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Philly Rape and Murder

Would you support a more restrictive standard for bail for violent felony arrests?

  • Yes. It is too easy for violent criminals to get back on the streets.

    Votes: 105 79.5%
  • No, excessive bail is a slippery slope.

    Votes: 20 15.2%
  • I like the system as is.

    Votes: 3 2.3%
  • No opinion.

    Votes: 4 3.0%

  • Total voters
    132
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'You could call it an execution'
By DANA DiFILIPPO
[email protected] 215-854-5934

IT ALL STARTED with a creepy stare from a stranger.

An 18-year-old woman waiting at a Fern Rock bus stop late Wednesday got nervous enough about that leer that she fled across the street.

But the thug followed, and within minutes, a tragedy exploded that left two Good Samaritans in the morgue, the teenager in the hospital, a murderous rapist in jail and three shattered families in agonizing heartache.

The violence began shortly before midnight near 10th Street and Olney Avenue with the teenager's desperate flight from her perverted pursuer.

The man, whom police identified yesterday as Kevin White, 28, of Fairhill Street near Luzerne, Fern Rock, pounced on the girl in a nearby alley, flashed a .45-caliber semi-automatic handgun and demanded her money, said Chief of Detectives Joseph Fox.

The teen had no money, so her depraved assailant dragged her into the dark, secluded walkway behind Anthony Burno's rowhouse, where he began raping her, Fox said.

Just then, Burno and his girlfriend, Kira Derrick, 29, arrived home after a night out, Fox said.

As they parked behind Burno's garage, the rapist hurriedly ordered his victim to put her pants back on and pretend she was his girlfriend until the couple went into Burno's home, Fox said.

But the victim, compliant at first, tore free of her attacker as the couple neared, screamed for help and warned them that her rapist was armed, Fox said.

Before they could respond, the thug began firing, Fox said. He chased the trio into Burno's small, weedy back yard, where he shot the three as they tried to hide, Fox said.

"You could call it an execution," Fox said.

The teen limped to neighbor Terrell Mackey's back door, and began pounding on it and shrieking for help.

"I let her in and called the cops and then went around [the house] to check on everyone to see if they were cool," said Mackey, 18, adding that he had not realized until later the extent of the carnage outside.

Outside, Burno and Derrick lay dying, and their killer had vanished.

But he didn't get far. Police Officers Richard Redanauer and Timothy McGonigle were on routine patrol nearby when they heard a radio call of gunfire, Fox said.

They spotted White sprinting down 11th Street, and collared him after a brief struggle, Fox said. The officers found a handgun shoved in White's waistband, and his victim identified him at the scene as her attacker, he added.

White, free on bail awaiting trial in the sexual assault and beating of his girlfriend's 6-year-old son, now is being held without bail on charges of murder, aggravated assault, rape and related offenses.

The teen was hospitalized with wounds to the leg and arm. She was expected to survive.

Yesterday morning, a dried pool of gore, discarded latex gloves and other medical gear, and police chalk markings indicating where spent bullet casings had fallen, attested to the carnage.

Relatives of Burno, reluctant to witness such graphic evidence of his violent death, huddled in the alley, tearfully remembering him as a carefree man who loved to sing and cook.

Burno, 48, was a chef who started a new job this week - he'd worked only a day - in the student center cafeteria at Temple University and had another culinary job at a Center City restaurant, relatives said.

He had previously worked at a lunch truck outside the Social Security building on Spring Garden Street near 4th, and other restaurants in the city, they said.

Derrick, a mother of two, had been dating Burno for about six months, his relatives said. Her blue Ford Explorer remained parked outside Burno's rowhouse yesterday, with two baby seats, a Dora the Explorer doll, kids' school papers, a toy black Cadillac Escalade and other child-related items strewn in the back.

Derrick did clerical work in the Social Security building and got to know Burno as a lunch-truck regular, Burno's relatives said.

That sounded familiar to Wadiyah Burno, his estranged wife, who met him when she worked for Prudential. She said she had been happily married to him for four years and was separated the last two.

"He used to make my breakfast, lunch and dinner, and bring it to my desk for free," she said.

Yesterday, Burno said she had remained close to her estranged husband and his relatives despite their marital troubles. Her cheeks shone with tears as she remembered Burno's love of singing.

"He sang me down the aisle," she said, smiling as she remembered his tenor version of the Whispers' "I'm Gonna Make You My Wife."

Burno sang so well, he often won cash, show tickets, trophies and other prizes in contests at Sid Booker's club on Broad Street near Belfield Avenue, his estranged wife said.

