Park Rangers shoot puppy between the eyes,puppy lives!

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mber 16, 2004
Stories differ in shooting of dog:
Owner disputes ranger’s report that he was bitten
By BRIAN SEALS
SENTINEL STAFF WRITER

Life is pretty tough for Diego these days.

The 9-month-old Labrador mix has to be hand fed on the hour, as well as taking his medications.

Like any puppy, he is anxious to play, to fetch.

But that will take time. Diego has a bullet-size hole between his eyes.

"The doctor said he is a miracle," said Lucia Baccaro, Diego’s owner. "He walked himself into the hospital, he walked himself out of the hospital."

Diego was shot by a State Parks ranger Dec. 7 at Seacliff State Beach. He lived through it, but had surgery for the second time Wednesday evening and was staying overnight at Santa Cruz Veterinary Hospital.

His plight is a tale of conflicting accounts.

State Parks officials maintain the dog attacked the ranger. Baccaro says Diego was not growling or barking when the incident occurred.

An internal investigation is ongoing, State Parks officials said.

It all started after Baccaro got off work from an area animal clinic that evening.

Normally, she takes Diego to the dog park at the Polo Grounds. But it was late, and she had noticed dogs at Seacliff State Beach.

That was just what the New Jersey-born Baccaro envisioned when she moved to the Golden State in August.

"I just wanted to play with my dog on a beach in California," Baccaro said this week as, perhaps ironically, a man and his unleashed pet played fetch on the nearby sand at Seacliff Beach.

She drove her Jeep and the dogs to Seacliff State Beach, driving into the lower parking area where she parked in front of a set of steps, near the camper area.

It was her first time at that beach with her dogs.

They had been there about a half-hour as Diego played fetch with his favorite red tennis ball.

"I just figured, it’s night. No one is here," Baccaro said.

What happened next happened quickly.

The ranger pulled up at roughly 6:30 p.m. Baccaro said she picked up her smaller dog, a Chihuahua named Trey, to put into the Jeep. That’s when the stories diverge.

Baccaro said the ranger ordered her to control Diego, who was in the process of bringing the ball back to her.

But in a split-second a gunshot rang out before she could respond to the ranger’s command, she said.

"There was not even a second (to call her dog)", Baccaro said. "It all happened so quickly. I didn’t see the gun. I just heard the shot."

State Parks officials say the dog attacked the ranger. While the investigation is under way, Santa Cruz District Superintendent Dave Vincent said State Parks’ account is that the dog was being aggressive and bit the ranger.

"He was physically biting the ranger according to our account," Vincent said this week. "I think this investigation will substantiate that fact."

He said the ranger on patrol that evening was a three-year veteran with hundreds of contacts with the public involving dogs.

But Baccaro insists Diego did not attack and was not holding on to the ranger as the shot was fired.

Whatever the case, Diego’s collar fell to the ground, and the wounded animal fled toward the Rio del Mar end of the beach.

Meanwhile, Baccaro found herself cuffed and sitting in the back of the ranger’s patrol car.

More rangers showed up and looked for the dog as Baccaro sat in the back seat, she said.

Baccaro was cited and released, but by then Diego was nowhere in sight.

Rangers looked for the dog until about 8 p.m. before leaving, she said. Baccaro searched as well.

Baccaro got a call the next day from Santa Cruz Veterinary Hospital saying her dog had been found.

A man named Michael had spotted Diego and taken him to the emergency room at the hospital, she said.

The bullet entered the dog’s head between the eyes and exited his throat.

Baccaro is happy to have her dog back. But she has a $3,000 doctor’s bill and citations issued by State Parks related to the unleashed dog and being at the park after closing time that she intends to fight.

"I have no problem pleading guilty to being here after hours, but that is no reason for a dog to get shot," she said.

She has filed a complaint against the ranger and would like for State Parks to pay the vet bill.

Vincent said the internal investigation is being conducted by State Parks Public Safety investigators from Sacramento. He hopes the investigation will be complete in about 30 days.

State Parks’ policy on leashed dogs is aimed at a compromise between pet owners and people who don’t enjoy random encounters with canines.

Though seeing dogs off-leash is not uncommon, Vincent said that is a matter of staffing. Rangers patrol long segments of the coast and can’t be at all the beaches all the time. When they see a dog running around, they stop and talk to the owner as priorities permit, he said.

Rangers stop people in the park after hours as well. The first time, the people are usually issued a warning; a card is filled out with the person’s name and filed at the Felton office. The second time a name shows up on file typically results in citation.

"The reason for the contact was that she was there after hours," Vincent said. "It was a simple routine contact. We don’t want to be put in a situation like this. It’s a no-win situation for the ranger and the pet guardian. This didn’t have to happen."

