"Pairs" it just makes sense

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When I say "Pairs" I'm referring to having a pistol and rifle in the same caliber.

I started out with this due to CAS when I got a pair of sixguns and a Rossi 92 all chambered in .357Mag/.38 Special.

Now I'm trying to figure out a good carbine matchup to go with a "satin nickle" .40 S&W CZ-75b. I've considered the Hi-Point but it's just not pretty enough to match up with that CZ :D.
 
Nothing wrong with the idea at all, except for the fact your longarm and primary weapon is gonna be a bit short on power.
 
I'm looking at over 1k rounds of .357Mag thinking it will take me a loooong time to shoot those out of a S&W J frame. I think a lever gun is going to be moved to the short list soon.
 
A pistol caliber carbine, preferably taking the same magazines that you can feed your handgun, makes sense, especially with the increasing likelihood that we'll have a zombie infestation.

Organize before they rise.
 
I built a 9mm AR because it has similar recoil to a 5.56 and I could fire it at an indoor range I frequent. Now I shoot it because 9mm is currently what .223 was a few years ago... I wouldn't hesitate to use it for HD, although I would prefer to use my year-old .223 that still looks new.

I also have a rimfire AR15. With the price of ammo, the cost of building it wasn't an issue.

I own two thompsons.

I didnt build the 9mm AR to compliment the Glock 17 I had at the time, nor did I build my rimfire AR to compliment my rimfire 1911. I built them to save money.

I didnt buy my thompsons to compliment my 1911s. I bought them because they were cool, back when ammo, gas, and life in general was cheap. I still think they're cool.

It makes sense to me to have a wheelgun and a lever-action in the same caliber, if you're reloading with loose ammo, you reloads with fit either one of your guns.

For the most part with semi-autos, when your out of ammo for one, you're going to have to use the other. A glock 18 magazine will not fit in a RRA 9mm. Dont ask me how I know...
 
Well, jump on out in front of 'em and show me what you mean
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Just lemme grab my body armor first. Then when you run out of ammunition and I'm still standing because you didn't get through my thick outer shell I'll walk over and beat your brains out.
 
Nothing wrong with the idea at all, except for the fact your longarm and primary weapon is gonna be a bit short on power.
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That's always been the sticking point for me - when I think of a long gun to complement my 45 LC Blackhawk, I think a Marlin Cowboy 1895 (45-70) or (if I win the lottery) a Shiloh Sharps.

Mike
 
Now I'm trying to figure out a good carbine matchup to go with a "satin nickle" .40 S&W CZ-75b. I've considered the Hi-Point but it's just not pretty enough to match up with that CZ .
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If you can find one I like my Ruger in 40S&W. It's a nice little rifle.
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I like pairs.
AR rifles and Kel Tec PLR .223 and Bushmaster .223 pistols.
UZI 9mm and 9mm pistols.
45ACP Marlin Camp Carbine, Thompson, and 45 pistols.
Ruger 10/22 rifle and 22 pistols.
 
Just lemme grab my body armor first. Then when you run out of ammunition and I'm still standing because you didn't get through my thick outer shell I'll walk over and beat your brains out.
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While I've never been shot, with or without body armor, but I've been told it feels like getting hit in the chest with a bat.

I've been batted once... Not sure I'd want to pick a fight with someone in if I'm hurtin that bad. Much less someone with a pistol to whip and a rifle to club me with.
 
I've heard that being shot with a .357 Magnum while wearing soft body armor feels just like getting hit by a baseball. However if you wear ceramic plates underneath you don't feel that much impact.
 
I think if I were looking to combo for serious, I would get a Beretta 96 (or 92) and a CX4 carbine in same caliber because they also use the same mags.
I have been known to take my S&W 629 and my Winchester 94 (both .44mag) to the range. after a little time with .22 rimfires, new shooters love to the .44s but they don't have to know they're just shooting light target reloads.
 
I've heard that being shot with a .357 Magnum while wearing soft body armor feels just like getting hit by a baseball. However if you wear ceramic plates underneath you don't feel that much impact.
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All teasing aside, be careful about believing what you "hear about".

.357 Magnum 158gr JSP rounds out of an 18" Carbine "lever gun" have been clocked at about 1800 fps and that's a hell of a lot of muzzle energy even for a "second chance" vest (I believe that puts it roughly on par with a .223). I know I've blown it through a set of three stacked hard drives and the round had no trouble penetrating all the way through.

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We'll leave aside the whole issue that it's also a really accurate and light recoiling rifle that allows me to be pretty specific about where I'm aiming :neener:

Seriously though, the "storm" sounds like a neat gun. I'd heard of it before but never really seriously looked into it. I might just do so now.
 
I think if I were looking to combo for serious
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That's a funny way to phrase it, you see I'm the sort of guy who takes what I have (be it a .22LR pistol or a tricked out .308) and spends some time considering "Okay, if you had no choice how would you go about dropping a -fill in the blank- with this".

It's not that I'm ever going to try and ACTUALLY stop a rampaging elephant with a .22LR but I like to consider the full possibilities of -any- firearm I own. :D
 
Yeah well just remember that police are being moved away from long guns and submachineguns in pistol calibers for a reason.
 
Yeah well just remember that police are being moved away from long guns and submachineguns in pistol calibers for a reason.
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The reason being that there is a LOT of M-16 rifles available cheap right now to law enforcement. Personally, if the average police officer needs to make a shot that's over 100 yards, they need to be calling for backup and containment. We've got too many cops who haven't received adequate training being handed centerfire rifle-caliber rifles which can literally shoot through houses.

And my little .357 carbine is perfectly adequate to 100 yards.

Mak, you can get a Thompson-Center Contender in darn near anything.
 
The reason being that there is a LOT of M-16 rifles available cheap right now to law enforcement.
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No, it's because of criminals in body armor. Why am I the only one that remembers the North Hollywood Shootout?

We've got too many cops who haven't received adequate training being handed centerfire rifle-caliber rifles which can literally shoot through houses.
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I've seen questionable performance and penetration results by the .223 against hard objects.

And my little .357 carbine is perfectly adequate to 100 yards.
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Maybe, but there's no way you're gonna be getting through kevlar with it.
 
Not that many crooks running around in Kevlar, and I've seen .223 go through a LOT of stuff. Give your average semi-trained cop, with an adrenaline dump, a 30 round magazine, and you're gonna have spray and pray.

Heck - Give 'em .30-30s, and teach them how to aim.
 
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