Pardner Protector and Knoxx SpecOps

[ManOfTheWest]

I know there are a few folks on here who have the NEF Pardner Protector (tactical shotty). I find the recoil unbearable so, as a solution, I bought the Knoxx Spec Ops Stock from Blackhawk. Installation was a cinch, except for one thing: there's almost an INCH gap between the receiver and stock. In fact the stock is sliding back and forth that one inch.

Those of you who use the Knoxx, tell me: is the pre-installed HEX HEAD BOLT in the stock supposed to move back and forth so loosely? This seems to be the problem, but I could be wrong. Note that I removed the spacer as per instructions. I tightend the hex bolt with the extended rounded allen wrench as far as it will go. Still lots of gap. Obviously something is wrong.

Opinions?

 

[Homerboy]

Wasn't aware Knoxx made a stock for the pardner. My Knoxx stock fits like a glove on my Remington 870. Should be no gap and solid as well.

 

[MAX100]

If anyone has a problem installing a 870 stock on a Pardner Pump a few have a metric thread pattern receiver stud.


GC

 

[mbt2001]

My knoxx fits perfectly on my 870... No gap.

ManoftheWest, I don't want to sound like a jerk, but are you shooting the gun correctly? I have included a link below, this poor guy is shooting a gun that is too long for him with a stance that is incorrect and most likely is bruising his shoulder. I agree, shooting a 12 gauge can be a pain after awhile, but running through a box of shells should not hurt in the unbearable ouch I want to cry sense.

Make sure the stock is fitted correctly and then make sure that your shoulders are square, your feet shoulder width apart (one can be in front of the other, just not overly exaggerated) and the gun is in the meat of the shoulder. I have included a video for that too.

I hope this helps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbFJpLuSc1M (incorrect stance / size)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvGWfdiTkqQ (incorrect stance / size / inability to handle the recoil as a result)

A lot of the "girl shooting" video's are youtube show girls shooting guns that are sized incorrectly for them, resulting (whether they say it or not) in pain when they shoot because their stance was off).

This is the correct way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6j0fKENbeU

Well I say THE correct way, there are a couple of them, this is "tactical correct" but the only shooting videos I could find were "tactical" or some poor chick / kid getting rocked by a 12 gauge.

BTW - never do that to you kid / girlfriend / wife / daughter. It makes them fear and hate guns.

 

[ManOfTheWest]

Make sure the stock is fitted correctly and then make sure that your shoulders are square, your feet shoulder width apart (one can be in front of the other, just not overly exaggerated) and the gun is in the meat of the shoulder. I have included a video for that too.

I'm very conscious of my stance which, in my mind's eye at least, approximates "tactical correct" ie: the stance demonstrated in that third video. Unfortunately nobody has critiqued my technique yet, as I do most of my shooting alone.

It's very possible that I'm not seating the shotgun stock correctly in my shoulder. Hence, the pain. I'll need an experienced shotgunner to check out what I'm doing but until then, I'm hoping the Knoxx at least reduces the recoil to manageable levels.

Could be that I'm just a wimp

If anyone has a problem installing a 870 stock on a Pardner Pump a few have a metric thread pattern receiver stud.

The Knoxx has what looks like a washer in the pre-installed Hex head bolt. The washer sits about a half inch from the end of the bolt. This washer is what's giving me problems. I can only screw it about a half inch into the receiver stud before I hit that washer.

Question: am I supposed to continue turning the allen wrench until that washer gets pushed back? This is difficult. Progress is VERY VERY slow. The wrench offers hardly any leverage. I was getting it through but abandoned the job as I wasn't sure if I might be doing something wrong. So I reversed it and extracted the bolt.

Monday I'm calling Blackhawk for advice. Depending on what they say, I might just take it to a local gunsmith and let them install it.

Thanks to everyone who chimed in!

 

[ManOfTheWest]

My Pardner Protector has one of the best recoil setups I've ever seen on a stock shotgun. I thought I would be buying a new recoil pad but there was absolutely no reason for it. In fact it works far better than the Remington R-3 pad (made by Limbsaver) that I have on my Remington 870 Express.

I remember your comments from another thread. IIRC, you recently bought your Pardner and had excellent feedback regarding the pad. Feedback that did not mirror my experience. Of course I bought my Pardner back in November, and it's possible that Marlin might've upgraded/improved their factory recoil pads since then. If so, how can I get in on this? Let's find out. So I called and asked them to send me the latest, maybe it'll solve the problem and, like you, I can sing praises. Marlin was more than happy to send me a new recoil pad, no charge. Good deal!

Unfortunately, I'm sad to say the "new" pad is EXACTLY like the old pad. No difference whatsoever.

Hey, perhaps some of us have a higher threshold for recoil pain. I dunno.

I would want to make sure I knew what I was doing before I spent money on a new stock and went throught the trouble of installing it.

Which is why I'm gonna let a gunsmith work on it.

Thanks for the comments.

 

[wuzuprad]

Did you ever get this resolved? Im thinking of getting the same stock