Pepper Spray for Bear ??

[spclpatrolgroup]

This mama was about 50 feet away from my cousin who took the picture, luckily he was next to his car. He was looking through the camera lense and didnt notice how cloes it got

 

[spclpatrolgroup]

This guy was walking down the road when we were walking back to the car. I generally carry a rifle when I go into the woods. Ive had bear spray, but I never want to have it be blown back in my face and get maced with a bear around

 

[Sav .250]

I sure hope that is not your ......last line of defense....

 

[j2crows]

While living in Wyoming I had the opportunity to hunt North of Jackson Hole several times during bow season for elk. Never saw a grizzly, only their tracks and droppings. I always carried bear spray. Can't really say they were relaxing hunts!! I always thought to myself...An arrow and a can against a charging bear!!!!!

 

[grubbylabs]

We had a northern Idaho man shoot a grizzly in his yard and he really thought his kids were endanger. The only reason he got away with a 1,000 dollar fin is because our governor put pressure on the U.S. fish and wild life service and our local papers gave it a lot of press. He had a real reason for shooting the bear, he could not account for his children and had a sow and cub walking his yard where his children were last seen by him playing.

Think of the nightmare of defending yourself against a bear shooting in the woods. the only way I see it ending well is if you have it on film and it is clearly a defense of life situation.

Even then be ready for a long and miserable ride.

Spray sends you both away without the obligatory rectal exam by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife service. Plus you are more likely to survive.

 

[RinkRat]

A few years ago I was strolling down a path in the mountain tops of Tennessee with my best half and as I stepped off the path to hug a tree just as I started to water that said tree I heard screaming echoing throughout the woods and recognized it as my wif's

Next thing I knew she had jumped on my back stammering that a big black bear was haling booty down the trail and ran right past her as she stepped out of its way

We didn't have any spray < the local store was out ... We didn't have a firearm < it was before you were allowed to carry in the National Pk's ... All we had was our dumba$$-luck with us that day

So we got lucky huh and it just goes to show you never know what the beasts of nature got on their minds at the time of your encounter

 

[sourdough44]

The good thing about spray is the threshold for using it is lower. If the bear is in spray range, he gets it. Don't compare real bearspray with a small container of personal protection pepper spray.

 

[Ankeny]

UDAP is popular around here. Guess I should add around here is in grizzly bear management areas.

 

[PolymathPioneer]

UDAP would be fine. Often, brands keep 2 or 3 years. You can depend on them, but wind can always be a factor. Watch any videos you can find, if they exist, read up on it. They spray a good ways and there are methods on how to spray multiple times, if possible, during an encounter. Just research stuff.

A large black bear attempted to break into our house in New Mexico at 3:30 am when we lived there several years ago, (its color was actually blonde brown, i.e. they come in many colors not just black). I exited the house from the back to confront the bear who was in the front trying to break in. I sprayed a 50 ounce can of this stuff at the bear and it took off like lightning and never came back. I could hear it in the woods in the dark rolling around trying to get the spray off. A game warden came the next day and setup a drum trap and baited it but no bear ever came near the place after that night. The only problem is that the spray backs up on you and seems to be heavier than the air and sinks to the ground so once you spray it, get out of the area unless you want to feel somewhat like the bear you just sprayed from the persistent vapor. Unless you also carry a firearm with you for bear, I would also discard the can after one year for a new one. One last point is that this stuff will work on virtually anything. A friend of mine in Florida was having problems with a raccoon killing chickens that he kept. I told him to get a small can of this stuff and spray the raccoon. He did and the raccoon never came back, (again my friend had the stuff back up on him, its very unpleasant because its like a gas not a stream). Living in Montana in the wilderness we have lots of wildlife including moose, black bear, griz and wolves. When I am out on our property I carry a custom stainless Super Blackhawk with a 4 5/8 inch barrel with +P+ Buffalo Bore 340 grain 44 mag ammo (i.e. it is reinforced for the BB rounds) in addition to a small can of the UDAP spray in a holster. The reason for carrying both is more for elk season. If quartering an elk and a bear "attacks" I will use my 375 H&H if I can reach it and the Ruger if I can't. This is because I don't want to get the spray on the harvested elk, which I am quartering. If hunting and I meet an aggressive or inquisitive bear (unless I have bear tags) and it can't be avoided I use the spray.

