Washington State: "UW group gets a lesson in shooting"

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Nice quote from the Ceasefire person; she assumes they are not teaching safety :rolleyes:

UW group gets a lesson in shooting

By J. Patrick Coolican
Seattle Times Eastside bureau

Some college kids go to poetry readings in bohemian coffeehouses. Given a chance, others will shoot guns at a firing range, the Bellevue-based Second Amendment Foundation believes.
The gun-rights group and a sister organization started a pilot program yesterday called "Freedom Shoot," bringing together about 25 college students — most of them University of Washington College Republicans — and National Rifle Association-certified trainers at Wade's Eastside Gun Shop in Bellevue.

The foundation hopes to unroll the program nationally to get college kids into firing ranges to learn about gun safety and gun rights. Gun-control advocates have doubts about the group's motives, however.

The day began at Second Amendment Foundation offices in Bellevue, whose walls are adorned with prints of guns, John Wayne and rifle-toting cowboys. NRA trainer Phil Murray of Woodinville told the students his shortest course in gun safety is usually four hours, though yesterday's would be closer to 25 minutes.

He said the three important rules of gun safety, in order of importance, are to point the gun in a safe direction, keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot, and to not load the gun until you're ready to fire. The last rule, he added, carries an exception — "If you keep one in your home for self-defense," then it's fine to keep it loaded.

"An unloaded firearm is a paperweight," he said.

Once at the range, the students scooped up ear and eye protection atop a glass case in which an array of guns were displayed. Each student received one-on-one attention from NRA-certified instructors.

Alayna Riggi is a sophomore at UW who hadn't shot a gun before yesterday. She'll be coming back, she said.

"I love the revolver because you feel like you're in a Western," she said of the .22-caliber handgun. Her target, which bore her signature, was ripped apart with bullet holes.

Jason Chambers, who's been shooting his whole life, had six of eight holes in the bull's-eye part of his target. Over the roar of 9 mm gun blasts, he said he didn't think much of gun control.

One gun-control advocate said the event was more about recruiting political foot soldiers than safety. "I would assume this is absolutely not about education; I think it's a political agenda they're pursuing and not a safety agenda," said Laura Lockard, executive director of Washington CeaseFire.

Though he conceded the College Republicans' participation gave the event certain political overtones, Joe Waldron, one of the organizers, said the primary purpose was to teach gun safety to young people who are otherwise ignorant about it.

Lockard said loaded weapons are dangerous and should have to be secured when stored in a home. "That's exactly what's killing our kids — loaded weapons in the home," she said.

"Storage requirements have to be based on that person's particular set of circumstances," Waldron replied, adding, "We put our time and effort on the line as gun-safety teachers; I don't know anyone at CeaseFire who does that."

Since 1997, Wade's has been the site of two accidental shootings — one of them fatal — and three suicides involving guns.

Store manager John Clarke said the store no longer allows people who are alone to rent guns and asks new patrons how experienced they are.

J. Patrick Coolican: 206-464-3315 or [email protected]

Copyright © 2003 The Seattle Times Company
 
Great line about putting time and effort into safety, but Ceasefire not doing it. That's something we should be harping on. The NRA spends time and energy training citizens (LEO and non-LEO alike) to make them safer gun owners, while HCI and the other gun grabbers do nothing.

By the way, between your name and your signature, I get the feeling you're a sci fi fan. Would that be wrong?
 
Ms. Lockard, what is killing our kids is ignorance (don't more children die in buckets and swimming pools accidently than firearms). An ignorance of firearms that you and your like-minded sheople display and promote and thus creating fertile ground for accidents to occur.

The purpose was not safety? Who do you think is teaching people, including your beloved governmental agents, how to handle firearms effectively? Howard Metzenbaum? Sarah Brady? DiFi?:rolleyes:
 
Wade's Range is quite possibly the WORST range I've ever, ever been to. The "members" there are not only the most horrible marskmen (but don't tell them) I've ever met, but they honestly think they're neo-cowboys....posing in Hollywood-style poses as they "pop caps" in the targets.

From ill-trained redneck kids with horrible safety practices, to punk Bellevue rich-kids with nice guns and no training, to immigrants who can barely speak English (yet somehow own guns?), I've seen them all at Wades.

Add to that the fact that the folks over in the adjoined gunshop are absolute pricks (except for one guy), and Wade's is the last place I'll ever go for anything. Their guns are WAY overpriced ($600 for a Glock 19), their facility is a hazzard, their employees are morons.

Rather, I shoot at WSI. While some of the members are rather elitist, at least they've got decent gun-handling knowledge and the staff keep the area very safe. Nice folks in the shop, also.

No, this isn't a plug.


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Since 1997, Wade's has been the site of two accidental shootings — one of them fatal — and three suicides involving guns.

Store manager John Clarke said the store no longer allows people who are alone to rent guns and asks new patrons how experienced they are.


So, lemme get this straight, on 3 occassions, people have come, rented guns, stepped out on the the range, and KILLED THEMSELVES? :what:

I've never heard of anything like that. Is it true?
 
Yes, it's true. Now, when you go to a public range in the Seattle area you are asked to recite the rules of gun safety ( at least the top 3) and you must have either 1) a CCW, 2) your own gun, or 3) a friend with you. I was told that they hoped that this would reduce the likelihood of such events happening again. Hope so.
 
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