DRZinn
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If all the airlines decided not to allow firearms aboard their planes, then that would be a valid point. Since that is not the case, it isn't. Government coercion has taken that decision out of the airlines' control.
Pistol Magazine at the airport....oops
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larry_minn
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Thing is TSA is a BAD JOKE> Ihad to fly again. (delivered a truck to CO so needed to get home) Worse part is I had to fly thru Chicago. So I left my gun in CO. 
I made it thru metal detector and was told to get my bag when the thing BEEPED. (good 4 seconds after I went thru) So lady says "please go back again" The guy says "you have SHOES ON!!!" "you MUST remove them" I reply "no thanks" and go into corral.
The idiot does NOT know how to use a wand and finally realizes it is broke. He moves it in air and it BEEPS. (after checking my wrist/forarm with SHORT SLEEVE SHIRT 5 times. ) He even palpates the skin. (yep its fake I cut my arm off to instal a gattling gun) After all this crap he swabs my shoes and gusss what (THEY TEST POSITIVE So I need to go back and take them off. "No thanks you can take them thru if you want" He of course must get his gloves again. (same gloves he used all day on hundreds of people) Walks back holding them at arms length (I did warn him I was NOT responsible for any oders)
After going thru I put my stuff back on for flight.
I made it thru metal detector and was told to get my bag when the thing BEEPED. (good 4 seconds after I went thru) So lady says "please go back again" The guy says "you have SHOES ON!!!" "you MUST remove them" I reply "no thanks" and go into corral.
The idiot does NOT know how to use a wand and finally realizes it is broke. He moves it in air and it BEEPS. (after checking my wrist/forarm with SHORT SLEEVE SHIRT 5 times. ) He even palpates the skin. (yep its fake I cut my arm off to instal a gattling gun) After all this crap he swabs my shoes and gusss what (THEY TEST POSITIVE So I need to go back and take them off. "No thanks you can take them thru if you want" He of course must get his gloves again. (same gloves he used all day on hundreds of people)
Walks back holding them at arms length (I did warn him I was NOT responsible for any oders) After going thru I put my stuff back on for flight.
22-rimfire
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About 10 years years back, I some how forgot that I had left a little switch blade (Itallian stilleto) in my brief case as I went through airport security. I had tried to sell it to some acquaintances on a prior trip and completely forgot about it. Still have the dang cheap thing. (Needless to say, it had made a couple of trips through xray before anyone discovered it.) It was still in the box and had fallen behind the fabric at the hinges in the brief case.... security found it. oops! I had to put it in my checked luggage... actually checked in my briefcase as luggage. My brief case was an airport security person's nightmare as it was crammed full of things like calculators, chargers, and all kinds of odds and ends. Those wrapped wires from the chargers might lead someone to think it was something other than a charger.
Even more years prior to that, I routinely took along a 22 revolver when I went back to visit family to plink and so forth. I never wanted to declare it as I was afraid it would be stolen and just tucked it into my luggage unloaded.... many trips like that. I would never even try such a thing now... I was younger then and they xray luggage too now.
9/11 has changed things. I always carried a swiss army knife ("tinker" usually) in my pocket through airport security. I frequently didn't even take it out my pocket and put it in the tray... those days are over. Steel shanks in hiking boots always did a number on the metal detector walk through thing too. Now you take off your shoes.
My latest swiss army knife is the "locksmith"... big knife, but I really like it! It is certainly a knife to be used. Even has the tooth pick and tweezers. Sorry for diverging from the topic.
Even more years prior to that, I routinely took along a 22 revolver when I went back to visit family to plink and so forth. I never wanted to declare it as I was afraid it would be stolen and just tucked it into my luggage unloaded.... many trips like that. I would never even try such a thing now... I was younger then and they xray luggage too now.
9/11 has changed things. I always carried a swiss army knife ("tinker" usually) in my pocket through airport security. I frequently didn't even take it out my pocket and put it in the tray... those days are over. Steel shanks in hiking boots always did a number on the metal detector walk through thing too. Now you take off your shoes.
My latest swiss army knife is the "locksmith"... big knife, but I really like it! It is certainly a knife to be used. Even has the tooth pick and tweezers. Sorry for diverging from the topic.
DontBurnMyFlag
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one time I was at the baggage check line at the airport. In my wallet, I had a .223 bullet. NOT the cartridge with the shell, just the bullet. It was a little trinket I got when I was young.
They told me they had to confiscate it because it was prohibited.
Seriously, if these people knew the science behind ammo, explosives and guns, there would be a lot less trouble at airports.