Gail Graham Burno, 50, his sister-in-law, laughed as she remembered his love of fashionable clothes - including a long 1970s-style, white-fur coat he wore to a New Year's party.

His relatives said he typically worked until 8 p.m., and the couple probably were returning home from a date when they were shot dead.

Kira Derrick's stepfather, Marshall Smith, of Fayetteville, Ga., described her as a "very quiet person. In a crowd, she would be that person standing back in the crowd."

Smith said Kira's main focus was on her children - Tarik, 4, and Taylor, 2.

He said she had put in for a transfer back to the Atlanta area recently because "she didn't have the support" she needed in Philadelphia.

"Her mother [Hazel] is here," Smith said. "They had a very, very close relationship. They talked two or three times every day.

"We knew something was wrong early today [Thursday] when we couldn't get in touch with her. Her mother called the job" and was told Kira hadn't come to work.

They were informed later of what had happened when, he said, "someone else called us who saw it on the news."

Smith said Kira was an only child but had stepbrothers after "we became a family in '91."

Kira grew up in Philadelphia. The family moved to Texas when she was a junior in high school and returned to the Philadelphia area in 1998. She lived for a time in Atlanta and moved back to Philly in 2005.

Denise Severe, owner of Denise's Soul Food, the lunch truck where Burno had worked, said: "He was a good person. He showed up for work on time. He would argue a lot; very argumentative but, overall, a good guy."

Severe said that she couldn't remember when Burno started at the truck but that he left last month.

She said her daughter runs the truck and had to tell the other employees that Burno had been murdered.

Burno's relatives were upset when they learned about White's criminal record.

White was scheduled for an Oct. 2 preliminary hearing on the assault case involving his girlfriend's then-6-year-old child in December 2004, according to court records. He was freed on $5,000 bail, records show.

Authorities said White had been watching his girlfriend's child while she worked. He was unemployed.

White's family couldn't be reached for comment yesterday.

Fox said the crime points to problems in the system, in which serious offenders dodge serious punishment and return to the street to commit new crimes.

"You get the same people back on the street in days or weeks, committing the same crimes time and again," Fox said. He complained that low bail and lax sentencing keep dangerous thugs in the community.

"There's a breakdown in the system. [Judges] need to get their heads out of the sand."
Staff writers Theresa Conroy, Damon Williams and Gloria Campisi contributed to this report.
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/15413908.htm

It is often argued that victims have a duty to retreat. This case shows how wrong they are. After the assailant’s initial crime was interrupted he pursued the Good Samaritans and killed them. Had the victims been armed would they have survived? Perhaps, perhaps not, but they would have had a fighting chance. This is yet another case of a violent criminal on bail committing yet another violent crime. If the government can pose restrictions on the 1st and 2nd Amendments, should we seriously impose restrictions on the 8th Amendment. How many here would support a proposition that would not allow bail for violent felony charges?
 
While the Supreme Court may differ (due to an otherworldly lack of concern), I believe the police should have broad powers to shoot people like that upon apprehension. Sure, they might make a few mistakes and that would be lamentable, but overall I think it would be for the best.
 
"Grandpappy told my pappy...

....back in my day son, a man had to answer for the wicked that he done. Take all the rope in Philly, find a tall oak tree, grab that bad boy, hang'em high in the street"

Loosely adapted from "Beer For My Horses" - but if appropriate for TX, I'm sure it works in PA :evil:
 
I am not a big fan of the Philly DA, but what she says in this article makes sense. The jails are very overcrowded and the lawsuit proposes several ways of getting offenders back on the streets more quickly. The DA disagrees. Here is the article & link.

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/15300123.htm

Jail lawsuit prompts D.A. to act
Lynne M. Abraham says public safety would be at risk if inmates are freed to ease overcrowding.
By Julie Shaw
Inquirer Staff Writer

District Attorney Lynne M. Abraham yesterday announced that she would weigh in on a federal lawsuit filed on behalf of inmates alleging crowded conditions in city prisons.

Abraham said that one of the remedies proposed in the suit - releasing inmates to relieve overcrowding - would endanger public safety.

"The last time prisoners were released by a prison cap order, they unleashed a crime wave on the citizens of Philadelphia," Abraham said in a statement. Her office yesterday filed a motion to intervene: to become a third party to the suit in order to protect its interest - public safety.

The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court late last month, says that because of "severe overcrowding" in Philadelphia's prison system, defendants in custody while awaiting trial "are held in dangerous, unsanitary, severely overcrowded, degrading, and cruel conditions of confinement."

