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Parallax for Rats

Discussion in 'Air Guns' started by SavingNolanRyan, Sep 10, 2020.

  1. SavingNolanRyan

    SavingNolanRyan Member

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    A few nights ago, was out in the back and discovered rats were getting into the birdseed on the ground. There were quite a few running around 10+. The wife suggested getting rid of the seed, (good call) but I reverted back to my childhood and said we need a pellet gun. (8 year old in 1977 Calif drought). Shooting roof rats that were coming in for water, birdseed and the lemon and grapefruit trees. All my pellet guns are sadly long gone, but I borrowed my friends Crosman model 66 in .177 and we started trying to shoot the rats at night. They have since gone away, (or smartened up and return when I am not stalking at midnight). Might also be the fact my wife took away the food source..LOL

    Anyhow, me and my son have had a great time shooting targets in the backyard. My eyes are not the best anymore, and I struggle with blurry images and if the iron sites are lined up, etc. I can still hit the bullseye at ~10yards, but much further and it is really difficult to focus and see clearly a target the size of a dime.

    I am thinking of using a scope I have in a box - Leupold VX Freedom-2-7x33. These are factory set with Parallax at 150yards.

    How much is that going to affect close shot? Do I really need to get a rimfire scope, (parallax set at 60yards) or even go so far as to get one with AO parallax adjustment down to 10m? This is going to be used to shoot targets in the backyard and general plinking, (and rats around 15-30 feet).

    Thoughts?

    Mike
     
  2. edwardware

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    Scope parallax vanishes if you keep you eye centered in the ocular, so you can drive that behaviour. You can also mount the scope at the edge of it's eye relief, then use the shadow ring to make sure you're centered.

    In my experience with very close/small targets (chipmunks), scope to bore offset is the overwhelming problem.
     
  3. Fine Figure of a Man

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    I'd go with rat poison and number 8 or 9 shot in an open choke 12 ga.
     
  4. H&R Glock

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    Advertise wanted a "night vision ratting sniper." There are tons of them in Great Britain, there must be a few here in the U.S.
    I watch all the ratters on You Tube. A few are real professionals. Big game hunting from the easy chair! :)
     
  5. SavingNolanRyan

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    I have seen a few of those vids. I have to say the thermal scopes were fun to watch.

    I get the issue will be having the scope over barrel and either hold under for close shots or zero at ~10yards. I bought myself a Diana RWS 34 and will start with the iron sites on that one, (might be easier that the old iron sites of the Crosman 66).

    Mike
     
  6. LoonWulf
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    I find even rimfire scopes aren't adequate for sub 20yds. My airguns all carry scopes that can focus down to 10yds, but with a sub 4x scope Its less critical.

    I also like grid/mil reticles, as they help gauging hold over/under.
     
  7. SavingNolanRyan

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    LoonWulf,

    What are some of your favorite scopes for a springer that focus down to 10yards. I have seen many options, but not sure which to purchase. UTG Bugbuster and Hawke Vantage, others??
     
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    I used to really like the bugbusters, but the last few i used werent as good as i the first few i got. I havent had one in the last two years or so tho. Ive also had good luck with the Hammers 3-9x40 MAGNUM. The only Hawk i have is an old prosport that isnt springer rated.
    Im finding I still dont deal with springer recoil well, otherwise Id probably spring for a Clearidge Ultra RM for the XS25 I picked up recently.
     
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  10. SavingNolanRyan

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    Well, it was weird, I originally tried to buy a Hatsan 95 that comes with a scope, (that apparently is not good at all). The rifle was on backorder until 9/7 and then when I checked the website, they extended the backorder. I then decided to go with the Diana RWS 34 .22 as it was in stock. They said they shipped it Friday, but the FedEx site showed the shipment was cancelled by sender. I sent them numerous emails and was on the phone today trying to get customer service to see what was up. Could not get through, it would disconnect after 20min or so on hold. Knock at the door....FedEx with a box.....bam...Diana RWS 34!!!! I was surprised at the size and weight, (feels like my Marlin Model 60 Glenfield .22 LR). I immediately took it out back and shot it. I was surprised at the accuracy and the power. This is not a Crosman pump .177. I really like the "iron" sites...I guess I will call them open sites. The colored fiber optics make it easy to align the site. I wish my vision was better to see 20feet, but my target is blurry as hell.

    I think a scope will help, so I decided on a Bushnell Banner 4-12X40. Will see how it goes with that scope.
     
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    The r-34s a very nice gun, I think you'll be happy with it.
     
  12. Bill_in_TR

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    I have a Diana 34 in .177 and really like it. It has been a sweet shooter for me for a lot of years. Just make sure that Bushnell Banner is rated to stand up to the spring piston recoil of your 34.
     
  13. SavingNolanRyan

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    I found some reviews and happy people using this Bushnell Banner on springers and thought it was airgun rated. AFTER I ordered the scope I found a few posts that state they contacted Bushnell and the Banner line is NOT airgun rated.....Trying to cancel to order something different....yikes.
     
  14. LoonWulf
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    I was about to post that I've had a Bushnell Banner on a heavy chinese Springer and it held up fine, but I couldn't remember if I ever actually found out if it was airgun rated. There actually arnt that many cheaper scopes that ARE, the bugbusters, hammers, and a few "house" brands sold by airgun dealers. From the majors Leupold, and Clearidge, were the only ones that replied to me that those scopes are Springer rated.
     
  15. SavingNolanRyan

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    It was impossible to reach the vendor yesterday as my order was about to ship out. The system wouldn't let me cancel as it was ready for shipment. I was going to try to cancel, but this AM I told them to ship it as ordered. This is right on the vendor's website as a description for the scope.

    The Bushnell Banner 4-12x40 Rifle Scope Matte Multi-X 714124 belongs to well-known Bushnell Banner Riflescopes series. This high-power, variable scope from Bushnell is great for long-range centerfire shooting, and is also ideal for adult break-barrel airguns. They'll tell you more tags are filled in the low-light hours than any other time. That said, it's wise to have a scope designed to excel in early-morning and late-evening light. Featuring Dusk & Dawn Brightness (DDB) multi-coated lenses for clarity and brightness in low light, you'll add precious minutes to every hunting day with the Banner Dusk & Dawn series. With one-piece tube design, the Banner Dusk & Dawn line includes a full assortment of specialty scopes for big-game, varmint, .22 rimfire, slug, black powder and turkey hunting.
     
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  16. Bill_in_TR

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    Well as long as they will stand behind that statement with regards to any warranty coverage you should be good to go.
     
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  17. HankC

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    WalMart Center Point AO scopes work well on springers.
     
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