They told me they had to confiscate it because it was prohibited.
Seriously, if these people knew the science behind ammo, explosives and guns, there would be a lot less trouble at airports.
cracked butt
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That or wait until one of the airport security people leave their sidearm on top of the toilet or on the wash room sink in the secure area. Remember, they are from the government so logically they have to be more competent than the rest of us
cracked butt
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Then again, if they let you bring a bullet on board, another guy might be allowed to bring a Lee loader on another flight, while another guy gets on a flight with a piece of primed brass, and another guy is allowed to bring on a baggy of smokeless powder and you all meet at the Atlanta airport......
Argh - this reminds me of my first trip out of Kuwait Airport. I'd packed what I'd thought was all my military-type kit into my checked baggage - but forgot that I had a very nice Gerber Legend MultiPlier and CRKT folder in my carry-on pack. Man, those Kuwaiti guards must go to some school where smiles are outlawed - but I guess I deserved that.
DRZinn
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Why?
Lone_Gunman
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Stories like this remind me why I voted for Bush.
He is doing everything in his power to keep us safe, we should just cooperate.
He is doing everything in his power to keep us safe, we should just cooperate.
DRZinn
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Bah.
Don't accept the guilt when the real guilt lies in the decision that air travel requires suspension of your rights.
Gordon Fink
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It may have taken me a while to actually put my finger on it, but I eventually realized that I have always hated being treated like a criminal.
~G. Fink
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A couple of points.
1. We were warned many years ago about giving up liberties for a perceived sense of safety and despite the warning many in this country are bound and determined to do it anyway.
2. 90% or more of the people living in the US are sheep. They've handed the responsibility for their personal protection over to law enforcement. They don't own guns, are afraid of guns and anyone who even has a gun part and does not have a uniform MUST be a wolf, and wolves are to be feared. Since the TSA people themselves are sheep whenever they see a gun or gun part they do what sheep do best, run in circles and bleat loudly for Momma.
As the mistake in #1 becomes greater and greater, the sheeps fear of wolves (perceived or real) will also become greater and greater. Since they can't protect themselves they don't want to see guns in the hands of anyone without a uniform or government credentials. Their fear is already bordering on phobia, what will they do as it grows even greater?
1. We were warned many years ago about giving up liberties for a perceived sense of safety and despite the warning many in this country are bound and determined to do it anyway.
2. 90% or more of the people living in the US are sheep. They've handed the responsibility for their personal protection over to law enforcement. They don't own guns, are afraid of guns and anyone who even has a gun part and does not have a uniform MUST be a wolf, and wolves are to be feared. Since the TSA people themselves are sheep whenever they see a gun or gun part they do what sheep do best, run in circles and bleat loudly for Momma.
As the mistake in #1 becomes greater and greater, the sheeps fear of wolves (perceived or real) will also become greater and greater. Since they can't protect themselves they don't want to see guns in the hands of anyone without a uniform or government credentials. Their fear is already bordering on phobia, what will they do as it grows even greater?
BigFatKen
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common names
http://archives.californiaaviation.org/airport/msg26610.html
I know this guy. He used to be a nice guy. I know he liked to collect big S&Ws. He was the truck manager at Nelson Bros. Pontiac, Brookfield, WI.
Hhmm, it MAY be someone else, however. I visited Duluth, MN once. I was bored sitting in a bank manager's office. So I opened the phonebook and tried to see if the Viking's kicker was listed. Yes, John Anderson was listed 27 times. There were five pages of Andersons.
http://archives.californiaaviation.org/airport/msg26610.html
I know this guy. He used to be a nice guy. I know he liked to collect big S&Ws. He was the truck manager at Nelson Bros. Pontiac, Brookfield, WI.
Hhmm, it MAY be someone else, however. I visited Duluth, MN once. I was bored sitting in a bank manager's office. So I opened the phonebook and tried to see if the Viking's kicker was listed. Yes, John Anderson was listed 27 times. There were five pages of Andersons.
Erebus
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I prefer aluminum bats. I don't wanna get shot 40 times by people who close their eyes and empty the gun trying to hit a terrorist. That and how many of these people will know enough to not fire in the direction of the cockpit. If you think guns would be a great deterent to hijacking watch the end of Casino.
SMMAssociates
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I flew from CLE to DFW last week, and back to CLE on Monday.
The folks at CLE were really good about the CS45 in the big suitcase....
Luggage handling and the rent-a-car agency at DFW was a PITA (no carts).
Coming back though, two problems.