 

[PolymathPioneer]

Ya but you need to think of the bear as a bear, not a person.

It's not so easy to just shoot and stop a bear. If anything it can anger them more. Whereas they don't understand why they suddenly can't breathe, when sprayed, and it discourages them, rather than enrages.

I disagree. Black bear drop like a rock when shot (we are not talking about cape buffalo) and in Montana it is legal to protect yourself from griz, i.e. if a griz attacks my 375 H&H (or 458) will flatten it. I also carry a custom Ruger Super Blackhawk with a 4 5/8 inch barrel reinforced to withstand the Buffalo Bore +P+ 44 mag 340 grain bullets it is stoked with for backup, i.e. a handgun is for when you forgot your rifle IMO LOL. I use UDAP bear spray first depending on terrain and wind. I've used it successfully before and know what to expect and what the spray does once you use it. Although I am not a bow hunter, most of my friends are and they take black bear all the time with a bow and not from a stand, although they do that too (none are afraid of black bear here). It is my experience in Montana (unless you are in condition white land of Yellow Stone or Glacier), that black bear will leave fast if they see you since they don't want to get killed, i.e. they know what bear season is here. We live in the wilderness and have never had a black bear ever come close to the house or molest the garbage containers outside, i.e. they are not stupid. Away from the house a quarter mile on our property there is plenty of bear scat. Just as a wolf knows what a gun is, bears keep away from our house here. This is not true in places where you can't defend yourself from bear. In New Mexico where I lived they mess with people big time, (as I already detailed in another post on this same thread when a black bear tried to break into my NM house).

 

[WTBguns10kOK]

A large black bear attempted to break into our house in New Mexico at 3:30 am when we lived there several years ago, (its color was actually blonde brown, i.e. they come in many colors not just black). I exited the house from the back to confront the bear who was in the front trying to break in. I sprayed a 50 ounce can of this stuff at the bear and it took off like lightning and never came back. I could hear it in the woods in the dark rolling around trying to get the spray off. A game warden came the next day and setup a drum trap and baited it but no bear ever came near the place after that night. The only problem is that the spray backs up on you and seems to be heavier than the air and sinks to the ground so once you spray it, get out of the area unless you want to feel somewhat like the bear you just sprayed from the persistent vapor. Unless you also carry a firearm with you for bear, I would also discard the can after one year for a new one. One last point is that this stuff will work on virtually anything. A friend of mine in Florida was having problems with a raccoon killing chickens that he kept. I told him to get a small can of this stuff and spray the raccoon. He did and the raccoon never came back, (again my friend had the stuff back up on him, its very unpleasant because its like a gas not a stream). Living in Montana in the wilderness we have lots of wildlife including moose, black bear, griz and wolves. When I am out on our property I carry a custom stainless Super Blackhawk with a 4 5/8 inch barrel with +P+ Buffalo Bore 340 grain 44 mag ammo (i.e. it is reinforced for the BB rounds) in addition to a small can of the UDAP spray in a holster. The reason for carrying both is more for elk season. If quartering an elk and a bear "attacks" I will use my 375 H&H if I can reach it and the Ruger if I can't. This is because I don't want to get the spray on the harvested elk, which I am quartering. If hunting and I meet an aggressive or inquisitive bear (unless I have bear tags) and it can't be avoided I use the spray. I disagree. Black bear drop like a rock when shot (we are not talking about cape buffalo) and in Montana it is legal to protect yourself from griz, i.e. if a griz attacks my 375 H&H will flatten it. I would use UDAP bear spray first depending on terrain and wind. I've used it successfully before and know what to expect and what the spray does once you use it. Although I am not a bow hunter, most of my friends are and they take black bear all the time with a bow and not from a stand, although they do that too (none are afraid of black bear here). It is my experience in Montana (unless you are in condition white land of Yellow Stone or Glacier), that black bear will leave fast if they see you since they don't want to get killed, i.e. they know what bear season is here. We live in the wilderness and have never had a black bear ever come close to the house or molest the garbage containers outside, i.e. they are not stupid. Away from the house about a mile on our property there is plenty of bear scat. Just as a wolf knows what a gun is, bears keep away from our house here. This is not true in places where you can't defend yourself from bear. In New Mexico where I lived they mess with people big time. As I detailed in another post on this thread, this happened to me and bear spray drove it off.