The lawsuit, which identifies four former or current inmates as lead plaintiffs, names as defendants the city, Prison Commissioner Leon A. King II, and Police Commissioner Sylvester M. Johnson. David Rudovsky, the plaintiffs' attorney, yesterday said the suit seeks for prison conditions to be improved and overcrowding eased - even if it means releasing some inmates.

"The crucial point is hundreds of people are being held in inhumane conditions," he said. "Someone on the city side needs to take responsibility."

In the 1980s, the city was sued in federal court by prisoners alleging overcrowded conditions. The city settled by accepting a cap on the prison population, and releasing scores of defendants charged with lesser offenses.

Abraham said that as a result, the number of fugitives nearly tripled, and thousands of them were rearrested for new crimes.
 
"The crucial point is hundreds of people are being held in inhumane conditions," he said. "Someone on the city side needs to take responsibility."
Prison overcrowding is a but a symptom. The root problem is a ponderous, ineffecient judicial system. It's not uncommon for cases, even minor ones, to drag out for months at a time. Capital cases can drag on for years. The crucial point is the judical system moves at a snail's pace because of all the motions, counter-motions, continuances and petitions, creating a backlog of defendants awaiting trial. Perhaps the answer is to limit the amount of motions/legal actions/appeals that can be made by the prosecutors and defense team in order to speed the trial process up. After all, you only get four plays to make a first down

Mike
 
Head in Sand

We in Law Enforcement have been making this argument for many years. The answer is always the same, Prison overcrowding violates the criminals Rights, Excessive Bail violates the criminals Rights, making the prisoners work (to help pay for new and improved facilities) violates the criminals Rights. The list goes on and on.

We LEO's regularily see the same criminals cycling through the system over and over again. Many states have the "3 strike rule" (concerning felons), which seems to mean nothing. Its very frustrating and no one seems to have a realistic solution. Much of the blame (I personally) place on the attornies and judges, who keep getting criminals out through "loop-holes" and ambiguous intrepretations of the laws and constitution.

As long as "liberal minded" individuals and groups continue to stifle the efforts of LEO's to incarcerate criminals (in the name of "Civil Rights"), and the rest of us just sit on our butt's and do not voice our opposition, we will all continue to suffer these atrocities. How bad do we allow it to become before we hold these judges and attornies accountable?
 
How bad do we allow it to become before we hold these judges and attornies accountable?

I agree, the gov't wants to sue gun manufacturers for practices that lead to guns being used illegally, has anyone ever held a city accountable for a criminal justice system that allows a criminal on bail to rape someone and murders two others. I would bet the perp in the philly rape & murder story has been through the system quite a bit.
 
Crime-Specific Prisons

What we need are crime-specific prisons.

A rapist's prison for example, would be for convicted rapists only and would have no cells, just one large solid concrete enclosure with a central floor drain. All the rapists would stay in this one room. No beds or any furniture, nowhere to hide. All prisoners would be naked and every other prisoner would be supplied with one very sharp knife. Any survivors at the end of the day would be transferred to murderers prison.

Murderers prison would be equipped the same as rapists prison, except that every prisoner would have a knife. The lone survivor of murderers prison at the end of the day would be shot.

This would solve the prison overcrowding problem.
 
Civil Rights are a problem? So says a self proclaimed LEO. If Civil Rights go out the Door so does the 2nd Amendment. So I would say to this self proclaimed LEO. If you think Civil Rights are a problem I would suggest resigning from your position and never again work as a LEO.

One problem as I see it is that we lock up a lot of non-violent offenders. Is there another way to handle them outside of jail time. Make prison only for the violent offenders in our society.
 
dragongoddess, he was talking about the 'civil rights' of convicted criminals. Those who have proven themselves unworthy of being free.

The problem is one of definitions. Is putting four men in a cell intendended for two a violation of their 'rights'? Personally, I don't really think so. Might not be optimal, but I've been housed in worse, and I've never been arrested.

How do you define 'excessive bail'? In this case, sure, hindsights 20/20, but at the time, 5k for a child assault? Maybe, maybe not. Then again, I'm sure this guy has quite a record.

Making prisoners work? I'm all for it. Heck, I'm all for not feeding them if they don't work.

One problem as I see it is that we lock up a lot of non-violent offenders. Is there another way to handle them outside of jail time. Make prison only for the violent offenders in our society.

Now this I also agree with. Non-violent offenders can mostly be handled through other means.
 
Well so much for innocent until proved guilty eh?

