I think everyone is missing my point and maybe I am missing preachermans point. I have no intent to disrespect anyone, that is not my goal nor do I feel that it should be anyone elses. Again that is why I first asked if this forum is truly privately owned and operated because if that is the owners wishes than I have no problem with preachermans request. But to simply ban, not allow , restrict, or whatever you want to call it, peoples opinions or views on a matter because someone might be offended really goes beyond just trying to keep things civil. In a gun forum I see no reason to even comment or tear down someone elses religion. People will make jokes but big deal. For that reason that this is a gun forum and religion or god has almost no bearing on anything here. For some one to go out of their way and restrict certain types of mostly irrelevant speech because it may offend them seems very unnecessary to me. Of the people here I would think that our rights would mean more us than most everone else in this country or even world. The PC crowd is does everything they can to restrict our gun rights and try to classify anything they can as hate speech to restrict what we say about those right. To me hearing speech control in a place like THR really make me question the reasoning and motives. If this is simply to keep things civil then just say keep things civil and no reasonable person should have a problem with that. Some of you might say that I am easily offended but when it comes to our rights, the only things that allows us to be free and who we are, then yes I am. Especially in a place where our rights should be first and foremost and not be put second to everyones feelings.
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thereisnospoon
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What else are we going to refrain from using?
I find it interesting that we would open this Pandora's Box.
Since I am guilty of using several references to my God, I will refrain in the future from doing so, derogatory or else. However, does that also mean we will begin monitoring for terms such as "tinfoil hat" and "wagon circler" and "short" in any reference. I mention that last one because I am only 5 feet tall and short references really make me feel bad. Can we limit those also?
I am also about 50 lbs overweight and I feel really bad about that, so could we not mention anything about that?
I am also from Alabama and the term "Bubba" even when applied to a firearm butchering is REALLY offensive to me.
See what I mean??? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Oh, well.
I find it interesting that we would open this Pandora's Box.
Since I am guilty of using several references to my God, I will refrain in the future from doing so, derogatory or else. However, does that also mean we will begin monitoring for terms such as "tinfoil hat" and "wagon circler" and "short" in any reference. I mention that last one because I am only 5 feet tall and short references really make me feel bad. Can we limit those also?
I am also about 50 lbs overweight and I feel really bad about that, so could we not mention anything about that?
I am also from Alabama and the term "Bubba" even when applied to a firearm butchering is REALLY offensive to me.
See what I mean??? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Oh, well.
BerettaNut92
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Thereisnospoon,
Instead of arguing minutia, why don't we all just use common sense?
I make Chinese jokes all the time and by and large it doesn't bother people. But let's say there's a large number people here that are offended by it, even if I'm not breaking the rules, it's better if I just cool it.
Again, instead of being a forum lawyer and arguing little technicalities (not saying you are, I'm just too lazy to scroll up and quote someone else, LOL), I think the point here is just don't be a jerk and try to get away with it.
BTW is your sigline from the Brad Paisley song or did that line come from elsewhere?
Instead of arguing minutia, why don't we all just use common sense?
I make Chinese jokes all the time and by and large it doesn't bother people. But let's say there's a large number people here that are offended by it, even if I'm not breaking the rules, it's better if I just cool it.
Again, instead of being a forum lawyer and arguing little technicalities (not saying you are, I'm just too lazy to scroll up and quote someone else, LOL), I think the point here is just don't be a jerk and try to get away with it.
BTW is your sigline from the Brad Paisley song or did that line come from elsewhere?
!) The name The High Road was chosen for a reason. Others I know were considered but that is what was chosen. Part of it, I guess, was the idea that as gun owners we have a level of responsibility that goes beyond merely what we are empowered to do. That might include ignoring offensive comments that could lead to bloodshed. Being considerate of others would certainly seem to fall into that category of increased level of responsibility. It does not mean kow-towing to every kink out there but it does mean viewing others as people. I dont think that is a lot to ask.
2) Preacherman, as pointed out, is a respected and valued member and moderator. If he felt it was important enough to post with a sticky then I would tend to agree with him.
3) This is Oleg's site. Dont like it? Go elsewhere. I can name at least one other site where, e.g. Muslim bashing is encouraged.
2) Preacherman, as pointed out, is a respected and valued member and moderator. If he felt it was important enough to post with a sticky then I would tend to agree with him.
3) This is Oleg's site. Dont like it? Go elsewhere. I can name at least one other site where, e.g. Muslim bashing is encouraged.
<steps up on very small and humble soapbox>
Anyone can search this site if they can type a URL into the Address line of their browser. Anyone includes kids, includes anti-gun nuts, includes people who may be on the fence about guns and/or pro-gunners.
That having been said, we ARE indeed in a public forum and I would think that all of us would want to conduct ourselves in a manner that would lend credibility to our cause (read: behave in public). It benefits everyone here when we choose to act as respectable representatives of this group...a group that believes in the 2nd Ammendment.
<steps off box, sincerely thanking everyone for their time and attention>
Anyone can search this site if they can type a URL into the Address line of their browser. Anyone includes kids, includes anti-gun nuts, includes people who may be on the fence about guns and/or pro-gunners.