The countergal at DFW almost forgot the declaration tag (whee!) and then didn't know where they were when I reminded her. Nice about it, though.
However, when I got home and opened the case, I noticed a TSA "note" in the bag. They'd opened it....
I really don't appreciate that, but between the gun, fifty hollow points, and a bunch of electronic goodies (wall warts for my PDA, Camera, and cellphone), I'm not too surprised.
However, I had packed the ammunition in a "factory" box, secured it with a rubber band, and put a plastic bag around the whole mess just in case something wandered out of the box.
The TSA employee just tossed the ammunition back into the suitcase without "re-assembling" the packaging.... Checking the bag through at another airport may have been a problem due to "loose" ammunition. Wasn't any, but....
Could have been worse.... I took the CS45 'cause it's one that I really don't care about. I'd rather have the insurance money .
Ezekiel doesn't seem to understand the pressurization issue, and I kind of like "arm the passengers", but the proper response likely is to simply let those with the appropriate licensing carry without comment....
Regards,
The folks at CLE were really good about the CS45 in the big suitcase....
Luggage handling and the rent-a-car agency at DFW was a PITA (no carts).
Coming back though, two problems.
The countergal at DFW almost forgot the declaration tag (whee!) and then didn't know where they were when I reminded her. Nice about it, though.
However, when I got home and opened the case, I noticed a TSA "note" in the bag. They'd opened it....
I really don't appreciate that, but between the gun, fifty hollow points, and a bunch of electronic goodies (wall warts for my PDA, Camera, and cellphone), I'm not too surprised.
However, I had packed the ammunition in a "factory" box, secured it with a rubber band, and put a plastic bag around the whole mess just in case something wandered out of the box.
The TSA employee just tossed the ammunition back into the suitcase without "re-assembling" the packaging.... Checking the bag through at another airport may have been a problem due to "loose" ammunition. Wasn't any, but....
Could have been worse.... I took the CS45 'cause it's one that I really don't care about. I'd rather have the insurance money
.Ezekiel doesn't seem to understand the pressurization issue, and I kind of like "arm the passengers", but the proper response likely is to simply let those with the appropriate licensing carry without comment....
Regards,
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It is very trobling to hear that you should be afraid of having an empty mag in your bag." Youll get a nasy letter" Is really inappropriate.
When was the last time you saw someone get assaulted with an empty magazine
When was the last time you saw someone get assaulted with an empty magazine
Robert Hairless
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I remember that about ten or so years ago a great many people pushed hard for "zero tolerance" policies, especially in schools. So then a little kid is suspended because his mommy accidentally packed a sharp utensil with his lunch, another little kid is suspended because he makes believe his fingers are a gun and he goes "Bang, bang," and another little kid is suspended because he kisses a female classmate. And then a lot of people--many of them the same people who wanted "zero tolerance," I think--are upset because the schools aren't using good judgment.
A lot of people wanted mandatory sentences in criminal courts: tough laws and tough penalties. They don't want the courts to use judgment because human judgment is fallible. A lot of people even supported "three strikes and you're out" laws requiring mandatory life sentences for what they considered habitual offenders, and that's what happened. Many people wanted mandatory death sentences for certain crimes. But then a lot of people get upset because some criminals kill anyone who might be a witness, because they don't want that third strike or the mandatory death sentence.
Much of that has come to pass because that's what people wanted. Why be unhappy?
A lot of people wanted mandatory sentences in criminal courts: tough laws and tough penalties. They don't want the courts to use judgment because human judgment is fallible. A lot of people even supported "three strikes and you're out" laws requiring mandatory life sentences for what they considered habitual offenders, and that's what happened. Many people wanted mandatory death sentences for certain crimes. But then a lot of people get upset because some criminals kill anyone who might be a witness, because they don't want that third strike or the mandatory death sentence.
Much of that has come to pass because that's what people wanted. Why be unhappy?
Lone_Gunman
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Yes, we are completely sure magazines are banned.
The TSA bans all gun parts in carry on baggage, though they can be placed in checked baggage.
Here is a link:
http://www.airsafe.com/issues/security/tsalist_Dec2005.pdf
That is a PDF TSA document. The reference is located on page 2, in the third column (on the right) under the section firearms, guns, and ammunition.
The TSA bans all gun parts in carry on baggage, though they can be placed in checked baggage.
Here is a link:
http://www.airsafe.com/issues/security/tsalist_Dec2005.pdf
That is a PDF TSA document. The reference is located on page 2, in the third column (on the right) under the section firearms, guns, and ammunition.
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