Special handguns?

(Note: I am not referencing the 38+P+ loads from the 70s, just historical / modern SAAMI specs.)

Jim H.

 

[Noxx]

Increasing pressure in an already max loaded cartridge is not gaining anything.

Jut as a point of procedure, the above is factually incorrect. Of course something is gained, velocity. While that gain is a matter of a diminishing returns vis a vis load pressure, let us remember that in all of our energy calculations the most volatile figure is velocity, which is always squared.

I agree with your assertion that simply moving up in caliber is the best way to achieve more energy on target, however I can't put a .45 in my jeans pocket, the same cannot be said of a 642.

So, IMO, if in any instance it is a given that the caliber may be fixed by other influences (A .38 fits in a pocket, grandad left you a .38 and you can't afford a new gun, etc, etc), in the caliber you have, more velocity = more energy on target = a greater chance that you go home.

Or more simply, all other things being equal, mo' faster is mo' better