So when one of you guys uses your CCW in self defense and you get charged with murder or manslaughter (both are violent felonies IIRC) I guess it would be a good thing for you to be locked up until trial without bail ... or have to come up with 6 or 7 figures so you can get out of jail for the 6 months until your trial (you know, so you can go to work so your home isn't foreclosed on while you wait).


The better solution is to leave the bail system alone, but do away with all laws that disarm the populace ... then most of these violent felons who reoffend while out on bail will have to deal with armed victims.


The other problem is that our jails are full of people who's only crime is just being in posession of the "wrong" herb ... not exactly dangerous or evil people here.
 
Civil Rights

Dragongoddess, perhaps you misintrepreted my meaning. Civil Rights are a VERY GOOD thing. It is what separates us from all others, however, (in my opinion) when you are a convicted felon (especially of a violent crime such as Rape or Murder) you are "allegedly" being punished by the court system. If in doing so you have to give up a few "perp's", thats a part of punishment in my mind. I am not referring to essential rights necessary for your health and physical "well being".

If you must house 3 to a cell rather than 2 for a time, well I'm sorry. If you must perform menial manual labor to help pay for your health care and facilities, then so be it. I'm not speaking of torture and abuse, just what the rest of society already does to survive. If one finds these ideas too distasteful or inhumane, well, we will just have to disagree.

I will admit that during 20+ years on the job, it has somewhat jaded my view and I have become more conservative. Until one has done this job for an extended amount of time, I don't believe one has the ability or experience to judge anothers perspective, but then, this is America and we can say what we want, this I've always advocated as a basic Civil Right.
Good Luck
 
Shooting or hanging is too good for this guy. Maybe we could go back to the old English method and have him half-hanged, drawn and quartered in the public square.
 
Well so much for innocent until proved guilty eh?

No one said anything about presuming innocence or guilt. Simply that, these types of people need to be kept off the street and ensured a quick and speedy trial. If I am arrested after a CCW self defense incident, then let my record speak for itself or let me wait until my day in court. I am sure if you we looked into this persons background we would find that he has a long record of serious violations of the law. I know that's an assumption, but most likely an accurate one.

The long and short of it is, I read or hear about these types of situations far too often and something needs to be done to protect innocent people, even if they are sheeple.
 
While the Supreme Court may differ (due to an otherworldly lack of concern), I believe the police should have broad powers to shoot people like that upon apprehension. Sure, they might make a few mistakes and that would be lamentable, but overall I think it would be for the best.

Yeah, the Constitution's just a piece of paper anyway. :rolleyes:

Define "people like that".

Lamentable. Until it's you or yours that receives roadside "justice" and then it's an avoidable tragedy that never should have happened and oh, by the way, does anyone know a good lawyer?
 
Knee-jerk vigilantes

No one said anything about presuming innocence or guilt.

BULL. That is precisely what has been suggested. RTFD:


While the Supreme Court may differ (due to an otherworldly lack of concern), I believe the police should have broad powers to shoot people like that upon apprehension. Sure, they might make a few mistakes and that would be lamentable, but overall I think it would be for the best.

The same mindless "Kill them all, let God sort them out" mentality that makes The Oxbow Incident as relevant now as when it was first written.

Clearly, some here profess loyalty to a certain portion of the Constitution while exhorting defiance and destruction of the others. Note that these same "patriots" blame liberals for the exact same attitude. :barf:
 
No trial--no rights here..........

In the case of a "caught-in-the-act" rapist/murderer, the only viable solution is immediate execution.
No drawn out expensive trial.
No 3-hots and a cot at MY(taxpayer) expense.........filth deserves no mercy.
 
There are times when I wonder which is worse - Criminals or Lawyers.

I know saying that will draw someones :rolleyes: response but our justice system just seems to have way to many lawyers with way to much time on their hands, and very willing to get paid by the hour for dragging out every case they can, by any means they can.

My distress includes the lawyers who seem to be the dominante breed that make up our political system and keep passing law after law to seemingly assure that the breed will not die out.

My point ? The main reason for our justice system being broken is not nearly so much the responsibilty of the criminal as it is the lawyers & politicians. (mostly the same breed as pointed out) Criminal behavior is by no means punished proportionate to the crime in my opinion.

At the end of the process - even if White is found guilty, he will have a warm dry place to sleep & live, three meals a day, and good medical care for at least the next 20 years. Taxpayers will pick up the $35,000 to $50,000 per year tab to keep him comfortable, as well as pay the $10's to $100's of thousands to lawyers to run through the appeals process.

While I firmly believe in due process - I don't believe for a NY second it needs to take the kind of course it does today.
 
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