Baccaro received calls of concern about the incident from a State Parks superintendent, but there has been no offer to pay the bill, she said.

Moreover, she questions whether the ranger who shot her dog should continue on the job.

The whole incident has left her a bit shaken, but at least Diego is alive.

"The one thing I learned, miracles do happen," she said.

Anyone who would like to help Baccaro with the veterinary bill may e-mail her at [email protected].

Contact Brian Seals at [email protected].
Park rules for dogs
# Dogs are required to be leashed. Fine is $30 for violation.

# Noncampers are to be out of the park by closing time. Fine is $100 for violation. Parks generally close at sunset during the winter and at 10 p.m. in the winter.

# A first-time offense for either is usually a warning; a card is filled out with the person’s name and filed. The second time, if a name shows up on file, typically results in citation.
 
I think this is pretty simple ... if the ranger has bite marks he was in the right, if not he's fired.
Plus he gets to pay the vet bill and compensate the owner for the hassle.
 
They should take up a collection to pay for the woman's vet bills, and to equip their rangers with a more effective caliber handgun. Also, that's a scary accurate shot if the animal was biting the ranger. Who here would shoot for the head if they were being bitten?
 
Doesn't add up.
I think if he shot while being bitten the bullet should have exited the back of the dogs head or gone into the ranger's arm instead of out through his throat.

If the dog was in the process of biting there should be scuffle tracks at the rangers feet.

If a shot was fired there should have been an investigation started at the time of the incident.
 
Would one not also expect POWDER BURNS

on the dog's head from such an (allegedly) point-blank shooting? :scrutiny:
 
heh. They're not gonna tell us. It's a 'personnel matter' and all that. :rolleyes: bastiches.
 
And if that rangers name ever gets public it's over for him.

There are too many people that don't care if kids get shot but shoot a dog and nooooooooooo :(
 
If a large, strange dog acted aggressively and came at me

It would also get several 115 gr jhp. I'm not going to wait to be bitten before I fire. I like dogs but I've seen to many people mauled by dogs. I'm going home the same way I came in (plus or minus a few donuts).
 
I'm not going to wait to be bitten before I fire.

"He was physically biting the ranger according to our account," Vincent said this week.

If the ranger has no bite marks then he lied about being bit which leads me to believe he lied about the dog "attacking" or "acting aggressive" in the first place and should be fired for wrecklessly discharging his firearm.

If he has bite marks then he's 100% in the right and I hope people will just leave him alone now.
 
Guess that's what it boils down to - if there was a bite, "Good job Ranger, glad you're in one peice."

If not, "Pack your stuff. Gun and badge on my desk. We'll call you when we need you..." (And not because he shot the dog, because he lied about an incident in which deadly force was used. Lying about such should cost the dept. a lot.)
 
Even if the internal investigation finds that the ranger should not have fired, you can bet that he won't be charged with any crime.

Now what if he wasn't a cop? Do you think he would face criminal charges? Of course he would. Why the double standard?
 
When I was nine, our yellow lab puppy rushed me once. What ensued was a no-holds-barred, high-energy wrestling match in the dirt with me losing. I was absolutely covered in dog spit and slobber. :p

LAR-15: There are too many people that don't care if kids get shot but shoot a dog and nooooooooooo :(

Reason behind this is that these days, those "kids" often need it. Innocence (in whatever form) for many ends at 12. And the term "kid" is used loosely, often up to the age of 20. Besides, it ain't the years... it's the mileage.

Eye for an eye (or at least comparable entry/exit wounds), IMO. Someone's being awful quiet about this, and it ain't the owner.
 
How many have you seen mauled by a 9 month old clumsy Lab puppy.

I know you were addressing LAR-15 but, i have personally seen a 6 year old child minus his upper lip due to a lab about that age, it DOES happen. Not saying that it did in this situation Labs are generally the most mild mannered of animals, but they CAN go nuts just like anything else. And i am guessing that it is a shelter dog (the owner works at one) of unknown heritage and temperment that kinda sorta looks like a "black lab" so God knows what it actually is.

I noticed that the owner seems to do a lot of equivicating(sp) in the article. It may just be the way the writter put it all together but it seems odd:

State Parks officials maintain the dog attacked the ranger. Baccaro says Diego was not growling or barking when the incident occurred.
Ok, I say "Your dog attacked this person" and you respond with "My dog wasnt growling or barking when the incident occured" Are you actually saying that your dog didnt attack the person?

But Baccaro insists Diego did not attack and was not holding on to the ranger as the shot was fired.
Why does Baccaro qualify her statement by saying "as the shot was fired"? Would it not make more sense to state that her dog didnt bit the ranger AT ALL? its an odd choice of words I think.

