Pistol/rifle same cartridge possibles?

[klover]

Looks as if my entire collection might have to start over.
Been thinking of going with .357 in a revolver and a Marlin lever rifle.

I will be passing on .44 mag in that combo until the kitty grows...some years.

I'll pass on the .30 caliber carbine and revolver combo.

An AK or AR pistol is to large for CCW.

500 S&W....no rifle except the Handi rifle.

.45 long Colt is a possible but may be large for CCW.

45/70 a bit large as well.

What other options are there? I'd like to CCW for bikes and hikes. The rifle should be able to do cougar or black bear and dear.

 

[Brian Williams]

I have a Marlin 1894C and a 3" S&W 13,these are my goto guns and would be the 2 I take into the woods with me.

a Ruger Blackhawk would be another good option. and would be more able to handle the loads that a Marlin can. I am not sure my S&W could handle the loads that Lil' Gun can come up with where a Ruger Gp100 or black hawk would have no problem. May be a S&W 586 or 686.

 

[Kurac]

You can go 9mm, S&W, Ruger and I believe Taurus made 9mm revolvers at one time or another. 9mm carbines/rifles come in all shapes and sizes.

10mm is also a possiblity,the rifle part may be a problem but I understand HK made some MP5's in 10mm back in the early 90's

How about .30 carbine, you could get a Ruger Blackhawk and an M1

 

[PO2Hammer]

I've done it in .22lr, .22wmr, .357 magnum, 9mm and .45acp.
Maybe you can tell I'm a big fan of the concept.
Like Brian Williams, I think .357 magnum is the way to go. I prefer single actions (Ruger-Freedom Arms) and Marlins.
It didn't really become all it could be untill I became a handloader.
I brew up loads in magnum brass that give me all the power I want in my Ruger Flat Top and shoot like lasers in my 16" Marlin 1894CP.
I also have an NEF Handi rifle and T/C Encore in .357 as a single shot pistol/rifle combo.

 

[MatthewVanitas]

Nobody's mentioned .41 Mag yet?

Available in a variety of revolvers, and they've done limited runs of Marlin leverguns.

-MV

 

[Stainz]

I like the pairing of my 24" SS Puma 1892, sporting a Marble's Tang Sight, with my wood-stocked 625MG... or my 5.5" SS Redhawk - .45 Colt is just traditional. My 250gr LRNFP/255gr LSWC over 5.3gr Titegroup makes 754/790/950 fps from the MG/RH/Puma. Up it to 6.1gr and you get 850/890/1050 fps... very comfortable in everything. The hot GA Arms 200gr Gold Dot JHP loads make 1123/1210/1424 fps, for 'serious' work. I also have a 4.6" SS BHG Bisley-hammered Vaquero in .45 Colt - paired with that Puma for a 'retro' look.

My latest Ruger - a SS SSM BHG (.32M) would make a neat pair with a so-chambered 1892 Puma... if they would just make one!

Stainz

 

[Hammerdown]

Rifle & Handgun Caliber combo's

Hello
There are some one need's to be careful with while Bargain shopping. one in mind is the older S&W Hand eject chambered in 32-20. The caliber was common to lever guns back in that time frame and often the Early Hand Eject's do NOT have a heat treated cylinder, and require lower pressure rounds. I had a 4th Model that was a heat treated version of this caliber but did Not fire ammunition intended for Rifle as it was designed with higher pressures deemed UN SAFE for Early Hand Eject's. Moving on, Marlin makes a neat combo in the infamous .32 H&R Magnum round to match some revolver's made in the Past, just released by them. They also make them in .38 Special & .357 to match revolvers along with the .44 Magnum. Puma Rifle corp.also makes several offerings in universal caliber's as well. Hammerdown

 

[EddieCoyle]

I already have one combo: An M1 and a .30 Carbine Blackhawk.

Here's the one I'm waiting for to go with my S&W Model 14: Taurus Thunderbolt

 

[Smith & Wesson Man]

500 S&W

H&R is making a barrel for the 500 magnum. I think 357 is a good way to go or 45 long colt.

 

[Ol` Joe]

What other options are there? I'd like to CCW for bikes and hikes. The rifle should be able to do cougar or black bear and dear.

If you plan on shooting deer and bear I`d START will the 44 mag. The others are too small IMHO....... A 480 or 460 would be a nice pair,

I will be passing on .44 mag in that combo until the kitty grows...some years

It will cost more in the end to buy what you need then if you wait to do it later. Beside, you`ll pay about the same for a 44 or 357 in the same model guns.

 

[Leif]

Too bad you're passing on .44mag. Marlin 1894 and S&W 629 Mountain Gun makes a good all around combination, at least for me. It will do the tasks that you want. However, most bear gun choices are going to result in fairly substantial (read: large and heavy) revolvers, which may be unsuitable for CCW.

Aside from the animal tasks (thought it may work for cougar, I honestly don't know), what about a Ruger PC carbine and corresponding Ruger P-series handgun, say both chambered in .40S&W? You can even use the same magazines for both, and both are quite rugged.

 

[bowfin]

I second the .41 Magnum suggestion.

 

[svtruth]

I like the idea

I'm looking for a lever gun in 44 Mag. Buffalo Bore's website claims Marlins don't have a fast enough twist to stabilize a heavy (>270 grain) bullet. Can anyone offer a comment?

 

[ChristopherG]

I've got both, and like 'em both--that is, the .357 and .41 pairs.

