Pic of Rugers new Kp345 45acp

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Found this on Rugers web site. Says its thinner and lighter than the current P97. Has a new polymer frame with or without rails, and will be available 1st of May. I think it looks like an improvement and might just be interested.................
 
8 round capacity is what it said, so I suppose that would be 8 plus 1 so you could carry with 9. It is on their web site, but I had to look around. It could be under news, but I honestly can't remember.
 
I had a P97 that I enjoyed shooting. The trigger was nothing special, but the gun always worked. I sold mine to a relative, and might just be interested in one of those.
 
Looks pretty good. It is good to see Ruger doing further development in the P-series. I've always liked them.

The only thing I could do without in this new model is the magazine disconnect. Blah!
 
It STILL looks like it should be painted white/orange say U-HAUL on the slide and have a tow hitch in the back.:neener:
 
Yeah, they've announced a new Mk III, as well as a Mk III 22/45. That's an odd-looking little gun, but the new Mk III looks pretty tempting with its bull barrel and standard Weaver rail.
 
Yeah, they've announced a new Mk III, as well as a Mk III 22/45. That's an odd-looking little gun, but the new Mk III looks pretty tempting with its bull barrel and standard Weaver rail.

They are putting a mag disconnect and internal lock in the new MKIII as in the KP345. I guess all gun companys are heading in this direction.
 
Very interesting... and I just bought a 22/45 in February! :)

However, I sure hope someone points out to Ruger that the Walther P22 has a loaded chamber indicator, so they're incorrect when they say theirs is the first.
 
I was just cleaning a couple of the guns I decided not to take with me to the range this morning, both of which are new this year and both of which have the internal lock. I have never once moved this lock from the "fire" to the "safe" setting, but while I don't use it, it has never caused me any problems. I hate that it symbolizes the intrusion of the nanny state, but for all practical purposes the lock has no effect on my use of the gun. My oldest son and his fiance are going to try to have a child as soon as they get married this summer, which will make me a grandpa. It will also mean I'll have to take my safe gun storage procedures up a notch. Who knows? I may even use the internal locks on guns that have them as an added measure of safety.
 
If Ruger can make a gun that looks like that, and make it smaller, I might have to add another Ruger back into my collection...

As for the lock....

As a father of a young child, I perfer guns with them.... I almost did not buy my DW because it did not have one....
 
I had a P90 and liked it. I shouldn't have sold it. I may just buy one of these to atone for that mistake.

Chris
 
Tragically, they've added a magazine disconnect safety... :barf:

Why, oh WHY, did they go this route? I won't use a S&W autopistol because of this, and now Ruger have gone and copied them! I'm afraid that I'll probably have to put Ruger pistols on my "do not buy" list, particularly if they extend the concept to the rest of their line.

If I can't shoot the round in the chamber if and when I need to (e.g. while changing mags in a firefight), I won't carry the gun. Period.
 
Preacherman stated:

If I can't shoot the round in the chamber if and when I need to (e.g. while changing mags in a firefight), I won't carry the gun. Period.


What do you think has the higher probability:

A. Multiple Magazine Firefight?

B. Someone trying to wrestle your gun from you?

take you pick and plan accordingly..... I personally would rather have the mag disconnect (as many LE's I know do and many PD's require of all sidearms in Illinois).
 
guys I just talked to the owner of a large gun shop in Dallas. He sis some chekcing for me and in typical Ruger fashion, it may be 18 months before these hit the market for sale. I hope I am wrong but in our phone conversation, the owner pointed out examples from the past on how Ruger makes a press release and then the product is available several months later.
 
may be 18 months before these hit the market for sale.

I go with what the press release says: May, 2004.

As for the mag disconnect, there may be the option to remove it, like the Browning HiPower. I've removed one from a HiPower clone that had a trigger like sandpaper. It remains in place on my MK III as it doesn't seem to affect the trigger other than it's intended purpose.

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Mike
 
Mike:

The dealer I talked with is large volume. He pointed out that Ruger is always very late on delivery like with the side by side shotgun. He called all the master distributors that sell for Ruger and none of them have plans to deliver the 345 in May of this year. I was prepared to buy one up front, sight unseen. He gets frustrated since Browning, Beretta, Sig and Glock will sell him direct but he has to go through someone like Lipsey's. Daividson's or Sports South for Ruger. To give you an example of this guy's clout, he bought 200 Beretta AL390 NWTF versions when Beretta was phasing in the AL391.
 
I have to admit that I like the looks of this pistol. The frame contours look to be a big improvement on Ruger's current polymer offerings. I am curious about the rear sight, though. From the side, it looks like it might be an Ashley Express rear sight. If not, at least Ruger has knocked the sharp edges off of their normal rear sight.

Mag disconnect? I can live with it or work around it. Internal lock? Ignor it.
 
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