Plans change but this could be great!

[Hunter 08]

Yesterday, found out that a PSA AR10 is on sale, showed my wife and she automatically said yes and that we can order one this weekend. My original goal for this summer was doing a Savage 110 .308 with an MDT chassis. Price without optic would've been north of $1400. My wife was fine with it, but after I showed her the AR10, she was very responsive with her yes.

Would it be of benefit to call up the FFL that I want to have order it for me now and just wait for it to come in, rather than drive 2 hours there twice to order and pick up with the NICS check? Last time I bought a rifle, they had it in stock and just did my E-4473 form that day and was out within an hour. This would be the first time I would have a place order up a rifle for me. So I'm not familiar with the procedure vs one in stock.

 

[gotboostvr]

Yesterday, found out that a PSA AR10 is on sale, showed my wife and she automatically said yes and that we can order one this weekend. My original goal for this summer was doing a Savage 110 .308 with an MDT chassis. Price without optic would've been north of $1400. My wife was fine with it, but after I showed her the AR10, she was very responsive with her yes.

Would it be of benefit to call up the FFL that I want to have order it for me now and just wait for it to come in, rather than drive 2 hours there twice to order and pick up with the NICS check? Last time I bought a rifle, they had it in stock and just did my E-4473 form that day and was out within an hour. This would be the first time I would have a place order up a rifle for me. So I'm not familiar with the procedure vs one in stock.

Just order it off their website and have it delivered to your FFL.

Or order the upper you want to your house and the lower if your choosing to your FFL (it's sometimes cheaper, and you can get the exact combo you want if it's not offered as a complete rifle).

 

[Hunter 08]

Just order it off their website and have it delivered to your FFL.

Or order the upper you want to your house and the lower if your choosing to your FFL (it's sometimes cheaper, and you can get the exact combo you want if it's not offered as a complete rifle).

I ordered the complete rifle and put the FFL down that I wanted. Evidently, not every FFL deals with PSA. Scheels I guess doesn't have an insurance thing on them so they won't take in transfers. So I chose a smaller dealer that's much closer the Cabelas to me and their FFL fee is much cheaper.

 

[drobs]

I ordered the complete rifle and put the FFL down that I wanted. Evidently, not every FFL deals with PSA. Scheels I guess doesn't have an insurance thing on them so they won't take in transfers. So I chose a smaller dealer that's much closer the Cabelas to me and their FFL fee is much cheaper.

Does the smaller FFL have their license on file with PSA? You should contact that FFL and let them know that you have a rifle coming their way.

 

[Hunter 08]

Does the smaller FFL have their license on file with PSA? You should contact that FFL and let them know that you have a rifle coming their way.

They did. PSA had them on file. I had called the FFL ahead of time to ask them about how much the transfer would be and if they dealt with them. They said yes. I wasn't going to waste my time ordering the rifle and having it sent to that one if they didn't do business with them.

After I got the confirmation email from PSA, in there it said to contact the FFL and give them a heads up. So they know to look out for a PSA rifle. They didn't need any information from me as evidently it's all in the shipping info once they get it in. Also did ask about how long it usually takes to get stuff ordered from PSA. Since they are just a retailer, they don't get any tracking information. But I've heard anywhere from 5 to 9 days or so and they take about a day from order to box it up to ship it out.

This is the first time I've done it this way. Depending how this goes, may do it this way in the future. If not, I'll only do store purchases.

 

[Hunter 08]

It was a bit of a pain to use their FFL locator though. Had to put in the zip code for the county that the FFL that I wanted to use, because barely anywhere showing up on their map. Granted the wifi at my work sucks so, it could've been that. Either way, just playing the waiting game. Should go by smoothly.

 

[drobs]

I had to go take a peak. I'm tempted by the 16 inch nitride barrel one.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...tride-15-lightweight-m-lok-moe-ept-rifle.html

 

[Hunter 08]

I had to go take a peak. I'm tempted by the 16 inch nitride barrel one.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...tride-15-lightweight-m-lok-moe-ept-rifle.html

That could be decent. For me it was either go 20 or 18 inch. If nothing more to reduce excessive blast from the muzzle. I've heard some complain that this rifle does beat up their shoulder, which is weird to me, since most semi autos seem to absorb recoil pretty well unlike bolt guns. Can anyone attest to that?

