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Does anyone know an approximate date or serial numbers for the updated firing pin? TIA My 365 is dated 24 0ct 18.
I love it. She has about 300 round through her with no hiccups or bumps. BesttoAll
 
What did they do to the slide?
from the pics i have seen, sig had to relieve a portion of the slide to accept the new shape of the striker. there are vids up on youtube that show the different striker shapes. the new striker puts a radius at the pin base instead of the right angle on the original. the fix is stronger, but ...

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I have pictures of the two different strikers, was wondering what exactly they do to the slide if they do anything. A link to the answer would be great.
 
Academy has them in some stores, $499.99. Not sold online.

Went to gun show in Richmond Va several dealers had them from $499 to $599. The 365 "drought" is over. Wish someone had some 365 ammo my fav. Thank God MidSouth Guns were there so I could look at some classic game guns and rifles.
 
Tinman357 was kind enough to send me the new style striker that he had offered. (I owe some PIF in the near future.)

After doing a lot of measuring I can't find any difference except for where they made the transition from the pin to the body of the striker more rounded thus shortening the full diameter part of the striker.

OAL for both is 1.995 +/-, only difference is the full diameter body of the striker is shorter because of that more radiused and longer transition from the pin to the body which shortened it. Pins are basically the same length as well.

Old vs New P-365 Strikers @ 63% THR size.JPG

Looking around the web the only thing about the slide I could find is that same old post about a chamfer inside the striker channel on the slide, both entering the small diameter portion for the pin and the larger diameter for the body of the striker.

If that is original, or a change, I don't know, but my slide has it in both places. There are some pics of a shorter spring. I wonder if that is to help with primer drag? Dunno. I left mine like it was, but I may go back and shorten it a little. Be very careful taking off the two little pieces that hold the spring on the striker. ;)


Slide pics on Sig Talk

One of the pics from Sig Talk. My slide has these two chamfered spots.
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I installed the new style striker in my P-365 and will go shoot the snot out of it soon.
 
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i think you answered your question if you go to this link on sig talk, and see post #15.
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They modified my existing slide.

That doesn't really answer anything except the poster thinks they modified his slide. He doesn't say how/what, nothing.

How did/do they modify the slide if they do, that is the unanswered question. It needs more than a random poster saying they modified his slide with no explanation whatsoever.

So, for anyone that can tell us, do they and how do they, modify the slide on the P365 when they update it with the new style striker? Solid answers from a reliable source that can tell us yes/no and what.
 
That said, this coming week I am going to go shoot my P-365 with the new style striker. Gonna shoot it a lot. We'll see what happens. Worse it can do is break. :)
 
Walkalong. The original firing pin I had in my 365 is the same as yours. Even though I had well over 2k rounds without issue, all the internet chatter caused me concern, so I got the new style pin. No other mods to the slide, I didnt send it back, I just got a new style pin. It worked just fine through 100 rounds.

Still wasn't comfortable. Despite my own experiance and logic, the internet convinced me I had a bad pin. So I forked over the $ for a milled steel pin from LSI.

I kept the original pin, the one I sent you is the new style. Didn't want to give you a pin thats seen that many rounds and at least double that in dryfire.

So im my experiance, the new pin works in the old slides without any additional work. Just a drop in part.

I have fired/dry fired that original pin right around 6k times. Still works just fine. Yes. Some early 365's had issues. Not an uncommon event across the brand spectrum. Virtually every new model from every manufacturer does. The 365 maybe more in the beginning than some. There was certainly a lot of noise.

The guys over at the Sig forums have put a ton of effort in tracking these issues. The early run had issues, no doubt. But the issues are pretty rare on post June production.

I'm comfortable the bugs are worked out now on any post June 365.

If anyone wants one, supply is good, prices are stabilizing, and it is a great sidearm. I plan on getting 2 more. For daughter and G/F soon. I feel that the issues are worked out and ill be getting solid, reliable protection for the two I care about most.
 
I have followed the P365 since its introduction and may very possibly buy one at some point in time.

While it is pretty clear that the majority of P365 owners have not experienced significant problems, it is also clear that a substantial percentage of P365 owners experienced one or more teething issues, some of which were catastrophic in terms of rendering the pistol immediately non-functional without prior warning. The most commonly discussed have been the broken strikers and the dislodged trigger bar springs, and some of these issues occurred after very substantial round counts. But there were others including sights that fell off, dead night sights, barrel peening, failures to return to battery, and extraction issues.

Some of these problems were addressed by SIG when they temporarily shut down P365 production to redesign the recoil spring assembly and by switching from the original Siglite sights to X Ray sights. Then there was the redesign of the striker, and some modification in design or assembly of the trigger bar spring. I am aware of 4 different polls of P365 owners conducted on various forums, some of which were quite detailed. One can talk about the unreliability of internet polls and selection bias and such, but the results of these were strikingly similar in that between 20 and 25% of P365 owners had experienced a problem severe enough that they had to return their pistols to SIG for service at the time the poll was conducted. Even if there was considerable selection bias in these polls, I would still consider a critical failure rate of even 5% to be unacceptably high in a carry pistol.

