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paypal upcharge??

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Caliber, Mar 23, 2010.

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  1. Caliber

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    Why is it that all the users selling items in THR forum charge the 4% paypal charge? You go to ebay and nobody even asks for that.. The 4% fee is worth the convenience to me and in my opinion more items would sell if paypal was accepted.. Do people realize how much of a pain it is to go out and get a money order for some people with busy schedules. All I know is people should get with the times and welcome online transactions.

    And this forum is fantastic and I thank you all.
     
  2. General Geoff

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    Online transactions are fine but PayPal is known to have very anti-gun policies. That's why I closed my PayPal account a few years ago and will not reactivate it.
     
  3. Motodeficient

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    On ebay you can't charge extra for paypal fees. Ebay won't let you, because ebay OWNS paypal.

    I agree though, on all other forums I have been on, especially computer forums, NOBODY asks for extra to be paid through paypal. I personally don't care about a few extra cents compared to having the money instantly and like you said, its much easier to sell something if you accept paypal.
     
  4. kwelz

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    Ebay doesn't allow for it. If they did many people would.
    Normally an Ebay that upcharge will be built into the reserve, etc. On here people normally take cash or MO as well so they don't want to take a hit on Paypal.
     
  5. Caliber

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    Thank you all for your input.. I now understand better.
     
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    There's a simple yet unknown way to avoid the fees. Mark the funds sent as "personal" and the transfer is free. Shhhh.....don't tell Paypal about this!
     
  7. bmph8ter

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    People do it because they don't want to take the hit if someone uses Paypal. But, it's against Paypal policy for you to charge an extra fee for accepting Paypal. Technically, someone could lose their Paypal account for doing it if they phrase it that way.

    To skirt it, you'd have to do it like the gas stations do with credit cards. You CAN'T charge an extra fee for accepting a card, but you CAN offer a "cash" discount.

    Don't like Paypal a lot, but I will say that for me it's much more convenient to use for buying/selling online as that's what almost everyone uses.

    Haven't ever used it for a firearms related transaction as I don't even have any firearms yet; ha! Supposed to get the first ones today though; a 380 & 22 pistols that belonged to my grandfather.
     
  8. HexHead

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    I question the ethics of any seller that tries to pass along the fees. They agreed to the User Agreement when they signed up for PayPal, and it expressly forbids the practice. If they aren't a person of their word, maybe they're lying about the condition of what they're selling? You're either a man of your word or you're not.
     
  9. HexHead

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    You're better off doing this anyway as PayPal is anti-gun to begin with.
     
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    I don't ask for extra, but I happily pay the extra fee if the seller requires it. Going to the post office is a nightmare. I generally use paypal for transactions less than $100 (if the seller requires fees).

    Although I did buy a $4K motorcycle sight unseen once... :scrutiny:
     
  11. EddieNFL

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    I avoid sellers that use PayPal. I don't like enriching my enemies.
     
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    BTW if you fund the payment via your linked bank account, and you click "personal" and "other" there are no fees for either the seller or the buyer.
     
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    For a vendor sometimes it's the best or only option, but they are the highest merchant fees that we are charged. It just comes with doing business on the internet. M/C and VISA offer the best rates to merchants. It evens out a little in the long run since for us Paypal isn't used as much by our customers.
     
  14. buy guns

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    Unless something has changed, it's illegal to ask the buyer to cover the paypal fees.
     
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    you mean against their policies...it isn't illegal however I don't understand those that ask me to pay the fee when it is they that want paypal to be used...
    Bill
     
  16. Kindrox

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    Sometimes stuff like this gets passed around as fact when it isn't. I am not saying the above is not true, but if it is, please cite the referance.

    I know people say the same stuff about credit cards when in fact it is not a blanket true statement, as has been shown on this forum.
     
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    From PayPal's latest agreement:

    8. Fees.
    8.1 Fees Overview.

    Fees are based on whether you are making a Purchase Payment or a Personal Payment.

    For Purchase Payments, the recipient of the payment will always pay the fee.


    it does appear to me that PayPal has changed their rules a bit since I joined about 8 years ago...
     
  19. rogertc1

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    Seems like only yesterday guns could be sold on E-Bay. Now they are anti-gun too.
     
  20. taliv

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    allow me to summarize paypal's rules for you

    1. take all you can
    2. give nothin back
     
  21. ol' scratch

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    I just sell junk on Ebay, get my payment from Paypal and use the money...to buy more guns and ammo:).
     
  22. ktn65

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    I've been using PayPal for years, but am somewhat new to firearm purchasing and paying attention to the anti-gun crowd. How is PayPal anti-gun? (I'm not asking to stir the pot or anything, I just haven't heard this until now)
     
  23. hso

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    You could argue that ebay/PayPal lawyers are just making sure to keep them out of possible legal hot water in states that aggressively regulate and use those regulations against gun owners, but then you'd expect banks and the USPS to worry about their checks and MOs causing harassing prosecutions too if it were a real issue.

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=504773

    No convenience payment system is perfect, but they are convenient and you pay for that one way or another.
     
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  24. wsfarrell

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    Legal or not, firearms dealers are just about the only ones on the web to charge PayPal fees. I think they do it because they can--i.e., the stuff they're selling is often hard to get anywhere else.
     
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    Me to.
     
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