I have defended these pistols since they came out, offering advise help etc whenever possible. I find that after e-thinking this, along with my own experiences with the gun, I can no longer consider this an acceptable weapon for anything but teaching students on what not to do when making a firearm.
As we all know, the Ktog forum, has more "fixes" for more "problems" than any other gun I have ever seen.
Mine functioned the 2 or 3 times I fired it with 115 remington JHP's.
Last time out I was shooting 3 different 9's and got the ammo mixed up. The gun was useless. I know someone will say "you can't shoot 147 grain rounds in some of them I didn't realize that I did that at the time, but after inspection, I saw it. I put back the 115's and it ran a mag and FTF' again. did a tap slap, it fired. I took it home and looked at it carefully. I had by the way radiused, beveled the side of the mag so it didn't have to be put in using the mag release each time, "it's on their forum". That had nothing to do with it, the hammer block is actually in the way of the feeding ramp. on the very edge, which throws off the angle that the mag enters the well.
That's enough with this thing already, stay away, 5 years and it's something different every time. I have a lot of guns and this is the only one that they made this poorlly, thank goodness I have no other Kel-tecs. Most shooter say 'well what did you expect"? I guess I expected a gun that was engineered before it went into production, not something that you throw out there and let the shooting community fix fo you.
If you are carrying this as a primary, "i never did", DONT, if it's for screwing around, that's fine. Or if you just like to fix things. But if you are leo and this is your Bug, even if you never had a problem with it, "i hadn't", it can stop at any moment. If it dosen't like the ammo, or the hammer block hit's the rim or whatever, it ain't worth your life playing with this ,"do it yourself" pistol.
People buy them because they are small, and cheap. I would pay another hundred for one that was better thought out.
Now I feel that if they did it with this gun, I can never in good faith own a Keltec again.
In comparison my ruger is a work of art, and my glocks the Mona Lisa. This is Andy warhol. And that's beng nice, I would stay away from that new shotgun also, it looks like it's going to be a problem just from looking at the prototypes and drawings.I think their 380 and the first one in 9, the p11, were better thought out, as we know ruger copied the little one, but I have seen 3 firing pins snap at the range with the p11's and that's enough, plus you can't dry fir the gun unless you use snap caps. I use a pencil with an erasor, but I'm done with it. My time is worth more than that bean shooter.
As we all know, the Ktog forum, has more "fixes" for more "problems" than any other gun I have ever seen.
Mine functioned the 2 or 3 times I fired it with 115 remington JHP's.
Last time out I was shooting 3 different 9's and got the ammo mixed up. The gun was useless. I know someone will say "you can't shoot 147 grain rounds in some of them I didn't realize that I did that at the time, but after inspection, I saw it. I put back the 115's and it ran a mag and FTF' again. did a tap slap, it fired. I took it home and looked at it carefully. I had by the way radiused, beveled the side of the mag so it didn't have to be put in using the mag release each time, "it's on their forum". That had nothing to do with it, the hammer block is actually in the way of the feeding ramp. on the very edge, which throws off the angle that the mag enters the well.
That's enough with this thing already, stay away, 5 years and it's something different every time. I have a lot of guns and this is the only one that they made this poorlly, thank goodness I have no other Kel-tecs. Most shooter say 'well what did you expect"? I guess I expected a gun that was engineered before it went into production, not something that you throw out there and let the shooting community fix fo you.
If you are carrying this as a primary, "i never did", DONT, if it's for screwing around, that's fine. Or if you just like to fix things. But if you are leo and this is your Bug, even if you never had a problem with it, "i hadn't", it can stop at any moment. If it dosen't like the ammo, or the hammer block hit's the rim or whatever, it ain't worth your life playing with this ,"do it yourself" pistol.
People buy them because they are small, and cheap. I would pay another hundred for one that was better thought out.
Now I feel that if they did it with this gun, I can never in good faith own a Keltec again.
In comparison my ruger is a work of art, and my glocks the Mona Lisa. This is Andy warhol. And that's beng nice, I would stay away from that new shotgun also, it looks like it's going to be a problem just from looking at the prototypes and drawings.I think their 380 and the first one in 9, the p11, were better thought out, as we know ruger copied the little one, but I have seen 3 firing pins snap at the range with the p11's and that's enough, plus you can't dry fir the gun unless you use snap caps. I use a pencil with an erasor, but I'm done with it. My time is worth more than that bean shooter.