peace activist gets lesson on fruits of passivity

[Glock-A-Roo]

Do you suppose that while laid up in the hospital he's ruminating on the philosphy of self-defense?

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/44841.htm

MAN SHOT IN HOME INVASION A PEACENIK
By BRIDGET HARRISON and ERIN CALABRESE

The grad student shot in a home-invasion horror on the Upper West Side is a peace activist who hails from a small Pennsylvania town and moved to the Big Apple only last year, friends said yesterday.

Keith Whitmoyer, a 24-year-old philosophy student at the New School, is battling lung and stomach wounds in St. Luke's Hospital after Sunday's vicious attack. He was shot in front of his terrified fiancée after a thug followed her into their building on West 108th Street and pushed his way into the apartment, demanding cash.

After robbing the pair, the burglar appeared to linger, prompting Whitmoyer to ask, "Are you going to shoot me now?" The thug then pumped three bullets into him.

Yesterday, Whitmoyer's shaken fiancée, Anne van Leeuwen, helped cops put together a sketch of the gunman.

"He [Whitmoyer] is doing much better, but our concentration is on getting him home and getting him well and finding the person who did it," said his mother, Joan Whitmoyer.

A friend said Whitmoyer and van Leeuwen moved in together two months ago.

"It was their first place together," said pal Summer Teague.

Whitmoyer and van Leeuwen are human-rights activists and volunteer with "The War Resistors League," friends said.

Additional reporting by Dan Kadison and Larry Celona

 

[ZeroX]

Great, ask to be shot.

 

[pax]

After robbing the pair, the burglar appeared to linger, prompting Whitmoyer to ask, "Are you going to shoot me now?" The thug then pumped three bullets into him.

My dad always told me not to ask questions if I didn't want to know the answer...

pax

 

[mathyoo]

Sounds like he deserved every bit of it.

 

[pax]

mathyoo ~

Yuck, what a horrible sentiment.

pax

 

[hso]

Victim responsible for being victimized, Mathyoo? I hope you never have children, especially daughters.

 

[armoredman]

Hope he pulls through, moves out of New York, marries his live in, and buys a nice used CZ75....

What is that old saying, the definiton of a conservative, is a liberal that's been mugged?

 

[Rebar]

I think they both got a harsh lesson about how the real world works.

 

[itgoesboom]

I find it sad when anyone is mugged and shot....even if I don't agree with them politically.

Probably not a good idea to ask if he was going to shoot though....

I.G.B.

 

[boofus]

He should have dialed 911

 

[dasmi]

Sounds like he deserved every bit of it.

That is a disgusting statement. Yes, he was stupid, no, he did not deserve to get shot. He may be a bed-wetting peace-nick, but he still didn't deserve a bullet. The intruder sure did, but not peace-love-happyness-boy.

 

[hayseed]

the invader deserves a bullet, not this guy.....

I wouldn't hold my breath on the pacifist coming to his senses, he will most likely be even more of an anti now after that nasty gun forced it's way in and shot him.

 

[DelayedReaction]

I hope he makes it okay, and that both he and his fiancee are able to come to terms with what happened.

 

[Desertdog]

He may have his eyes open now.

Someone in his neighborhood needs to invite him to a gun range as soon as he is able to get out and do things.

He just might be ready to be converted.

 

[jdberger]

I smell Karl Rove....(sarcasm)

 

[bjbarron]

I'm sure we all know people who are sweet souls. You know, people you meet whom you respect, but who are not the kind of people who whould be able to defend themselves...but neither do they demand that everyone give up their guns. They are non-violent, but realistic. They understand the need for rough men (and women).

This guy doesn't sound like that. Notice it's the second instance recently where a NYC liberal asked if the goblin was going to shoot...and got shot. That is about as unrealistic as it gets.

Hopefully he learned something.

 

[Daemon688]

Maybe he will learn the error of his ways and become a convert. He would be a wonderful "poster boy" of an anti changed. The NRA should try and recruit him as a spokesperson, if he changes that is.

 

[Vernal45]

If you make a choice not to defend yourself, then you deserve what you get. I am sorry that this guy got shot. You reap what you sow.

 

[model 649]

"Are you going to shoot me, now?"

Seems some days nobody likes a smart-a**. Philosophical rule #1: Don't mess with a guy pointing a gun at you. (Especially when he's got the drop on you!)
Josh

 

[Dionysusigma]

What was that Max Payne quote (the game, not the THR member)...

"He had a baseball bat. I was tied to a chair. P*ssing him off seemed like the smart thing to do." :banghead:

I hope the guy lives, remains peaceful, but does so through superior firepower.

 

[Standing Wolf]

If you make a choice not to defend yourself, then you deserve what you get. I am sorry that this guy got shot. You reap what you sow.

I have to concur. None of that applies to children, obviously, but it seems to me adults who abdicate responsibility for themselves really ought to sit down, shut up, and do some fast, serious learning.

I hope others will learn from this nitwit's damned foolish mistake.

 

[Old Dog]

Ah yes, more pronouncements of judgement, from the comfort of the ol' desk chair, from those who've probably never looked at the wrong end of a gun in real life.

Some of you might be surprised what sort of foolish and nonsensical gibberish one will spout the first time one has a bad person pointing a gun at one.

 

[Matthew748]

Regrettable. Hopefully he will get well and learn that defending one’s self is not an evil act. There are plenty of bad people in the world, wearing a “victim here” sticker on your forehead just encourages them.

 

[jdberger]

Hopefully he will get well and learn that defending one’s self is not an evil act.

I'm not sure where it said in the article that the guy was a pacifist? A peacenik, yes. Opposed to the war, yes, but never a pacifist. I know lots of people who oppose the war, and war in general - but aren't pacifists.

I also didn't see where it said in the article that the guy made a philosophical choice not to defend himself. The way the article tells it, the guy was being held at gunpoint. What chance did he have?

If you make a choice not to defend yourself, then you deserve what you get.

Who here can beat an already presented pistol?

 

[Risasi]

Who here can beat an already presented pistol?

Nobody, and Bryce is dead...

I dunno, that's something to stand in the face of an assailant and foon him. It's guts or stupidity. Not sure which.