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Can’t go wrong with a 30-06.Tried: .223, 7.62X39, 7 MM Magnum, .303 British and .30/06. Settled 0n the Browning BAR in .30/06. Son likes the Browning .30/06 A-Bolt. We get Deer every years
Can’t go wrong with a 30-06.Tried: .223, 7.62X39, 7 MM Magnum, .303 British and .30/06. Settled 0n the Browning BAR in .30/06. Son likes the Browning .30/06 A-Bolt. We get Deer every years
You know what I meant. Recoil of the same energy is perceived differently by different shooters. So I should have said felt recoil is subjective.Only if not quantified. “Hot” is subjective, “boiling“ are actual temperatures for a number of different things.
“Kicks like a mule“ depends on the size of the mule. “Equal and opposite“, is more what we are looking at.
On that 100-acre plot I hunted from about 1998-2008, I frequently would carry one rifle to hunt the stands overlooking fields, and a lighter, handier rifle or a shotgun with slugs to stalk through the woods in the afternoons.
They probably dont feel the need to deal with recoil or weight they dont enjoy, especially for no practical reason.
Add that the only concept of recoil some have is based on AR based platforms running 223/556… I know people that talk about how hard a 25-06 model 70 sporter kicks… and yup there is recoil! But try an old school belted mag and see the difference. Haha.They probably dont feel the need to deal with recoil or weight they dont enjoy, especially for no practical reason.
Yeah. I think a mild caliber like 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, 7.62x39mm, .300 BO, or .243 are good beginner choices. I think .223 and .22 Magnum (where legal) are too marginal for a brand-new shooter.Add that the only concept of recoil some have is based on AR based platforms running 223/556… I know people that talk about how hard a 25-06 model 70 sporter kicks… and yup there is recoil! But try an old school belted mag and see the difference. Haha.
That’s another part of the equation: the perfect rifle? Recoil? Probably better to start a beginner out on something that won’t shake their teeth out and momentarily interrupt the earths rotation!
Nice. I'm guessing that recoils a bit less than .35 Whelen? (Not that I really remember the recoil of my 7600, so it can't be too bad.) I do know some people complain that it (Whelen) recoils excessively for the return. My buddy Matt Guest has been threatening to load up some 357 bullets for a light/ close range load for me for years. I was shooting such a load out of his Whelen, when we took these pics 19 years ago. Looks like a bit over MOA, not bad for open sights@JShirley
I chose oatmeal, cause my day can't start without some maple and brown sugar......
Anyway, to the topic. One Gun was what motivated me to build the 338-06. I wanted that one do all rifle for North America. Not that there aren't a bunch of others that could fall in that category, but with the choice of 338 bullets out there in abundance, and much lighter recoil than the magnums, my "Yahtzee Six" fills the bill perfectly.
Which reminds me.....after today's bowl I'm out of oatmeal.....looks like grocery store after shift today
Not having ever fired a Whelen, I would imagine that their really wouldn't be too much more(or less) recoil between the 2. And both much lighter than 338, 350, 375 Magnums.Nice. I'm guessing that recoils a bit less than .35 Whelen? (Not that I really remember the recoil of my 7600, so it can't be too bad.) I do know some people complain that it (Whelen) recoils excessively for the return. My buddy Matt Guest has been threatening to load up some 357 bullets for a light/ close range load for me for years. I was shooting such a load out of his Whelen, when we took these pics 19 years ago. Looks like a bit over MOA, not bad for open sights
a 9 or 10 lb .30-06 doesn't have much recoil. That's kind of my point. A lighter gun, especially in a magnum caliber, does. also, lightweight shotguns, especially with heavy shells, kick like the dickens.
I certainly agree. My recoil tolerance has gone down considerably as I've gotten older. It is one of the main factors to consider when 1 decides to go after that "do all" rifle. At least in my opinion anywayRecoil is very subjective even if we can put exact engineering numbers and measurements on the recoil impulse, free recoil energy, etc. You can take a particular rifle and ammunition and for one shooter they find it pleasant and another shooter finds that exact same setup unpleasant. That could be due to fit of the rifle to the shooter and/or just the recoil tolerance of the individual shooter. Recoil tolerance is a very real thing. Recoil tolerance is also something that can be work up to being able to handle heavier and heavier recoiling rifles through a combination of learned and practice techniques and simply your body adapting to recoil over time just like going to the gym to get stronger.
Even if you quantify it there are other variables that make it subjective.Only if not quantified. “Hot” is subjective, “boiling“ are actual temperatures for a number of different things.
Even if you quantify it there are other variables that make it subjective.
Is it water boiling hot or nitrogen boiling hot?
At what altitude are we boiling the water?