 

[BushMaster-15]

That could be decent. For me it was either go 20 or 18 inch. If nothing more to reduce excessive blast from the muzzle. I've heard some complain that this rifle does beat up their shoulder, which is weird to me, since most semi autos seem to absorb recoil pretty well unlike bolt guns. Can anyone attest to that?

I'll assume we're talking .308 caliber ?. Never shot a semi or full auto that beat up MY shoulder ,muzzle blast is what it is . The shorter the barrel less powder is fully burnt ,so MORE muzzle flash and it's gonna make noise .

I have a couple of PSA Rifles and their GOOD shooters ,NOT great but full functioning and with GOOD handloads behave themselves generally 1.35"- 0.820 " pretty consistently . I've built a few higher $$$$ models and they do a bit better 1.20" - 0.435" and two which drive in the 0.380" range with Hand loads . Those are frankenbuilds with 5R custom barrels and quality lowers .

 

[courtgreene]

I’ve used them. I almost always buy guns online using ffl transfers. It was pretty much required during the pandemic panic and shortages. It sucks to eat the $25 or so, but to get what you want it makes sense to shop the whole world instead of one or two stores. I still look at stores though, because sometimes one gets lucky.

 

[Hunter 08]

I'll assume we're talking .308 caliber ?. Never shot a semi or full auto that beat up MY shoulder ,muzzle blast is what it is . The shorter the barrel less powder is fully burnt ,so MORE muzzle flash and it's gonna make noise .

I have a couple of PSA Rifles and their GOOD shooters ,NOT great but full functioning and with GOOD handloads behave themselves generally 1.35"- 0.820 " pretty consistently . I've built a few higher $$$$ models and they do a bit better 1.20" - 0.435" and two which drive in the 0.380" range with Hand loads . Those are frankenbuilds with 5R custom barrels and quality lowers .

Yeah talking .308. It just was one of those things people seem to complain about, lot of recoil with it. Seemed to be a bit contradictory to me. Muzzle blast is why I wouldnt want to go any shorter than 18.

 

[drobs]

I had a 16 inch FAL that had a sideways venting muzzle brake on it. That thing was LOUD!
18 inches would probably be the way to go.

I wish PSA would list the weight of the gun. These are tempting but the AR10 I'm interested in is the lightweight 6.8lb Ruger SFAR.
https://ruger.com/products/sfar/specSheets/5610.html

I have a Dead Air Nomad-L suppressor that would work nicely on there.

 

[Hunter 08]

I had a 16 inch FAL that had a sideways venting muzzle brake on it. That thing was LOUD!
18 inches would probably be the way to go.

I wish PSA would list the weight of the gun. These are tempting but the AR10 I'm interested in is the lightweight 6.8lb Ruger SFAR.
https://ruger.com/products/sfar/specSheets/5610.html

I have a Dead Air Nomad-L suppressor that would work nicely on there.

8.2lbs or there abouts is what some have commented in the FAQ section. So not bad for being an 18" .308 rifle. If I kit this out the way I want to I'll be at 10.6lbs. Not great but not terrible.

 

[BushMaster-15]

I had a 16 inch FAL that had a sideways venting muzzle brake on it. That thing was LOUD!
18 inches would probably be the way to go.

I wish PSA would list the weight of the gun. These are tempting but the AR10 I'm interested in is the lightweight 6.8lb Ruger SFAR.
https://ruger.com/products/sfar/specSheets/5610.html

I have a Dead Air Nomad-L suppressor that would work nicely on there.

" Most " AR10 platforms with any decent track record are gonna weigh in around 8.5 lb. with 18" barrels ,20" barrels are gonna put you in the 9 + lb. category . IMO between 9.4-10 lb. for a Decent heavier contour barrel is about right . Fyi ; Pencil barrels SUCK on the 10 platforms ,groups deteriorate horribly after #8 -10 rounds . Proof barrel's run $800.00 + carbonfiber hand guard is as light as it's gonna get and prices are near the moon . What's funny is ammo and magazine knocks the crap out of the weight savings ,so is it worth the $$$$'s for 1 lb. or so ,NOT for Me .

My objective is accuracy ,GOOD target acquisition then squeeze , BANG target hit ,move on repeat . Whether Range shooting or Hunting ONLY an accurate Rifle will do for ME . Life's to short for , well should of , could of but didn't .

