Painful video to watch!

[tnieto2004]

I think ArcherandShooter gave a great way to unjam it which would prevent a mishap from happening .. Pointing a muzzle toward your head is never a good idea .. No matter what anyone tried to teach you ..

 

[alucard0822]

Actually, the handbook that came with my CMP Garand specifically warns NOT to clear a jam that way, saying, with masterful understatement, "that leaves the muzzle too close to your head for safety."

Yes, but the Krinkov manual translated from russian probably reads something like: "If this weapon jams you cannot kill enemy for mother Russia, if you do not kill enemy, they will kill you, if enemy doesn't kill you and you still do not fight, then we kill you. What do you fear more, an accident clearing a jam, or US. Clear the jam with your foot sissy, and we will not kill you."

In a situation where lead is flinging, and your rifle is turned into a club by a jam, a 1/1000 chance of a slamfire in the head is a small price to pay to clear it quickly, compared to going hand to rifle with some marines. In the civilian world, unload, pull back the bolt hard, if this doesnt work, take a shoelace, or peice of rope, fold over the bolt handle, pull it tight and wrap over the buttstock, quickly pull the center of the rope down, and the jam will clear, all with the muzzle under control, downrange. Pulling the dustcover off, putting the rope through under the piston rod and above the bolt, wrap each end in a hand, put the stock in your gut, and have someone hold the rifle, pull briskly. stomping on it works, but can be dangerous, or can get you thrown out of a range, and if it does go off, is shouldn't be pointed at your head anyway, but the bullet will go flying somewhere, OK in battle, definitely not cool at the range

 

[MisterPX]

If you can't hand slam a stuck case out, the foot method is next.

Seen it many times, done it more than a few. If done correctly, if it magically fires, the round will miss you.

 

[mbpautz762]

is it just me, or does the muzzleflash on the AK and the AR look a tad excessive? were they shooting blanks in some of those clips??

 

[MachIVshooter]

I've got a better one for you. This idiot had multiple warnings before the inevitable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWygoxV_ApM&NR=1

 

[frank23185]

Ok, so having the muzzle pointed at your face was kinda dumb, but teh rest of the video completely rocked!!1

 

[chemist308]

Thats how we were taught to clear a jam, usually with a weapon with a longer barrel, but thats the way. How would you have done it?

For my SKS I smack the bolt against the edge of the range table, with the barrel pointed down range. Other times using a sappling to smack the bolt, also with gun barrel pointed down range or away from me. It works for me anyway...

 

[Powderman]

Unsafe? Maybe. Would you do it on a range? Probably not.

But the veterans I have talked to--and shot with--who were issued the M1 Garand or the M14 mentioned this method of clearing. If you can't wrench the bolt open, then you have a choice. You can kick the thing open--or chance trying to do it by hand while the enemy closes on your position.

Your choice.

 

[benEzra]

That AK is a short-barreled Krinkov in 5.45x39. You'd see a lot less flash with a full-length barrel. The M4 type gun also looks to be a shorty.

 

[fast eddie]

I thought an AK wouldn't jam no matter what. Just shows what a load that old wives tale is.

 

[FireArmFan]

Question about the M3 Grease Gun. I've read that in regards to the Thomspon, U.S. soldiers were taught to grip in front of the magazine because they naturally gripped the magazine. And pressure put on the magazine would cause the gun to jam and feed unreliably. This seems like it would be a similar problem with the Grease Gun, except there isn't really anywhere else for your front hand to go. The only thing i can think of is that on the thompson you'd be gripping the magazine only and on the grease gun there is a nub that comes down that the magazine goes into so most of the pressure from gripping it would go on that.
Sorry if that's hard to read, I'm at a loss for better words right now. Any thoughts from people with actual experience.

 

[jakeswensonmt]

I can't believe the AK-74 unintended discharge in the mudpuddle right before the dude does the foot-jam-clear, and the camera man giggles at the AD. Man, I'd be riled if I was the camera guy, mud puddle guy is unsafe.
Even if the foot method is approved, Mr Mudpuddlejammerfoot is an accident looking for a place to happen.