The problem I have with these two statements made by the dog owner is that even if one were to assume that they were 100% TRUE they would not invalidate the account made by the rangers. In other words every word of Baccaro's statement could be true and the dog could still have commited every action that is being claimed. It is VERY reminescent of Bill Clinton's "sexual relations" speech.

The fact is that the only people that are every going to know what happened there are the people who were there. I doubt we will ever get the full story.
 
I've worked in an animal shelter & have been bitten

My "hunch" is that the PR should not have shot the puppy.
I wonder what kind of ammo the PR was using.

Anyway a 9 month old puppy is hardly a threat to a grown man with a gun,baton,pepper spray and the ability to pass a departmental physical.
A swift kick would have been enough.

I think he was "teaching" the owner a lesson. Still I wouldn't fire the guy,unless of course it was my puppy.

I was walking my dog late one night and heard growling and running coming at me in the dark park I was in,I reached for my SUREFIRE & identified the growler...it too turned out to be a big puppy,all it took was a light in it's eyes to stop that puppies ferocious attack :rolleyes:
 
Baccaro found herself cuffed and sitting in the back of the ranger’s patrol car.
The dog's dilema aside, does anyone else have an issue with this part of the story? Lemme see--I, the park 'Ranger' shoot your dog while I am in no apparent danger, then I lock you up for my safety.

I hope she sends this stupid organization into a financial tailspin and this a-hole gets canned.

A great deal of police are simply out of control. We have multiple stories of tazer assaults on children, shooting dogs that are not aggressive, no-knock warrants on the wrong house, etc. Someone needs to get back to peace-keeping and dispense with 'law enforcement.' Being a cop used to be a respectable thing and there are plenty of respectable cops out there (my best friend is one) but it seems as a whole that the newbies coming out are too focused on control and not on community policing.

Greg
 
From what I read I think you'll have a hard time defending the ranger until it's known if he HAD bite marks immediately following the "encounter". If no bite marks are registered in the report then he gets fired. I seems unnecessary to have cuffed the woman, he should have let her search for her wounded dog. I'm sure she was hysterical, but that doesn't mean she's a threat.
 
I'm sure she was hysterical, but that doesn't mean she's a threat.
If a park ranger just shot your puppy, none of you would be upset? Right. How many theads in the past have you dog owners sweared you would kill anyone who killed your dog?

Hmmm, a nine month old dog might be a puppy by name, but it is a good sized dog. Also note that this isn't a full blooded lab but a "Labrador mix". So we don't know what kind of mix.

Sure maybe the ranger could have used a baton or some pepper spray and I think that is the only lesson he/she is going to learn here. Next time club or spray it as it causes less public attention. Other than that, I don't feel a lot of sympathy for someone who illegally had their dog on the beach after hours and without a leash. Sorry, I am not going to equate this to police brutality, no knock warrants, and other such things. This won't be my soapbox for my anti-LEO/Cop rhetoric. Just like I wouldn't claim that all hunters need to stop killing innocent people like the psycho in WI.

Then again, that wouldn't be the High Road way. Anytime something happens, we need to armchair quarterback it with limited information and take an opportunity to spew some distaste for anytype of law enforcement possible. :(
 
I have a friend who has a Dobermine/German Shepard mix. Evan at 9 months, that dog could very well be a deadly threat. I understand that this dog was a lab, but just because someone else considers it a puppy, doesn't mean it isn't dangerous.

If he has bitemarks, good shoot. If he doesn't, pack up your things.

Either way, the unleashed dog and being in the closed park citations should stand.
 
If a park ranger just shot your puppy, none of you would be upset? Right. How many theads in the past have you dog owners sweared you would kill anyone who killed your dog?

Point for you. I own a cat, but I have a pretty good feeling that if you were to harm her, I would send some hurt in your direction. Especially if you shot my animal out of spite or to teach me a lesson. So in this case locking me up would be for your protection, but would only delay the inevitable.

Sure maybe the ranger could have used a baton or some pepper spray and I think that is the only lesson he/she is going to learn here. Next time club or spray it as it causes less public attention. Other than that, I don't feel a lot of sympathy for someone who illegally had their dog on the beach after hours and without a leash. Sorry, I am not going to equate this to police brutality, no knock warrants, and other such things.

I was not the leo in the scenario, so I cannot make that call. However IMHO you had better have a damn good reason to use lethal force on an unarmed woman and 9mo lab mix. Otherwise it's back to the mall for you. Like was said before he'd better have teeth marks or he's got sum 'splainen to do.
 
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