In .357:
Marlin 1894c (w/Lyman receiver aperature sight; recoil pad entirely for added length of pull)
S&W 66 (4", w/Millet rear sight & SDM fiber optic front)
Ruger Blackhawk (6.5")

In .41:
Marlin 1894fg (w/Williams receiver aperature sight & firesight front fiber optic--highly recommended with an aperature sight! Recoil pad on this one actually helps with heavy-load recoil)
S&W 657 (6", sights identical to the 66)
Ruger/Accusport Bisley Blackhawk (5.5")

I'd go with the .357 if I had to choose one, for flexibility and abundant reloading supplies (You do reload, don't you? You really should to sqeeze all the fun and function you can from such a pair). With Lil' gun, I can push a 170 grain Gold Dot soft point 2,000 fps from the rifle with under 2" accuracy at 100 yards. Good enough for any deer or black bear I'm likely to trip across, if I make the right shot (though, having the .41, I'd use a 250 gr. Cast bullet as my first choice for hunting).

.41's on top, .357's on bottom. Throw in the pocket gun (340pd), and you can cover an awful lot of bases in one ubiquitous, accurate, easy-to-load caliber.

 

[KaceCoyote]

Plenty of .410 shotguns, and now Taurus has a .410/.45lc revolver. Marlin made a really nice .410 leveraction for awhile.

 

[unspellable]

rifle revolver combo

Not so well known as such, and it's a wildcat, but the 357-44 Bain & Davis is one of the best combo cartridges around. In a revolver it will out perfrom a 357 Maximum. In a rifle the gap is even wider. With a bottle necked case it has the powder room to shine in a rifle. It enjoys about as big an improvement in the rifle over the revolver as any revovler cartridge you can name.

At present I have the revolver, rifle is still in the planning stage. I had been thinking of a Winchester 94 but the recent demise of the Winchester plant sends the project back to the drawing board.

 

[Stainz]

For a bit more "Oomph!", how about a Ruger Alaskan in .454 Casull - and a 20" SS Puma M1892 in the same caliber. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to have a standard 7.5" SRH in .454 Casull. Mine was more like a 'hand held rifle' anyway. My pusher had one of the SS .454 Puma's for $409... he still has a similar sized one in .44 Magnum. Tempting... my old 629MG would have been ideal... my new regular 4" 629 would just have to suffice.

Another choice... that relatively recent Marlin .32 H&RM carbine and a good old seven shooter that will also shoot .32 H&RM's, albeit swelling their cases to the point that they aren't reloadable; an 1895 Nagant revolver. How's that for period... An 1894/95 designed carbine and revolver - and a 1984-era cartridge. Groundhogs - and wayward Stalin-detractors - beware!

Stainz

 

[grimjaw]

The hunting requirement you stipulated makes me say nothing less than .44 Magnum. You can probably find a revolver in that caliber that's small enough to reasonably conceal; loaded with .44 Special it shouldn't be a beast to shoot.

jmm

 

[Myself]

The 454 puma has been mentioned, but there is also a 480 puma if you want plenty of kick and a little less bite. I would pair it with a redhawk. Should take care of anything you run into.

 

[VPJack]

Seems that everyone has missed one of the original pistol/rifle combo calibers. The 44WCF generally known as the 44-40 today. Both rifles and pistols in this cal. are easily found. While not as powerful as the 44 mag, you could do worse. Of course my combo is in .357, and the pistol is a Ruger SA. As has been stated earlier this pistol is strong enough to handle any load you can find in any reloading manual, usually with the wording of "for use in rifle, T/C Contender or Ruger SA only"

Jack (just my 2 cents and worth every penny)

 

[borrowedtime69]

another chioce...

maybe the Ruger Deerfield .44 Mag semi-auto rifle and a Taurus ultralite 4" barrel .44 mag revolver DA/SA. whattya think? -Eric

 

[lamazza]

9mm handguns a plenty + MP5(I wish)

 

[Biggfoot44]

Rifle / Pistol combo's

Have more combo's than like to think about. BUT , to be somewhat of a wet blanket, you need to prioritize a little bit here. AND even in same cal, expect to use different loads for CCW and optimal hunting. Starting from the top end, a .44 mag rifle is a good enough rifle ctg that it has a following even with people w/o matching pistol. It can be carried concealed, but takes more thought and effort than "average" users are inclined. Medium frame .357s are popular carry guns, but in rifles takes maxium handloads to be controversial for Deer. .38-40 and .44-40 are just as good as ever were, but if your not otherwise "into" them, you could do just as well with .44 mag, strong .45LC. Blackhawks are great field guns , but are a bit outside the usual CCW envelope.
My personal off the wall insperation sitting here is (recently discontinued) Tarus 450 UL 2" 5 shot .45LC, and 24" Win 94 in same. Obviously with intirely different ammo.
If I had to use same load in both, I'd either have to convince myself that .357 silvertip from rifle was ok for deer, or that 5" M629 (either Silvertip or CCI SB) was concealable.
As an aside , if you ever stumble accross a .41 Marlin, just buy it.

 

[BigG]

I think the idea has much more allure than usually pans out in practice. A decent rifle catridge, other than 44 mag, is too much for a handgun and a decent handgun catridge is only a punkin ball in a shoulder arm.

If you're going to carry a long arm, have it in a long arm caliber. JMTC

 

[unspellable]

Rifles for 45 Colt?

So long as we are on the subject, what, where, and when was the first rifle chambered for 45 Colt?