 

[Rumble]

I can't believe the AK-74 unintended discharge in the mudpuddle right before the dude does the foot-jam-clear, and the camera man giggles at the AD. Man, I'd be riled if I was the camera guy, mud puddle guy is unsafe.
Even if the foot method is approved, Mr Mudpuddlejammerfoot is an accident looking for a place to happen.

I don't have the sound on - was that unintentional, or was he trying to set up a jam?

 

[AK103K]

FireArmFan,

You shouldnt hold onto the mag on any of them, not saying people dont though. The Thompson has a forward grip, either vertical or horizontal, depending on model. Its much easier to shoot the gun if you hold on there.

The M3/M3A1's forward grip is the mag well, as it usually is on most guns of that type that dont have a foreward grip or shroud on the barrel. The mag well can get warm after sustained firing. If its gets hot enough that you cant hold on to it, your either fooling around and having a good time, or your not having a good time and I doubt you'd notice it was hot.

 

[silverlance]

nothing in that video was unintentional. the jam was deliberately induced by firing it in the muddy water. I myself have kicked open the actions of: FAL, SKS, AK, FN49, M39. No matter how much advertisement a gun has, it WILL jam eventually. you can significantly decerase the chance of this happening by picking a gun less prone, and by having a good cleaning regimen, but it will happen with any gun from your $100 sks to your $3000 tacticool autoloader.

there are other methods, but ultimately they all involve smacking the bolt handle. safer methods include finding a tree or pole and running the handle into it with the muzzle pointed forward; moving a table out over dirt and slamming the handle down onto the edge witht he muzzle down; and taking a block of wood and hammering the handle with the muzzle up 45 degrees out.

it is well and good to practice stomping your rifle. this is your tool for defending yourself - you ought to know what to do in any event of failure. if you cant bear the thought of putting your boots on your firearm, then you should probably keep that gun in the safe and get one that you won't mind get dirty or scratched.

some thoughts - these guys have a HELL of a lot of money, and much more of it than sense. shooting TVs? who is going to clean up the glass? blowing up appliances? well and good, but are they going to pick it up after they leave or just dump it in the forest?

if they have the money to burn through several hunrded dollar's worth of ammo, and to possess well over 100,000$ worth of gun, then they should have the decency to bring proper targets (fruit, wood, cardboard) that are biodegradable and dont make gun owners look like they dont care about the forests they shoot in.

 

[George Hill]

"For my SKS I smack the bolt against the edge of the range table, with the barrel pointed down range."

Great method - if you happen to have a range table handy.
One method of clearing an M-16 is to smack the butt of the rifle against something hard while pulling on the charging handle. That method in the video looks risky, but it obviously worked.

 

[benEzra]

I thought an AK wouldn't jam no matter what. Just shows what a load that old wives tale is.

Probably locked up the action from overpressure due to the barrel being full of water when it was fired (that sends chamber pressures through the roof).

I'm amazed that it actually held together...

 

[J_L_A]

Wonder why the person who was doing the shooting didn't use the ear protection? If that was me.....I would be the one using the ear "muff" protection instead of the little ear plugs, (if they were using them at all).

 

[AK103K]

Ear plugs offer better hearing protection than muffs. They usually have the highest rating. They also are much more long gun friendly to shoot with.

 

[revjen45]

Notice that the Krinkov was the only gun tossed in a mud puddle and stomped on.

 

[RevolvingCylinder]

That's the way I've cleared tough jams. One was on a horribly abused and neglected M16A2 rifle that I had recently drawn from the armory. Upon disassembly, I discovered that not only was there excessive amounts of carbon throughout but the cam pin was rusted to the bolt carrier.

Of course, some people will tell you that it's because the M16 series is unreliable and [favorite automatic rifle] would function with its working parts seized.

It's the most efficient way to clear a stuck bolt that won't free by hand. You obviously don't let the muzzle point at any part of your body. That's why you lean it away from you as you do it.