PSA G3 is 8.4 lb. Aero M5E1 AR-10 18" is around 8.4-8.6 lb. (DD5 V5 18" 8.6 lb.

POF ; Calibers: .308 Win, 6.5 Creedmoor
Barrel Length: 16.5 or 18.5 inches
Weight: 6.8 pounds (16-inch barrel)

 

[Hunter 08]

Carbon fiber wrapped stainless steel inserts just don't seem to be all that impressive to me. Sure they can save weight, but for more than triple the cost of a standard barrel, I don't see the appeal of shelling out that kind of money.

 

[Hunter 08]

Been looking at optics lately for this. Looked at a Vortex Diamondback 4-12x40mm with an MOA/BDC reticle. Anyone run this optic before? It has capped turrets...apparently some prefer those over exposed turrets even the locking ones.

 

[Hunter 08]

Did find out today, PSA is expanding the Sabre line. They will be coming out with two versions of their rendition of a KAC M110 in .308 and 6.5 Creedmoor. No idea when it will be released, but I did find it to be interesting. https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...k-magpul-bi-pod-3-mags-and-sabre-bag-fde.html

 

[MrShooter]

That could be decent. For me it was either go 20 or 18 inch. If nothing more to reduce excessive blast from the muzzle. I've heard some complain that this rifle does beat up their shoulder, which is weird to me, since most semi autos seem to absorb recoil pretty well unlike bolt guns. Can anyone attest to that?

I have a PSA AR10 in 308 but with a 20" barrel. Between the weight and the rifle length gas system it doesn't recoil any more than my light 16" M&P15 in 5.56. Way lighter than a 12ga.

 

[illinoisburt]

@Hunter 08 -- Any pics of the final results?

 

[Hunter 08]

@Hunter 08 -- Any pics of the final results?

I'll try to take some tomorrow. It's not 100% to how it will be, haven't even put a single round through it yet. Did get a Plano locking case with the extra foam padding that you can outline and remove to have the rifle secured. If it were an A2 configured with a 20" or longer barrel, it would not fit in the case. Even with an 18" barrel and the stock fully collapsed, there isn't much room. Still need to get a bipod for it, but that would have to be left loose in the case.

 

[Necessary_Nutrient]

Been looking at optics lately for this. Looked at a Vortex Diamondback 4-12x40mm with an MOA/BDC reticle. Anyone run this optic before? It has capped turrets...apparently some prefer those over exposed turrets even the locking ones.

I don’t think the diamondbacks are that great, returned a tactical in 1.75-5 and 4-16 but did keep a 2-7 rig fire that I really like. I have plenty of vipers and a Ranger that are great.

As far as recoil is concerned, I think the 18” PSA with a 14 oz scope kicks significantly harder than even my lightest 5.56 rifles. It should with over twice the ME

 

[Mike J]

Not PSA but a friend has an AR-10 he put together with a 20" barrel. It is the only AR-10 I have gotten to shoot. I think he used a BCA upper & a Aero lower. Recoil was not noticeable to me. If you are used to shooting bolt actions I doubt recoil will be an issue for you. Of course recoil is subjective & everyone perceives it differently.

 

[Hunter 08]

I don’t think the diamondbacks are that great, returned a tactical in 1.75-5 and 4-16 but did keep a 2-7 rig fire that I really like. I have plenty of vipers and a Ranger that are great.

As far as recoil is concerned, I think the 18” PSA with a 14 oz scope kicks significantly harder than even my lightest 5.56 rifles. It should with over twice the ME

Unfortunately I'm not made out of that much money to get into the Strike Eagle or Viper lines. And my options were quite limited at Scheels. Would've preferred getting into a 30mm tube, but they only had the upper end Vortex optics in that. Did think about trying a newer generation Bushnell, but wanted to give Vortex a go. So I did go with that Diamondback 4-12x40mm. Almost think 40mm objectives are a bit too small these days.

 

[Hunter 08]

This is how the rifle is configured currently. May get a different charging handle for it, will have to see how it is when I get to take it out.

 

[Hunter 08]

Well I'm an idiot. Went to Sportsman Warehouse today and got two more magazines for my PA10, another 20 round and a 5 round. Should've read the 5 round package more closely, only said 7.62mm...whereas the 20 round said SR25/M110 compatibility. FYI the dimensions are way different, the 5rd is more or less an AICS pattern not an SR25/M110 pattern that I needed. Well lessons learned.