Paper cartridges and BPCR

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Stupid question, but are the paper cartridge sharps rifles legal for BPCR (or BPCR silhouette) competition? I read the rules but it seemed the Powers That Be could fall either way on paper cartridges, and my google-fu failed me in finding any committee rulings on this (or any) subject.

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GB
 
I have not seen it done, but I cannot imagine a club match not letting you give it a try.
I would not buy a gun for it without a clear ruling from NRA, but if you have one, take it out.
 
I have a distaste for what has become of BPCR competition over the past 25 years. If you start knocking down too many sillywets, they will find a way to disqualify you. They let in rifles that were too late in history, exclude those of the period and lived in such fear of Mausers and Martinis that they required exterior hammers to disqualify those all together.. The NRA took a good thing and ruined it IMHO. Was a time it was a friendly bunch shooting old single shot military guns. Got to be a combination of money for the expensive gear, and nit picking rules.

There was a fellow here in central PA that had a 1879 military martini in 577-450 that could beat the crap out of everybody. a sudden rule change disqualified him.
 
A paper cartridge sharps would surely fall under military rifle category in either bpcr sillouette or bptr.

The martini's have never been legal in bpcr sillouette as they were not American manufacturer. The rules for bpcr Sillouette were established by the shooters and not the NRA, and those rules were done mostly according to what rifles were available at the time.. altho it is still a great puzzlement as to why the Borchardt was left out, other than at the time of bpcr getting off the ground and running, most if not all the folks were recovering buckskinners and as such that exposed hammer was the lust of their lives..
 
The rules for BPCR Target Rifle are less restrictive than for Metallic Silhouette.
Higher weight limit and period hammerless allowed. Still no bolt actions, not even a 71 Mauser or a Sharps Lee.
 
I shot a great deal of BPCR before the NRA got involved with sanctioning and rules. The NRA rules were established by the manufacturers to exclude whatever period guns they did not like and to allow whichever the manufacturers made. We were shooting original guns in competitions back in the early 1970's. Any gun or replica of a gun made, sold or issued in North America before 1880 was legal. Didn't matter what kind of action. or what kind of cartridge.

Then the NRA and it's minions brought shooter classes, etc. A newbie got thrown automatically in the top class just to scare him off. You couldn't use an H&R because of the ejector, another move designed to keep out the newbies.

The rules were contrived to sell expensive guns and even more expensive sights. Last time I competed under NRA rules, with a Trapdoor, I shot a 27 out of 40. But the powers that be changed the rules by the next time I showed up. No more wiping between shots was permitted. Just so much road apples.
 
Thanks, guys. I wasn't sure whether the percussion sharps even qualified as a "cartridge" gun. Are the NRA committee rulings available anywhere?

thanks,
GB
 
zimmerstutzen said:
I shot a great deal of BPCR before the NRA got involved with sanctioning and rules. The NRA rules were established by the manufacturers to exclude whatever period guns they did not like and to allow whichever the manufacturers made. We were shooting original guns in competitions back in the early 1970's. Any gun or replica of a gun made, sold or issued in North America before 1880 was legal. Didn't matter what kind of action. or what kind of cartridge.

Then the NRA and it's minions brought shooter classes, etc. A newbie got thrown automatically in the top class just to scare him off. You couldn't use an H&R because of the ejector, another move designed to keep out the newbies.

The rules were contrived to sell expensive guns and even more expensive sights. Last time I competed under NRA rules, with a Trapdoor, I shot a 27 out of 40. But the powers that be changed the rules by the next time I showed up. No more wiping between shots was permitted. Just so much road apples.
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There is no such prohibition against wiping between shots.
The H&R handirifles are not allowed for prize consideration , because there is nothing to document them to the time frame provided in the rules. This comes up all the time and no one ever comes up with the proper documentation to present the the Black Powder Committee to have them allowed into the rules...
Newbies do run against the masters on their first trip, but after that they get classed according to their score levels. It's no big deal to any of the shooters I've ever seen or been around.
 
brass cases for paper cartridge sharps

Brass cases are available for the sharps paper cartriodge guns how ever I understand they reduce the amount of powder you can use
 
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