But things do seem to be settling down now, in no small part to the owners of early P365 pistols who willingly or not became SIG's beta testers. The most common issues I have heard reported in the last 3-4 months have been failures of slide lock on empty magazines, and a number of light primer strikes with the redesigned striker. The slide lock issue could, of course, be largely due to shooter error, but some experienced shooters have had this occur when they were quite certain they were not riding the slide lock lever. The light strikes might be of greater potential concern, but these issues seem to be much less common than the earlier critical failures that thankfully seem to have abated.

I have shot the P365 and agree it is very shootable and accurate considering its small size, and it has an impressive magazine capacity. I will probably give SIG another 6 months or so before I spring for one, but I do suspect that one is probably pretty safe buying current production P365.
 
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I have everything loaded up for the range tomorrow. Up till now I have around 1500 rounds through mine, plated HPs, JHPs, JSPs, no round nose ammo & no lead (Won't be carrying lead in it ;)). Only malfunction was failure to lock back the slide a couple of times with my lower powered plinker load (124 plated at 1050ish from a 5" gun, and 925ish from the P-365), shooting one handed. I loaded the different rounds mixed, non mixed, 10 in the mag, empty chamber, 10 in the mag, one in the chamber, shooting fast, shooting slow, one handed two handed, didn't matter, it just ran.

I have more plinker plated 124 gr HPs, full power 125 JSPs (Master Match), full power 124 Gr JHPs (RMR MPR), and full power factory 95 Gr JSPs. Gonna run a bunch through the P-365 tomorrow after work unless something happens to stop me. (Rain, work, bad luck)
 
Does anyone know an approximate date or serial numbers for the updated firing pin? TIA My 365 is dated 24 0ct 18.
I love it. She has about 300 round through her with no hiccups or bumps. BesttoAll
Anything dated June or later is supposed to be GTG
 
I finally went to the range and shot my buddy's 365 the yesterday. After all the hype I must admit to being a little disappointed. I dont know what I expected but I have seen a lot of G43 bashing with the 365 name dropped and the 43 is my EDC. Comparatively the sig did not fit my hand well. The 10 rounds are certainly nice in a pistol that small. The ergos are just not my cup of tea.

I have seen the phrases revolutionary and game changing in print. I did not find it to be either. My buddy probably thinks I'm wierd because I started laughing when I first shot the pistol, thinking of all the praise I have read . What the 365 is is a Well built, good fit and finish compact pistol.
 
I finally went to the range and shot my buddy's 365 the yesterday. After all the hype I must admit to being a little disappointed. I dont know what I expected but I have seen a lot of G43 bashing with the 365 name dropped and the 43 is my EDC. Comparatively the sig did not fit my hand well. The 10 rounds are certainly nice in a pistol that small. The ergos are just not my cup of tea.

I have seen the phrases revolutionary and game changing in print. I did not find it to be either. My buddy probably thinks I'm wierd because I started laughing when I first shot the pistol, thinking of all the praise I have read . What the 365 is is a Well built, good fit and finish compact pistol.

It's about the math. My son is getting married in May and moving to a part of Wisconsin where gangs are unheard of and violent crime is rare. For him capacity is much less important and a G43 or Shield will be a great choice. For now we live in a Chicago suburb which has a low crime rate, but when things do happen here it's often gangs driving in from the city, usually 4 in the car to commit a car jacking or armed robbery. The question then is whether you want 13 rounds (P365) or 7 (G43). I prefer 13 rounds and carry the P365. Calling that revolutionary is marketing hype, but it is a benefit.

The ergonomics are personal, and there's no right or wrong. Telling someone a particular gun's ergonomics are better for them is like telling them your shoes would be more comfortable for them. As far as the G43 bashing goes, that's Sig fan boys being fan boys. We see the same thing from Glock fan boys and I don't understand it. I'm seeing some of that lately on some of these threads and it's juvenile. The P365 has worked for me. The G43 works for you, and it's great you found the right gun.
 
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Comparatively the sig did not fit my hand well. The 10 rounds are certainly nice in a pistol that small. The ergos are just not my cup of tea.

As mentioned, we are all different, and the great news is that we have different choices for different shooters.

Sometimes, it is just what you are used to. With a handle like "Glockula", I am guessing that you are used to the Glock fit and trigger, and that is probably always going to the best choice for you. Everything else will feel foreign.

Both guns are great guns, no worries there.
 
I have seen the phrases revolutionary and game changing in print. I did not find it to be either.
Marketing is going to create high expectations for a lot of people. It's still a small pistol so your reaction isn't surprising. I've handled a few and they just don't fit me that well. However I'm waiting for my local range to put one up for rental purposes.

