"Pairs" it just makes sense

[Nolo]

In all seriousness, the real place for these duos is where you have the space for a rifle but only the need of an emergency pistol round (i.e., you are not looking for/expecting trouble).
A car or campsite, for example.
Of course, I think a nice black rifle would still be preferable. Hence why pistol-caliber carbines have not really taken off (and I think never will until we are allowed to own new SMGs...).

 

[Atla]

I'd like a M1 Carbine chambered in 10mm please!

 

[dalepres]

I can't think of a single really good reason for owning long guns and handguns in the same calibers but I do for several calibers. I guess just because it feels cool. What ever it is, I like it!

 

[papajohn]

A lot of newer shooters, as well as some women and kids, have trouble managing a full-house 357 in a handgun. Put that same round in a 6-pound rifle, and you give them a weapon they can wield easily, and effectively, if needed. The more experienced shooter can still shoot the 357 handgun, and there is only one type of ammo to be carried.

Plus, few things are as much fun as a 357 rifle, but the handgun is much more portable, and more likely to be on your hip when you need it. And while I know energy figured are skewed to favor high-velocity rounds, the 357 magnum out of a rifle barrel is a LOT more potent than out of a handgun. Shoots flatter, hits harder, and once mastered, no clay pigeon is safe out to 125 yards or better. Go ahead, ask me how I know that!

Papajohn

 

[dalepres]

Hey, papajohn... How do you know that no clay pigeon is safe out to 125 yards or better in the hands of a master?

 

[SaxonPig]

Titan6- You quote me but I don't think you understand what I said. I said that a rifle in a pistol caliber is largely hard to defend on the power to weight/bulk formula. If I have my choice between a 1911 and a carbine (even a light one) in the same caliber, I don't see much point in packing the larger gun. If I do opt for the bigger weapon, I want more power than a 45 ACP. I never said that any caliber wasn't effective, but I want the most bang for my buck.

I have a 4" N frame 38 Special and a 2" J frame in the same caliber. Guess which I carry for SD? If I am going to lug around an N frame, I want a bigger caliber than 38 Special.

How does one fault this logic?

 

[papajohn]

Durnit Dale, I guess I asked for that, didn't I?

Okay, if ya must know, it's because I have a pair of 1894's, and the 357 is my current favorite. I'm at the range at least one full day a week, and I shoot that gun at all ranges out to 200 yards. The Scout Scope is set at 7X, and if I wear my lucky toupee and hold my tongue just right, I can nail clay pigeons on the ground at 200 most of the time. At 100 yards, it's not even a challenge. Point, pull, giggle and go on to the next one. Especially if you blew it into flinders a half-second before your buddy was gonna shoot it. Hiliarity then ensues. When our little NHCFM group is locked and loaded, a box of clays at 100 yards doesn't last more than a few minutes.

And what, you ask, is a NHCFM? It's the local (and unusually handsome) chapter of the No Hair Club For Men!


Papajohn

 

[dalepres]

That's awesome, papajohn.

 

[tekarra]

Pairs? Yup, I am looking to purchase a Puma 92 in .357. Regret not buying a Marlin Camp Carbine in 9mm years ago. I see Rugers in .40 from time to time, but not in 9mm. Would like a 9 rifle that uses the same magazine as the pistol.

 

[papajohn]

When Ruger brought out the PC-9 and the PC-4 (Patrol Carbine in 9 or 40) I seriously thought about buying one, now I'm glad I didn't. A buddy got one awhile back, and it has absolutely THE WORST trigger I've ever pulled in my life, bar none. 25 pounds or more, no kidding. It also throws the brass (40S&W, in this case) out the side at high velocity, and thirty feet or better with factory ammo. Stand to the right of the shooter one time, you'll never do it again!

As someone suggested earlier, I've always lusted for an M-1 Carbine-style rifle in 10mm. 20-round stick magazine, ghost ring sights, and a companion gun in a belt holster. The Ultimate Pig Rig!

PJ