That having been said, we ARE indeed in a public forum and I would think that all of us would want to conduct ourselves in a manner that would lend credibility to our cause (read: behave in public). It benefits everyone here when we choose to act as respectable representatives of this group...a group that believes in the 2nd Ammendment.
<steps off box, sincerely thanking everyone for their time and attention>
thereisnospoon
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Brad Paisley is one of my many heros
The line is from the "Mud on the Tires" album, cut 16, "Spagetthi Western Swing"
<Steps up on a very large soapbax-remeber I'm only 5 feet tall>
The "Devil" is often in the details or "minutia" as you put it.
My first two posts on THR attracted attention from moderators and members who warned my inflammitory language would get the thread shut down, and in one instance that I would be booted if I ever said "blah, blah, blah" again (which I NEVER typed, but the MOD infered from my post).
PC to the Max
But hey, since its Oleg's Forum I am trying not to come unglued at the PCness of it all.
<trips and falls off of very tall soap box, dropping firearm resulting in automatic DQ>
The line is from the "Mud on the Tires" album, cut 16, "Spagetthi Western Swing"
<Steps up on a very large soapbax-remeber I'm only 5 feet tall>
The "Devil" is often in the details or "minutia" as you put it.
My first two posts on THR attracted attention from moderators and members who warned my inflammitory language would get the thread shut down, and in one instance that I would be booted if I ever said "blah, blah, blah" again (which I NEVER typed, but the MOD infered from my post).
PC to the Max
But hey, since its Oleg's Forum I am trying not to come unglued at the PCness of it all.
<trips and falls off of very tall soap box, dropping firearm resulting in automatic DQ>
Taurus 66
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I don't know if this particular point has already been made here, so if it has, I apologize for repeating it. Here it goes:
Think of this as Mr. Volk's house. You are a welcomed guest, however, you should be polite and show him respect while here visiting. Any time you visit anyone's home, there's going to be limited free speech. "Free speech is not unlimited". Why should Oleg's house be any different? When in someone else's house, you can't do all the things you could while in your own.
Think of this as Mr. Volk's house. You are a welcomed guest, however, you should be polite and show him respect while here visiting. Any time you visit anyone's home, there's going to be limited free speech. "Free speech is not unlimited". Why should Oleg's house be any different? When in someone else's house, you can't do all the things you could while in your own.
Double Naught Spy
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Similar queries might be had in regard to a sense of self being tied to promoting deities or drawing or their names to give implied supernatural merit to the comments. Personally, I don't see where invoking God's name or the names of any other supernaturals really has a place.
For example, there are currently 179 threads where the quote "God given right" is used. In many of the cases, the quote is used by folks to justify doing something illegal, like carrying concealed where it isn't legal.
So if we are going to limit comments that are negative about supernatural figures, should we also limit comments where folks promote illegal activities because of supposed supernatural justification from those same figures? It may not be a condemnation of the deity formally, but in many cases is definitely a black mark.
thereisnospoon
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Old Fuff wrote:
Yeah well For the record Fried Pies, Cast iron skillets and Sophia Loren ARE firearm related subjects.
And boy did we take some stuff serious in that thread...nothing in vain tho'...we all got along, nobody dropped any skillets, squished any pies, ...err...about Sophia...nevermind.
"Triggers" for a subject almost got banned tho'
Yeah well For the record Fried Pies, Cast iron skillets and Sophia Loren ARE firearm related subjects.
And boy did we take some stuff serious in that thread...nothing in vain tho'...we all got along, nobody dropped any skillets, squished any pies, ...err...about Sophia...nevermind.
"Triggers" for a subject almost got banned tho'
Johnnybgood
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Seems pretty simple to me
Just Show The Same Respect And Consideration To Others That You Would Like Shown To You.
Just Show The Same Respect And Consideration To Others That You Would Like Shown To You.
Typhoon
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Very nicely said, A Cleaner.
That pretty much says it all...
Sindawe
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Well, making joke of other Gods IS a characteristic of one of my Gods, so who am *I* to differ with him on that point?
My point in asking for clarification is that some faiths do not have just on deity, nor are those several deities simply facets of one root Godhead, which seams to be to implied meaning of the use of the word "God" from other religions. This is Oleg's house though, and as a guest I am honor bound to respect his wishes and rules.
Preacherman
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Folks, for gosh sakes, use some common sense! My first post stated quite clearly what was expected. From some of these replies, you'd think we'd entered a theocratic state or something! 
The problem is real, as I'm sure you know: and the solution is equally clear. Treat the views and religious convictions of others with respect, just as you expect your own to be respected, and don't misuse the name of God, however it is expressed, so as not to disrespect those who hold it in (perhaps) higher esteem than you do. Simple enough, no?
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The problem is real, as I'm sure you know: and the solution is equally clear. Treat the views and religious convictions of others with respect, just as you expect your own to be respected, and don't misuse the name of God, however it is expressed, so as not to disrespect those who hold it in (perhaps) higher esteem than you do. Simple enough, no?
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