Paragraph separations, my good man.

Thank you for the explanation of black bear color phases and what is legal in MT to do to a bear. Perhaps, direct your education at the OP next time. Also, where may I buy a 50 ounce can of bear spray? Would def. make me feel safer when hiking.

 

[PolymathPioneer]

Paragraph separations, my good man.

Thank you for the explanation of black bear color phases and what is legal in MT to do to a bear. Perhaps, direct your education at the OP next time. Also, where may I buy a 50 ounce can of bear spray? Would def. make me feel safer when hiking.

Sorry, I was responding generally to the thread, wasn't focusing on you. I got carried away since I have lots of bear adventures including one unusual experience where I kicked a black bear that was messing with my dog. My boot had goo on it from where I kicked the bear (no joke for real) and the game warden said that not only would that bear not ever come back, it would tell its friends to never come back LOL. You can get bear spray from UDAP (http://www.udap.com/) also in bear country they have it at wholesale sports and other such places. Make sure you get a holster to go with it too. Its best to spray it in the face of the bear but they don't like the sound or the smell so if you hit the backend of the bear with the spray it will do the job on black bear (from personal experience, I used it successfully at both ends of bear). Note that if you buy the spray over the Internet, it cannot be shipped by air, only by ground. So make sure you take ground shipping into consideration if you need it quick. Finally, if you use it on a bear, UDAP will replace the can for free.

 

[WTBguns10kOK]

Sorry, I was responding generally to the thread, wasn't focusing on you. I got carried away since I have lots of bear adventures including one unusual experience where I kicked a black bear that was messing with my dog. My boot had goo on it from where I kicked the bear (no joke for real) and the game warden said that not only would that bear not ever come back, it would tell its friends to never come back LOL. You can get bear spray from UDAP (http://www.udap.com/) also in bear country they have it at wholesale sports and other such places. Make sure you get a holster to go with it too. Its best to spray it in the face of the bear but they don't like the sound or the smell so if you hit the backend of the bear with the spray it will do the job on black bear (from personal experience, I used it successfully at both ends of bear).

Well, I don't think we're quite on the same page, so take it easy, brah.

 

[PolymathPioneer]

Well, I don't think we're quite on the same page, so take it easy, brah.

WTBguns10kOK: wow, I just saw what I did posting to your quotes LOL. Sorry about that. Guess I was just writing up a storm there for a bit. It won't happen again, I will take note of what button I press next time, just got carried away. You must have felt, like you were crossing a street and suddenly, from nowhere water dumped down on you from above.

 

[RinkRat]

this is what you need

http://www.hiking-camping-blog.com/is-wasp-spray-better-than-bear-spray/

 

[caribou]

Mmmmmmmmmm Bear with Pepper...........



Spry would be cool, prehaps with salt?

I carry a rifle for Bears, you cant kill them with spray from 100 yards, if someone else need you to do that. Lots of guys come home to Bears, often in the cache,or near by the meats..

I use pepper spray on stupid Drunks.........gets their attention, often correcting additudes almost instantly, often with gasped and choked apologies, as mucus streams from their nearly blind eyes, they still find the door.