The ergonomics are personal, and there's no right or wrong. Telling someone a particular gun's ergonomics are better for them is like telling them your shoes would be more comfortable for them. As far as the G43 bashing goes, that's Sig fan boys being fan boys. We see the same thing from Glock fan boys and I don't understand it. I'm seeing some of that lately on some of these threads and it's juvenile. The P365 has worked for me. The G43 works for you, and it's great you found the right gun.
Agree completely. I ignore praise of ergonomics from any reviewer in any format. They are meaningless to my hands.

And I agree on the brand and model bashing. Inappropriate and unnecessary, and yes I've been seeing a bit of it lately too. I've hit a point where I'm just happy for someone when they find a gun that works for them.
 
As mentioned, we are all different, and the great news is that we have different choices for different shooters.

Sometimes, it is just what you are used to. With a handle like "Glockula", I am guessing that you are used to the Glock fit and trigger, and that is probably always going to the best choice for you. Everything else will feel foreign.

Both guns are great guns, no worries there.

Well I do like my Glocks no surprise there. But I am not biased towards them. I love my buddies shield to the point I might get one in .45. And truly I am a revolver guy and my other carry is a 5 shot .357 J frame.

I am glad Sig came out with the 365 and there were some other positives, like the wonderful Sig sights. Sigs have always been a little rich for my blood but they are great pistols. I'm glad Sig has worked the issues out with them. They can't keep them in stock here. That's a good sign
 
It's about the math. My son is getting married in May and moving to a part of Wisconsin where gangs are unheard of and violent crime is rare. For him capacity is much less important and a G43 or Shield will be a great choice. For now we live in a Chicago suburb which has a low crime rate, but when things do happen here it's often gangs driving in from the city, usually 4 in the car to commit a car jacking or armed robbery. The question then is whether you want 13 rounds (P365) or 7 (G43). I prefer 13 rounds and carry the P365. Calling that revolutionary is marketing hype, but it is a benefit.

The ergonomics are personal, and there's no right or wrong. Telling someone a particular gun's ergonomics are better for them is like telling them your shoes would be more comfortable for them. As far as the G43 bashing goes, that's Sig fan boys being fan boys. We see the same thing from Glock fan boys and I don't understand it. I'm seeing some of that lately on some of these threads and it's juvenile. The P365 has worked for me. The G43 works for you, and it's great you found the right gun.

If we're going to do the math with the extra capacity Sig magazine we ought to go apples to apples with the G43 as well. With the factory spring and just changing to an extended floor plate. I have 8+1. That's 13 vs 9 rounds. Maybe still significant to some. But not a big deal to me
 
If we're going to do the math with the extra capacity Sig magazine we ought to go apples to apples with the G43 as well. With the factory spring and just changing to an extended floor plate. I have 8+1. That's 13 vs 9 rounds. Maybe still significant to some. But not a big deal to me

The 4 rounds do matter to me, but it's not the only factor. I shoot the P365 well where I don't shoot the G43 well. That's not to say the the G43 isn't a good gun, it is, it's just not a fit for me.
 
I am looking forward to getting one. Felt great in my hand when I tried one. My current carry gun is an LC9s pro which I love. The Sig pretty much one ups everything on the LC9s. Trigger is slightly better. 11 rounds vs 8. Better sights. Better texture. The question I havn't answered yet is will I shoot it as well as I do my LC9s. Have to rent one or just buy it an see.
 
Took it out to the range today after work. Ran 50 rounds of factory 95 Gr JSPs (Average 1155 FPS recently) through it to start.

Had two failures to lock back after the last round. (Left the crimped in primer brass laying on the ground)

Then I ran three mags full of my 124 gr plated Plinker load that averaged 920 FPS recently. (75 Degrees 35% RH)

Then I ran three of mags full of "full power" 124 Gr JHPs that averaged 1025 FPS recently. (75 Degrees 35% RH)

Then I ran two mags full of my 90 Gr JHPs that averaged 1268 FPS recently. (75 Degrees 35% RH)

Then I shot all I had with me of my 125 Gr JSPs that averaged 1110 FPS recently. (Too hot, need to back off)(75 Degrees 35% RH)

A little over 150 more rounds of my reloads for a bit over 200 rounds fired. No failures of any kind with the reloads.

P-365 New Striker Range Trip Pic 1.jpg P-365 New Striker Range Trip Pic 2.jpg P-365 New Striker Range Trip Pic 3.jpg P-365 New Striker Range Trip Pic 4.jpg
 
Primer swipe on 124 gr Plinkers.
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Primer swipe on 124 Gr JHPs
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Primer swipe on 125 Gr JSPs (Too hot, need to back off)
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Just putting my mark on another 365 thread. I'm excited about this new pistol. I've wanted to get if for at least a year but with the early issues and continuing availability issues, I didn't get it until earlier this week.

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Shooting it starts this weekend but it is cold outside and the forecast is for snow Saturday so I'll be at the indoor range not the gun club. At least get a couple hundred reloads and factory rounds through it and see how it performs.

One thing I haven't seen is if anyone has put any lead through it. I have quite a few lead 124g plinkers. I'll mix them in with some jacketed bullets to see how it handles it.
 
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